• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:35
CEST 04:35
KST 11:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Syncronization issues and can't find games [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo)
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group C KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6641 users

[OSL] Ro16 Day 2 - Page 35

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 60 Next
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#681
On July 30 2010 19:55 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:53 prosatan wrote:
Lets see guys what do u think!

Poll: Was this a good game ?

No (75)
 
57%

Yes , watch it! (56)
 
43%

131 total votes

Your vote: Was this a good game ?

(Vote): Yes , watch it!
(Vote): No

for bisu vs leta

lol i wonder how many people read the bottom part before voting

that game wasnt worth watching anyways though

not me!
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#682
That was the single most beautiful game of Starcraft I have seen this year. AMAZING. HUGE props to Flash for pulling this off. Innovative, coldblooded, impenetrable. I know many will hate, but for me one of the best, maybe the best, game of the year. It was ART.


Btw. that the majority votes "NO, dont watch this game" makes me sad T_T. Go play SC2.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#683
On July 30 2010 19:55 Wonders wrote:
Zerg should just take all the expos on Flash's side of the map first. That way, when Flash gets around to taking them himself they're half mined out.

Indeed. Protoss already figured that trick out, since they play vs. mech Terran every game instead of everything third game.
My strategy is to fork people.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#684
On July 30 2010 19:56 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:54 disciple wrote:
Main Object : Defend the zerg waves for 25 minutes (X)
Alternative Objects : Build 100 turrents (X)


Achievement UNLOCKED rofl

hahaha, thats awesome.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#685
any apm figures on that match? was pretty intense to watch
HEY MEYT
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#686
It is time for the Tyrant to show what's he made of!
Flash returns...
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#687
On July 30 2010 19:53 kmdarkmaster wrote:
The last 2 games just proved that Terran is imba. All you need is turtling like hell and win, since your oppenents can't do shit against you.
This style of play is tooooooo disgusting !!


Augh... seriously, guys. Once more, Zero should've tried guardians and queens and later tech switched to muta instead of suiciding a SHIT TON of untis into that defense. Zero had the income so there's no excuse. Flash had quite a few close calls with those spider mines. Had Zero tried broodlings, things may have been different.

This reminds me of the "ZvP is broken and imba" argument when protoss players haven't even implemented the dark archon. Until ALL options are exhausted then and only then will we be able to say X is truly imbalanced.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#688
On July 30 2010 19:57 arbiter_md wrote:
I wonder how many minerals had Flash in bank before taking top right. I think it was more than 5k. He would've won even if he didn't take that base.

you dont need to wonder, there was a resource counter.
and it was near 2500 mineral.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 11:00:38
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#689
On July 30 2010 19:54 ArvickHero wrote:
The Ultras were just a horrible idea lol.. Gaurdians and Lurkers would've made the biggest difference methinks


Lurkers wouldnt even get through the mines. I think the key to the victory for Zerg was bloodwhite terran in mid game. When the game came to late stage, it was clearly end for Zero.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#690
On July 30 2010 19:58 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:55 Sadistx wrote:
On July 30 2010 19:53 Waxangel wrote:
the shit Zero was doing was so incredibly hard and required so much APM

You mean terrible drops without swarm and a-moving hydraling into tank lines?


Yes, he had some bad attacks because it's HARD, and you can't execute well all the time. But he had several good attacks as well.

That first synchronized doom drop + push + swarm blew my mind. Such insane control and timing . . . and then it just got demolished
. . . nevermore
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#691
leta so cute <3
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#692
On July 30 2010 19:53 Waxangel wrote:
the shit Zero was doing was so incredibly hard and required so much APM

Yeah. People who are saying zero should stop running into mines with his units aren't recognizing just how hard it is to macro like he did while consuming/loading up drops/cloning scourges/casting swarm, etc.

In most tvz's that are like this one (terran turtles with mech while slowly taking the map, zerg has the whole map and is trying to stop terran from expanding more), the zerg inevitable runs his units into spider mines. It is damn difficult to avoid running into mines.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#693
I've never seen that many turrets and mines before in mid-game. I think Flash's defense, although boring, was key to being able to win 4 base vs 6.5 base. All the static defense boosted his supply to really something that is almost impossible to engage as a Zerg. Most spider mines are inefficient, but sometimes 1 mine = 2-4 supply of zerg units. Those along with turrets killing all those overlords... Flash had about 300 "supply" worth of attacking power.

I think Zero still had a chance at winning, he was still mining minerals from about 4 of his bases before he GG'd. He might've had enough minerals and depleted gas mining for 1 more big attack.

Overall Zero's engagements with overlord dropping and swarming were some of the most beautiful attacks I've seen in TvZ. Highly recommended game showing superb defense and awesome battles.
ô¿ô
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#694
Zero was so sad after his loss . . . .
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#695
435 t v 455 z
HEY MEYT
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#696
I think Zero should've made lurkers.. Burrowed lurkers under swarm are a complete bitch to kill. (Watch Action vs Flash on Roadrunner).
That, or guardians... mmm..

In all honesty though, Zero's control was amazing. Anybody who's ever played ZvT knows that controlling a 200-food zerg army with a ton of lings is insanely hard.

That was a pretty boring game to watch but Flash held it off really well.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#697
On July 30 2010 19:58 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:55 Sadistx wrote:
On July 30 2010 19:53 Waxangel wrote:
the shit Zero was doing was so incredibly hard and required so much APM

You mean terrible drops without swarm and a-moving hydraling into tank lines?


Yes, he had some bad attacks because it's HARD, and you can't execute well all the time. But he had several good attacks as well.


I wonder if he should have dropped Flash's main where all supplies were. But there were probably 60000000000 turrets in the way. Also, not nearly enough swarms vs mech.

If you see Action play, he has like a 1:2 defiler:ling ratio and swarms a fucking road to your CC and goes for the workers, not for the tanks or turrets.
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#698
On July 30 2010 19:55 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:53 Waxangel wrote:
the shit Zero was doing was so incredibly hard and required so much APM

You mean terrible drops without swarm and a-moving hydraling into tank lines?


Are you trolling? You try controlling 100+ lings while dropping 10 overlords individually (unloading on themselves) and casting 5 swarms like Zero was doing.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#699
On July 30 2010 19:58 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:56 Sadistx wrote:
On July 30 2010 19:54 disciple wrote:
Main Object : Defend the zerg waves for 25 minutes (X)
Alternative Objects : Build 100 turrents (X)


Achievement UNLOCKED rofl

hahaha, thats awesome.


^^
Jaedong :3
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33699 Posts
July 30 2010 11:01 GMT
#700
Only 315 average APM For Zero, he could have used like 100 more if he wanted to win
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 60 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Wild Card
CranKy Ducklings126
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 193
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1669
GuemChi 1289
Britney 0
Dota 2
monkeys_forever433
NeuroSwarm184
LuMiX2
League of Legends
Doublelift3518
JimRising 711
Counter-Strike
taco 430
minikerr26
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1844
C9.Mang0204
Mew2King107
Other Games
summit1g12346
WinterStarcraft348
PiGStarcraft305
XaKoH 153
Livibee138
ViBE122
Maynarde119
ZombieGrub32
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1985
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 97
• davetesta12
• Letter147
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade488
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
8h 26m
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
19h 26m
Replay Cast
21h 26m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.