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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#681
On July 30 2010 19:55 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:53 prosatan wrote:
Lets see guys what do u think!

Poll: Was this a good game ?

No (75)
 
57%

Yes , watch it! (56)
 
43%

131 total votes

Your vote: Was this a good game ?

(Vote): Yes , watch it!
(Vote): No

for bisu vs leta

lol i wonder how many people read the bottom part before voting

that game wasnt worth watching anyways though

not me!
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#682
That was the single most beautiful game of Starcraft I have seen this year. AMAZING. HUGE props to Flash for pulling this off. Innovative, coldblooded, impenetrable. I know many will hate, but for me one of the best, maybe the best, game of the year. It was ART.


Btw. that the majority votes "NO, dont watch this game" makes me sad T_T. Go play SC2.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#683
On July 30 2010 19:55 Wonders wrote:
Zerg should just take all the expos on Flash's side of the map first. That way, when Flash gets around to taking them himself they're half mined out.

Indeed. Protoss already figured that trick out, since they play vs. mech Terran every game instead of everything third game.
My strategy is to fork people.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#684
On July 30 2010 19:56 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:54 disciple wrote:
Main Object : Defend the zerg waves for 25 minutes (X)
Alternative Objects : Build 100 turrents (X)


Achievement UNLOCKED rofl

hahaha, thats awesome.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#685
any apm figures on that match? was pretty intense to watch
HEY MEYT
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
July 30 2010 10:58 GMT
#686
It is time for the Tyrant to show what's he made of!
Flash returns...
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#687
On July 30 2010 19:53 kmdarkmaster wrote:
The last 2 games just proved that Terran is imba. All you need is turtling like hell and win, since your oppenents can't do shit against you.
This style of play is tooooooo disgusting !!


Augh... seriously, guys. Once more, Zero should've tried guardians and queens and later tech switched to muta instead of suiciding a SHIT TON of untis into that defense. Zero had the income so there's no excuse. Flash had quite a few close calls with those spider mines. Had Zero tried broodlings, things may have been different.

This reminds me of the "ZvP is broken and imba" argument when protoss players haven't even implemented the dark archon. Until ALL options are exhausted then and only then will we be able to say X is truly imbalanced.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#688
On July 30 2010 19:57 arbiter_md wrote:
I wonder how many minerals had Flash in bank before taking top right. I think it was more than 5k. He would've won even if he didn't take that base.

you dont need to wonder, there was a resource counter.
and it was near 2500 mineral.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2341 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 11:00:38
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#689
On July 30 2010 19:54 ArvickHero wrote:
The Ultras were just a horrible idea lol.. Gaurdians and Lurkers would've made the biggest difference methinks


Lurkers wouldnt even get through the mines. I think the key to the victory for Zerg was bloodwhite terran in mid game. When the game came to late stage, it was clearly end for Zero.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#690
On July 30 2010 19:58 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:55 Sadistx wrote:
On July 30 2010 19:53 Waxangel wrote:
the shit Zero was doing was so incredibly hard and required so much APM

You mean terrible drops without swarm and a-moving hydraling into tank lines?


Yes, he had some bad attacks because it's HARD, and you can't execute well all the time. But he had several good attacks as well.

That first synchronized doom drop + push + swarm blew my mind. Such insane control and timing . . . and then it just got demolished
. . . nevermore
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#691
leta so cute <3
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
July 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#692
On July 30 2010 19:53 Waxangel wrote:
the shit Zero was doing was so incredibly hard and required so much APM

Yeah. People who are saying zero should stop running into mines with his units aren't recognizing just how hard it is to macro like he did while consuming/loading up drops/cloning scourges/casting swarm, etc.

In most tvz's that are like this one (terran turtles with mech while slowly taking the map, zerg has the whole map and is trying to stop terran from expanding more), the zerg inevitable runs his units into spider mines. It is damn difficult to avoid running into mines.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#693
I've never seen that many turrets and mines before in mid-game. I think Flash's defense, although boring, was key to being able to win 4 base vs 6.5 base. All the static defense boosted his supply to really something that is almost impossible to engage as a Zerg. Most spider mines are inefficient, but sometimes 1 mine = 2-4 supply of zerg units. Those along with turrets killing all those overlords... Flash had about 300 "supply" worth of attacking power.

I think Zero still had a chance at winning, he was still mining minerals from about 4 of his bases before he GG'd. He might've had enough minerals and depleted gas mining for 1 more big attack.

Overall Zero's engagements with overlord dropping and swarming were some of the most beautiful attacks I've seen in TvZ. Highly recommended game showing superb defense and awesome battles.
ô¿ô
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#694
Zero was so sad after his loss . . . .
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#695
435 t v 455 z
HEY MEYT
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#696
I think Zero should've made lurkers.. Burrowed lurkers under swarm are a complete bitch to kill. (Watch Action vs Flash on Roadrunner).
That, or guardians... mmm..

In all honesty though, Zero's control was amazing. Anybody who's ever played ZvT knows that controlling a 200-food zerg army with a ton of lings is insanely hard.

That was a pretty boring game to watch but Flash held it off really well.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#697
On July 30 2010 19:58 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:55 Sadistx wrote:
On July 30 2010 19:53 Waxangel wrote:
the shit Zero was doing was so incredibly hard and required so much APM

You mean terrible drops without swarm and a-moving hydraling into tank lines?


Yes, he had some bad attacks because it's HARD, and you can't execute well all the time. But he had several good attacks as well.


I wonder if he should have dropped Flash's main where all supplies were. But there were probably 60000000000 turrets in the way. Also, not nearly enough swarms vs mech.

If you see Action play, he has like a 1:2 defiler:ling ratio and swarms a fucking road to your CC and goes for the workers, not for the tanks or turrets.
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#698
On July 30 2010 19:55 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:53 Waxangel wrote:
the shit Zero was doing was so incredibly hard and required so much APM

You mean terrible drops without swarm and a-moving hydraling into tank lines?


Are you trolling? You try controlling 100+ lings while dropping 10 overlords individually (unloading on themselves) and casting 5 swarms like Zero was doing.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
July 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#699
On July 30 2010 19:58 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 19:56 Sadistx wrote:
On July 30 2010 19:54 disciple wrote:
Main Object : Defend the zerg waves for 25 minutes (X)
Alternative Objects : Build 100 turrents (X)


Achievement UNLOCKED rofl

hahaha, thats awesome.


^^
Jaedong :3
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33597 Posts
July 30 2010 11:01 GMT
#700
Only 315 average APM For Zero, he could have used like 100 more if he wanted to win
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
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