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On July 30 2010 19:56 nozaro33 wrote:
lol at all the people saying good SC2 is out. unbelievable. Haters going to hate. Seriously have you ever watched Flash's games? it's not like he plays like this every single time
What ? At some point back in 2008 Flash style was so bland and boring that the only excuse Flashs fans could make out of it was 'you dont understand the game and you have no idea how hard this is to do' , I'm referring especially to his fast armory build which he raped a tone of protoss players on Katrina with. It was actually dubbed the Flash build at some point. turtle hard on 3 bases, roll out with 2-1
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Flash's apm 310 438 228
Zero's apm 315 455 202
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interesting chart results....both at almost equal apm..
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On July 30 2010 19:59 QuothTheRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 19:58 Waxangel wrote:On July 30 2010 19:55 Sadistx wrote:On July 30 2010 19:53 Waxangel wrote:the shit Zero was doing was so incredibly hard and required so much APM  You mean terrible drops without swarm and a-moving hydraling into tank lines? Yes, he had some bad attacks because it's HARD, and you can't execute well all the time. But he had several good attacks as well. That first synchronized doom drop + push + swarm blew my mind. Such insane control and timing . . . and then it just got demolished
Have 1000 APM to coordinate attack, Flash lols and watches Tanks rape everything while occasionally queuing up a few more tanks in his Factories.
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On July 30 2010 20:00 JohnColtrane wrote:
435 t v 455 z
those are peaks not average, 310 t v 315 z
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wow only 315 apm are you serious? I expected over 400 from Zero O_o
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He should have switched his attack to the left side. Sure Flash would have been able to take top right easier, but if Zero would have made one of the huge drop attacks on the left after flash moved alot of his army to the top, he could have taken out 2 bases and been close to flash nat.
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Wow Sadistx. Are you serious?
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On July 30 2010 20:01 Kaervek56 wrote:those are peaks not average, 310 t v 315 z
yeah, and where did i say they were average?
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You call mech is not imba. It takes so much effort from the zerg for alomost nothing from the terran player. Zero drops, flanks and swarm at the same time while Flash just watching his army winning: by the way, he was very behind in economy...A drop everywere else was just impossible because of mass turrets and mines (I don't want to calculate how many minerals are spend on turrets this game).
Maybe mech isn't imba, but it is way more difficult for the zerg and the style like in this game is boring and frustrating.
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On July 30 2010 19:58 SkelA wrote:
Zero played preety good but i think everyone knows Ultras are really i mean REALLY bad vs mech.
Muta switch woulda win that if he didnt went utlras when Flash only had tanks and vult in the last 10 min of the game heck even lurks would be awesome with his amazing swarm usage.
No they're not, especially when its so narrow something has to take the hits. And dropped in they're great, they're not always cost effective but nothing is vs. mech and late game Ultras are the easiest and most effective way to exert your economic advantage and replenish your supply. Literally every zerg gets Ultras late game against Mech, from Jaedong to Hyuk, you can't just write them off as terrible.
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On July 30 2010 20:00 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 19:58 Waxangel wrote:On July 30 2010 19:55 Sadistx wrote:On July 30 2010 19:53 Waxangel wrote:the shit Zero was doing was so incredibly hard and required so much APM You mean terrible drops without swarm and a-moving hydraling into tank lines? Yes, he had some bad attacks because it's HARD, and you can't execute well all the time. But he had several good attacks as well. I wonder if he should have dropped Flash's main where all supplies were. But there were probably 60000000000 turrets in the way. Also, not nearly enough swarms vs mech. If you see Action play, he has like a 1:2 defiler:ling ratio and swarms a fucking road to your CC and goes for the workers, not for the tanks or turrets.
Action also makes basically zero Ultralisks. While it's a very refreshing style to watch, it would've got demolished on this map as all the lings would've bottlenecked charging the ridiculously narrow chokes, since there's nowhere to flank from.
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On July 30 2010 20:00 Emon_ wrote:
Zero was so sad after his loss . . . .
Zero is so cute when he sighs... =P
Also, commentators are talking about jaedong? Can anyone translate
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On July 30 2010 19:58 Fenrax wrote:
That was the single most beautiful game of Starcraft I have seen this year. AMAZING. HUGE props to Flash for pulling this off. Innovative, coldblooded, impenetrable. I know many will hate, but for me one of the best, maybe the best, game of the year. It was ART.
Btw. that the majority votes "NO, dont watch this game" makes me sad T_T. Go play SC2.
I honestly don't care how much skill it takes to pull that off personally (and, I would also argue that it takes far more skill for a zerg to counter mech multi-task wise), it's just disgusting that he plays like that. Completely unimaginative, overrated, slugging match.
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Reading DCinside SC forums, apparently Flash made 108 turrets -___-?
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On July 30 2010 19:59 Masheyoon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 19:53 kmdarkmaster wrote:
The last 2 games just proved that Terran is imba. All you need is turtling like hell and win, since your oppenents can't do shit against you.
This style of play is tooooooo disgusting !! Had Zero tried broodlings, things may have been different.
lol, like Kwanro vs Flash?
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On July 30 2010 20:02 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 20:01 Kaervek56 wrote:On July 30 2010 20:00 JohnColtrane wrote:
435 t v 455 z those are peaks not average, 310 t v 315 z yeah, and where did i say they were average?
what's the point in relaying the peak apm? it's not a more accurate judgement of apm since since it takes into account early game spam.
edit: it was also misleading since most people would think that was the average
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On July 30 2010 20:03 Waxangel wrote:
Reading DCinside SC forums, apparently Flash made 108 turrets -___-?
hahahaha achievement UNLOCKED indeed
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i dont beleive the poll even with flash playing the most boring style on earth he played perfect and zero was close to perfect play too. Recommended game for sure
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