[MSL] Round of 16 - Day 2 - Page 39

On July 24 2010 19:01 SuperArc wrote:


Hes still losing a lot of times to carriers.
Snow vs Flash, Movie vs Flash, Jangbi vs Flash (last year)

And this map is very carrier favoured

On July 24 2010 19:04 SuperArc wrote:


Now what is wrong with what I said?

On July 24 2010 19:05 moopie wrote:
lol Violet is still laughing his ass off backstage.


"I gave you all the cheese I had"

On July 24 2010 19:04 SuperArc wrote:


Now what is wrong with what I said?

On July 24 2010 19:07 J1.au wrote:

"Hes still losing a lot of times to carriers." Then you go and pull out as many examples as you can find, which amount to a grand total of three games, one of which was played last year.

On July 24 2010 19:09 SuperArc wrote:


I dont know if you didnt notice, but Flash doesnt lose many TvPs, so three is a damn lot.

On July 24 2010 19:13 moopie wrote:


Probe timing, attempting to delay the rax with the probe, and the gas steal. Plus I'm sure Flash knows exactly what Violet is capable of, and what his best changes are against him. The two of them do eat, sleep and breath Starcraft together.

On July 24 2010 21:46 TwoToneTerran wrote:
nooooooooooo, I'm a fucking uselees.

On July 24 2010 22:33 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Jaedong took an advantageous early position with a ling runby that killed a few probes and stopped Kal's gas mining for quite a bit. From there he got his third up safely and proceeded to contain with lurkers, killing off Kal's wall before being forced back past the bridge (fighting spirit).

From there, Kal did a lot of poking and prodding to kill the contain of Jaedong, but the big move was when he snuck the vast majority of his army out from the six oclock position (He spawned at bottom right, Jaedong at top right, for reference), and proceeded to engage Jaedong's main army with his a few times, essentially coming out ahead in every fight. With this he completely broke the contain Jaedong had on him, rushed to go kill Jaedong's fourth in the top left, and essentially left Jaedong on 3 base vs 3 base (Kal had expanded to six during the battles) and had about a 40 supply advantage on Jaedong.

Jaedong responded by building a base at the 3 o'clock, which was risky as Kal had map control and that was the base in between them. But Kal decided to, instead of attack or contain, to expand to the bottom left main. He sent a control group of units down there to defend it as he just wanted to keep a hold of his advantage at that point.

By then, Jaedong had reached hive with the necessary upgrades (2 carapace I believe, along with the typical adrenal/defiler stuff), and macro'd up an impressive army with the economy off his fourth base. He engaged Kal's army in a closely fought battle that Kal might've won had he had more units in a less passive location. Instead of pulling units away from his expansion (in fear of a defiler + lings guerilla attack, maybe), he just backed all the way up to the bridge outside his natural. It's worth it to note that Kal had not made any reavers for the entire game at this point and had used most of his storms in his retreat. Jaedong did a very well controlled darkswarm push all the way up to Kal's nat, where he destroyed his robo facility. From there Kal didn't have any observer production and, frankly, didn't have the units in his main to defend against lurker crackling and swarm. Jaedong killed Kal's main and proceeded to prod at the bottom left expansion where Kal had created a desperation defense with 2 robos producing reavers. Jaedong made some guardians and that's all she wrote.

Basically it went:

Jaedong takes an advantage with lings, compounds on it with a contain. Kal breaks the contain with a clever loop around, and completely demolishes Jaedong's army in every confrontation. Jaedong holds on and Kal gets defensive and passive. Jaedong macros an army and shows Kal how good Dark Swarm is.