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Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
January 24 2010 06:29 GMT
#801
That map was a little big for mech.
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
January 24 2010 06:30 GMT
#802
4 player destination didn't work out for mech =o
KT_Violet
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
January 24 2010 06:30 GMT
#803
On January 24 2010 15:28 King K. Rool wrote:
Action was pretty smart to fight near the ramp, gols couldn't get a nice arc in even though Skyhigh had so many.

I think his first goli push was very well timed and could've done alot of damage if he commited; Action's mutas hadn't gotten to critical mass yet.



Yup that was stupid of Skyhigh, not to attack the 6 o'clock expansion. Why do you think he backed away?
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 06:32:45
January 24 2010 06:32 GMT
#804
Because he has no tvz sense?

Jokes aside I can only imagine that he thought Action was reinforcing his mutas, and his 5-6 golis and lack of turrets in the main would hurt too much. I might be wrong but I thought he had around a ctrl group of golis there (at Action's third), with basically no damage on them.

Funnily enough he lost anyways.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 24 2010 06:32 GMT
#805
YES EFFORT! SOME POINT FOR MY FPL!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
January 24 2010 06:32 GMT
#806
i realised i had action on my fwl while my team is cj
8==========))
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 24 2010 06:32 GMT
#807
On January 24 2010 15:30 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 15:28 King K. Rool wrote:
Action was pretty smart to fight near the ramp, gols couldn't get a nice arc in even though Skyhigh had so many.

I think his first goli push was very well timed and could've done alot of damage if he commited; Action's mutas hadn't gotten to critical mass yet.



Yup that was stupid of Skyhigh, not to attack the 6 o'clock expansion. Why do you think he backed away?


Choke + Sunken (he didn't know if there was one or more) + a control group of mutas = dead goliath force.
Remember Violet.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
January 24 2010 06:34 GMT
#808
I don't think Action had a ctrl group of mutas, and even if he did alot of them were weak from harassing the main. One sunken (which he would've seen) was there, and I think he could've done alot of damage.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
January 24 2010 06:34 GMT
#809
action went nom nom nom

goliath all gone
......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 24 2010 06:35 GMT
#810
On January 24 2010 15:34 .risingdragoon wrote:
action went nom nom nom

goliath all gone


lol... he's so chubby
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 06:36:41
January 24 2010 06:35 GMT
#811
No, man, that choke is nastier than it looks. Mutas would wreck goliaths trying to push in, especially with sunk support.

The problem was he didn't know how many sunks. He may have been able to break with only one sunk there but he had no way of telling without pushing his goliaths too far forward (as he had no SCVs to check it out). That's one of the problems with mech, really, there's no scan for those early game pushes.

He had no way of knowing if there was more than one sunk, any zerglings (Which would've wrecked the push as well), how many mutas et al. If he pushed it was basically all in, from his viewpoint.
Remember Violet.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 24 2010 06:36 GMT
#812
ooh Effort!!! yay!
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 24 2010 06:36 GMT
#813
On January 24 2010 15:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 15:25 tree.hugger wrote:
Boy, mass +1 armor muta is dumb.


Rofl, no, that's what happens when you're down 8 goliaths because you go for vult harass that isn't devastating.


You think it was because his vulture harass didn't do enough? It certainly could've done more, but it did shut down production at Action's nat, and sniped two or three drones. Seemed to me that it did enough. I'd say that SH just wasn't fast enough at recognizing the mass muta, and didn't really build the turrets he would've needed to fend that attack off.
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saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
January 24 2010 06:37 GMT
#814
Go Action!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 06:39:55
January 24 2010 06:38 GMT
#815
On January 24 2010 15:36 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 15:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 24 2010 15:25 tree.hugger wrote:
Boy, mass +1 armor muta is dumb.


Rofl, no, that's what happens when you're down 8 goliaths because you go for vult harass that isn't devastating.


You think it was because his vulture harass didn't do enough? It certainly could've done more, but it did shut down production at Action's nat, and sniped two or three drones. Seemed to me that it did enough. I'd say that SH just wasn't fast enough at recognizing the mass muta, and didn't really build the turrets he would've needed to fend that attack off.

I meant that second and third round of vultures that got like 3 drones total. You sacrifice a lot of goliaths purely in production time and that many goliaths is really important early game. :>

The first vulture attack was alright. He caught action off guard and stopped a lot of mining. But producing vultures after mutas spawn is kind of silly unless you do a lot of damage as there's no way to prolong a lack of mining.
Remember Violet.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
January 24 2010 06:38 GMT
#816
SET 6 : NEW TORNADO

EFFORT @ 4
ACTION @ 10
( ・´ー・`)
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
January 24 2010 06:38 GMT
#817
Martian vs Alien
LETS DO THIS.
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 24 2010 06:39 GMT
#818
On January 24 2010 15:38 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 15:36 tree.hugger wrote:
On January 24 2010 15:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 24 2010 15:25 tree.hugger wrote:
Boy, mass +1 armor muta is dumb.


Rofl, no, that's what happens when you're down 8 goliaths because you go for vult harass that isn't devastating.


You think it was because his vulture harass didn't do enough? It certainly could've done more, but it did shut down production at Action's nat, and sniped two or three drones. Seemed to me that it did enough. I'd say that SH just wasn't fast enough at recognizing the mass muta, and didn't really build the turrets he would've needed to fend that attack off.

I meant that second and third round of vultures that got like 3 drones total. You sacrifice a lot of goliaths purely in production time and that many goliaths is really important early game. :>

The first vulture attack was alright. He caught action off guard and stopped a lot of mining.


Okay sure, I'd agree with that. But (T)sKyHigh really had three/four turrets, when eight-ten was what he needed to delay for a vessel.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 24 2010 06:39 GMT
#819
Abra vs Action should be good.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 24 2010 06:39 GMT
#820
Hm interesting. We got a gas before pool from Effort... And a uhh.. CHEER FOR NAL_RA!
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