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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 00:14:51
January 25 2010 00:12 GMT
#981
On January 25 2010 06:27 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 18:50 psion0011 wrote:
On January 24 2010 18:19 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Lol. Do you even know how ZvT works?

Maybe explain yourself instead of being a condescending dick?

Stop trolling. 12 Hatch is the standard ZvT BO. Each race works differently.
You said the same thing during the OSL Ro8, what's your goal trying to repeat wrong information?


12 hatch is not the tried and true standard. I mean it's a common build but it's more a case by case scenario.

I don't think 12 hatch is particularly standard on 2 players maps where it's INCREDIBLY easy to cheese. It also shouldn't be standard against upmagic on a new map because you fucking know that mofo is gonna do something crazy.

though to be fair it is pretty standard on four player maps, but upmagic should always be an exception. As someone said before, Upmagic was Flash before Flash was Flash.
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 25 2010 00:30 GMT
#982
On January 25 2010 09:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 06:27 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 24 2010 18:50 psion0011 wrote:
On January 24 2010 18:19 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Lol. Do you even know how ZvT works?

Maybe explain yourself instead of being a condescending dick?

Stop trolling. 12 Hatch is the standard ZvT BO. Each race works differently.
You said the same thing during the OSL Ro8, what's your goal trying to repeat wrong information?


12 hatch is not the tried and true standard. I mean it's a common build but it's more a case by case scenario.

I don't think 12 hatch is particularly standard on 2 players maps where it's INCREDIBLY easy to cheese. It also shouldn't be standard against upmagic on a new map because you fucking know that mofo is gonna do something crazy.

though to be fair it is pretty standard on four player maps, but upmagic should always be an exception. As someone said before, Upmagic was Flash before Flash was Flash.
So, what builds do people do OTHER than 12 hatch? There's 9 pool or 12 pool fast mutalisks, but those don't come up often. 12 hatch is indeed the standard opening in ZvT.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
January 25 2010 00:39 GMT
#983
So apparently 12hatch isn't a standard build because it might get cheesed.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
January 25 2010 00:45 GMT
#984
12 hatch tvz is probably more standard than forge FE PvZ lol
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We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
January 25 2010 02:05 GMT
#985
12 hatch is standard, but i dont know why he would 12 hatch vs UPMAGIC -.-''
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
January 25 2010 07:19 GMT
#986
Noooooooo. Goddamn it, first the MSL fiasco and now this?! Although this is just getting started. C'mon CJ, I wanna see you guys revalidate your title.
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
January 25 2010 07:39 GMT
#987
ESTROOOO!
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 25 2010 07:48 GMT
#988
12 hatch is like rax cc tvp, except obviously better since you arent playing vs a protoss
its a slightly risky econ build that puts you on a level footing with an opponent who plays completely standard.
its a reasonably safe build vs most aggressive things as long as you dont cut too many corners and play/scout properly, but if they do a really strong cheese (forward 2rax or 2gate) you're probably gonna die.
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bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
January 26 2010 04:01 GMT
#989
I'm sorry but set 7 was not SO AWESOME. Please... I'm a very low-key, low-expectation guy but that match did not have much to it.
For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
January 26 2010 04:43 GMT
#990
On January 24 2010 10:30 Kenpachi wrote:
CJ has this. sAviOr is going to all-kill


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