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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
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konadora
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Snausages
United States529 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 10 2010 15:47 AlTheCake wrote: But...science vessels are more expensive than scourge. Science Vessel: 100/225 Scourge: 25/75 for a pair Ultralisk: 200/200 Defiler: 50/150 Lurker: 75/125 If a Science Vessel irradiates and Ultra, Fantasy comes out ahead. If it irradiates a Defiler, he's only behind 25 minerals (probably made up for by the zerglings that get consumed). If it irradiates a Lurker, he's only behind 25 gas. On January 10 2010 15:53 Chen wrote: did Zero have the gas for a guard swap?... Guards are 200 gas each plus you have to wait for greater spire. he seemed pretty light on ultras all game, never saw a group of more than 5 Exactly. If Fantasy saw Guardian tech, it would be no effort to start producing Goliaths, whereas Zero would need to stock a ridiculous amount of Gas, and build a Greater Spire. | ||
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
On January 10 2010 15:46 nebffa wrote: honestly... what kind of games do you people want? flawless play? go watch flash v jaedong.for that, which (might i remind you) is pretty boring for its entertainment value. this game was really fun to watch. It's not that I get a ton of joy watching unorthodox play, like Flying vs Effort for example. This game however was just.......I don't know. I think it's mainly Zero's fault for not adapting. Fantasy's build was cool and all, but the lack of anti air and Zero's not exploiting it really made me rage for some reason lol. Good for the people that enjoyed it, terrible for me. I don't even like Zero or Fantasy, so this doesn't really affect me that much =p | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
will it be in the vod? | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
Oov then scratching his armpit GORILLA STYLE!!! BOXER WITH HIS HAIR DYED!!!! o god, so epic... | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On January 10 2010 15:53 Chen wrote: did Zero have the gas for a guard swap?... Guards are 200 gas each plus you have to wait for greater spire. he seemed pretty light on ultras all game, never saw a group of more than 5 Probably not but better to use that gas on air units instead of ultralisks that die to 12+ upgraded (or upgrading) tanks sitting on the high ground. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On January 10 2010 15:56 DoX.) wrote: oh shit i missed oovs legs. will it be in the vod? I don't think it'll be in Jon747's or nevake's, since theirs end quite early after the end of a game If that's the case, I'll upload it :p | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On January 10 2010 15:56 DoX.) wrote: oh shit i missed oovs legs. will it be in the vod? unfortunately no, it was well after the interviews. btw, what is the standard reaction to mech play? isnt it hydra-muta with swarms? Zero had like 0 upgrades for hydras and mutas right? | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
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Snausages
United States529 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Also I think swarms were quite useless against all those tanks, he should´ve used them to take down expos more efficiently if at all IMO. And mutas would´ve pushed Fantasy back and weakened his army - more gols/rines = less tanks/vults. Pure Vessels can´t handle like 12 mutas, he wouldn´t have even needed to stack the mutas making Irradiate less powerful. But then again I´m just a theorycrafting noob. Fascinating came nonetheless  | ||
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Snausages
United States529 Posts
On January 10 2010 16:02 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Also I think swarms were quite useless against all those tanks, he should´ve used them to take down expos more efficiently if at all IMO. I also noticed that zero already had plague researched but only saw him use it once against a few tanks. He should have plagued fantasy's tanks alot more often if he was going to stick to lings+ultralisks. | ||
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radiumz0rz
United States253 Posts
On January 10 2010 15:45 Ecrilon wrote: iloveoov: Yo Boxer, let's go teach Fantasy some basic army composition and drop defense. Boxer: lol no imma teach him about mass tank vZ best strat. my thoughts exactly. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
haha shouldn't oov be the tank lover | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
His eco was getting weaker and weaker, while fantasy eventually managed to secure his(slowly, but surely) ZerO couldn't fight fantasys huge army directly at the moment, so he opted for counters and drops to try to slow fantasy down until he could amass a ball of his own. He was doing good, but left himself open to fantasys vultures in the meantime | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 10 2010 15:58 Chen wrote: btw, what is the standard reaction to mech play? isnt it hydra-muta with swarms? Zero had like 0 upgrades for hydras and mutas right? This is actually relevant. 3/3 Tanks vs 0/0 Mutalisks. A Muta switch accomplishes almost nothing, because the Mutalisks do almost no damage to the tanks (I could be wrong, but 5 damage a hit, with no bounce damage because the bounce damage values are 3 and 1 and the tank has 4 armor). A guardian switch is even worse, because its more gas intensive, and the morphing Greater Spire gives Fantasy time to prepare. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
If you rewatch, it didn't seem like Zero's economy was good enough to get more than 2-3 ultras at a time = 5-6 mutas at a time. Money spent on a muta switch probably wouldn't have done him any good, because irradiate + 1 round of goliaths will likely clean up that force. If he had waited back for a mass of mutas, it would've given Fantasy time to prepare as well. His aggressive drops COULD have won him the game if he had been able to deny vulture harass a bit better to buy himself time for a better economy. | ||
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