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On November 28 2009 14:15 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:14 Chen wrote:On November 28 2009 14:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 28 2009 14:10 iamho wrote: great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources explain please Ensnare archons, Broodling Templars, Toss has no corsairs to counter and DA's usually arnt fast enough. lol you think it's that easy? Plus, hero had barely enough resources by mid-late game wow I'm not defending his theory I'm explaining why someone else thinks it will work -_- I know he had no mining bases but in theory Queens could be effective if you had the money for them. Stop jumping down my throat ><
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United States12607 Posts
wow even the inbetween-game entertainment is great today
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On November 28 2009 14:16 JWD wrote: wow even the inbetween-game entertainment is great today agreed
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I think Bisu needs to learn from Stork and Free in terms of pvz late game's unit composition. He needs to have more archons and reavers, and less zealots. Zealots die too easily to well placed sunkens, which happened in the last large battle and cows came out on top, because all the zealots died to sunkens. When you have 6 reavers, those sunkens become so useless.
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On November 28 2009 14:13 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:13 baubo wrote: Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.
Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro wouldn't have won him the game. he did end up getting reavers mid-way, same timing as stork
He tried to break down the natural(and later the zerg base at 2) both times without reavers. The first time he failed. But for some inexplicable reason hero had no nydus, so Bisu's reinforcement broke through.
The 2nd time, you saw what an entire army with dozens of storms and archon/zealots did to a lesser zerg army.
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On November 28 2009 14:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:10 iamho wrote: great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources explain please There was a replay in the leaked section, it was claimed that the player was violet vs 815 on god's garden, but I think romad later denied that. Anyways, the map got split and the Zerg just turtled up but the protoss got something like 30 archons /15 dark archons and rolled around crushing everything, the zerg eventually retreated into his last portion of the map and swarmed/lurkered due to the low eco. (both players had the map mined out, something like 6000 minerals for the z, 9000 or so for the P. P just made mass dark archons and slowly mind controlled everything. The only Z unit with a similar role is the queen - it can kill things for no mineral cost. This game it wouldn't make much sense though, the only thing he could kill would be templar/zealots with that).
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LOL SKT fans are fighting between themselves even after bisu won.
great entertainment.
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Flash vs yarnc Spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +yarnc 2 hatch mutals, Flash sunk break and wins. KT 3 -0
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final game incoming Kals PvZ vs Hyuks ZvP
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I did find it odd that Hero didn't put up any Nydus Canals, that may have saved his nat.
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Lord Smugsington looking five times smugger than his usual smug self.
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United States12607 Posts
anyone else think Kal was much better-looking with glasses? Kid looks like a goon without the specs
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On November 28 2009 14:20 Jyvblamo wrote: Lord Smugsington looking five times smugger than his usual smug self. +1
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On November 28 2009 14:20 JWD wrote: anyone else think Kal was much better-looking with glasses? Kid looks like a goon without the specs I agree, he looked much better with his glassses
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please win this kal so we can see fantasy vs calm!!
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CA10824 Posts
On November 28 2009 14:20 JWD wrote: anyone else think Kal was much better-looking with glasses? Kid looks like a goon without the specs lol, probably not the goon you're thinking of but we need a kal face on a dragoon photoshop
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On November 28 2009 14:18 iloahz wrote: I think Bisu needs to learn from Stork and Free in terms of pvz late game's unit composition. He needs to have more archons and reavers, and less zealots. Zealots die too easily to well placed sunkens, which happened in the last large battle and cows came out on top, because all the zealots died to sunkens. When you have 6 reavers, those sunkens become so useless. Zealots actually do really well against sunkens... they just are useless if there is 1 lurker and get destroyed by plague, and are ineffective against cracklings by themselves. Goons/archons are terrible against sunkens, taking full damage.
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