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Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
November 28 2009 05:10 GMT
#421
On November 28 2009 14:09 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2009 14:08 Chen wrote:
On November 28 2009 14:06 Nevuk wrote:
I've never seen Bisu play a lategame pvz, I just realized.

Same here... He always either kills zerg in early/midgame or gets completely raped by an early break. yeah wow thats surprising.

Eh, watch Bisu vs Effort on Bluestorm, or BvJ on Bluestorm/Andromeda.

Thats like 2 out of 100 games. idk maybe i just missed the good ones.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 28 2009 05:10 GMT
#422
On November 28 2009 14:08 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2009 14:06 Nevuk wrote:
I've never seen Bisu play a lategame pvz, I just realized.

Same here... He always either kills zerg in early/midgame or gets completely raped by an early break. yeah wow thats surprising.

His game vs Jaedong on Bluestorm tried to go to lategame, but Bisu honestly just seemed to have a really weak lategame pvz at the time and lost it all. Bisu seemed considerably better this game, better than even Free.
zenkicker
Profile Joined December 2008
257 Posts
November 28 2009 05:10 GMT
#423
Greatest game of the week! Too bad no hydras/lurkers. But great game nonetheless!
I you cant beat them, join them.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
November 28 2009 05:10 GMT
#424
great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
November 28 2009 05:10 GMT
#425
ahh that was just too good, DAs, archons, templar, reavers, zealots all in one beautiful ball of pure havoc
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 28 2009 05:11 GMT
#426
On November 28 2009 14:10 iamho wrote:
great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources


explain please
RIP Aaliyah
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
November 28 2009 05:11 GMT
#427
On November 28 2009 14:08 Roffles wrote:
Wow those cows were ridiculous as fuck, but Bisu played well. Still likes to charge headfirst into those sim cities too much though.


Yeah, I really wish protoss will realize all the resources they put into lots and goons that they lose when breaking simcities... could be much better invested in reavers.... like an extra robotics bay would still be worth the cost compared to how much shit they lose to sunkens.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-28 05:13:00
November 28 2009 05:12 GMT
#428
holy shit nice drone micro, abusing the range

edit: wrong thread lol
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-28 05:13:41
November 28 2009 05:13 GMT
#429
Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.

Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro by Bisu wouldn't have won him the game.
Meh
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
November 28 2009 05:13 GMT
#430
Bisu could have ended it earlier. If only he had utilized the 2 reavers that were just sitting in his nat. But still epic game. Hope it builds up Bisu's confidence in his PvZ.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
November 28 2009 05:13 GMT
#431
On November 28 2009 14:13 baubo wrote:
Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.

Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro wouldn't have won him the game.

he did end up getting reavers mid-way, same timing as stork
POGGERS
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
November 28 2009 05:14 GMT
#432
On November 28 2009 14:13 baubo wrote:
Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.

Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro by Bisu wouldn't have won him the game.

I think it was more that Hero had no bases to do that.
He kept trying to expand but was shut down and Bisu still had resources coming in
Making history not reliving it.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
November 28 2009 05:14 GMT
#433
On November 28 2009 14:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2009 14:10 iamho wrote:
great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources


explain please

Ensnare archons, Broodling Templars, Toss has no corsairs to counter and DA's usually arnt fast enough.
WheelOfTime
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada331 Posts
November 28 2009 05:14 GMT
#434
On November 28 2009 14:13 baubo wrote:
Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.

Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro by Bisu wouldn't have won him the game.


No.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
November 28 2009 05:14 GMT
#435
On November 28 2009 14:13 baubo wrote:
Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.

Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro by Bisu wouldn't have won him the game.


A few lurkers would have changed the outcome of the game but a few reavers would have ended it alot quicker.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
November 28 2009 05:14 GMT
#436
On November 28 2009 14:11 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2009 14:08 Roffles wrote:
Wow those cows were ridiculous as fuck, but Bisu played well. Still likes to charge headfirst into those sim cities too much though.


Yeah, I really wish protoss will realize all the resources they put into lots and goons that they lose when breaking simcities... could be much better invested in reavers.... like an extra robotics bay would still be worth the cost compared to how much shit they lose to sunkens.


How about we don't try to teach Bisu when and how to break simcities... He broke the first one, and with his last break attempt made Hero's army useless due to low hp. Besides, he still running on two expansions versus none at the time...
Brood War is alive and well.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-28 05:15:37
November 28 2009 05:14 GMT
#437
On November 28 2009 14:12 lazz wrote:
holy shit nice drone micro, abusing the range

edit: wrong thread lol


(Z)hero still in game, battling it out, apparently!

Great game, one of the best long PvZs we've seen in a looong time.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
November 28 2009 05:15 GMT
#438
On November 28 2009 14:14 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2009 14:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 28 2009 14:10 iamho wrote:
great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources


explain please

Ensnare archons, Broodling Templars, Toss has no corsairs to counter and DA's usually arnt fast enough.

lol you think it's that easy? Plus, hero had barely enough resources by mid-late game
POGGERS
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
November 28 2009 05:15 GMT
#439
On November 28 2009 14:13 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Bisu could have ended it earlier. If only he had utilized the 2 reavers that were just sitting in his nat. But still epic game. Hope it builds up Bisu's confidence in his PvZ.

Better safe than sorry, i dont think he wanted to risk a base-trade at that point in the game where he had it won.
WheelOfTime
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada331 Posts
November 28 2009 05:15 GMT
#440
On November 28 2009 14:14 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2009 14:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 28 2009 14:10 iamho wrote:
great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources


explain please

Ensnare archons, Broodling Templars, Toss has no corsairs to counter and DA's usually arnt fast enough.


NO. You fail hard.

First of all Bisu had 1 mining base against Hero's 0.

And you can't brood archon/DAs, so DA are free to feedback queens coming from a mile away.
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