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On November 28 2009 14:09 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:08 Chen wrote:On November 28 2009 14:06 Nevuk wrote: I've never seen Bisu play a lategame pvz, I just realized. Same here... He always either kills zerg in early/midgame or gets completely raped by an early break. yeah wow thats surprising. Eh, watch Bisu vs Effort on Bluestorm, or BvJ on Bluestorm/Andromeda. Thats like 2 out of 100 games. idk maybe i just missed the good ones.
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On November 28 2009 14:08 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:06 Nevuk wrote: I've never seen Bisu play a lategame pvz, I just realized. Same here... He always either kills zerg in early/midgame or gets completely raped by an early break. yeah wow thats surprising. His game vs Jaedong on Bluestorm tried to go to lategame, but Bisu honestly just seemed to have a really weak lategame pvz at the time and lost it all. Bisu seemed considerably better this game, better than even Free.
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Greatest game of the week! Too bad no hydras/lurkers. But great game nonetheless!
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great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources
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ahh that was just too good, DAs, archons, templar, reavers, zealots all in one beautiful ball of pure havoc
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On November 28 2009 14:10 iamho wrote: great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources
explain please
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On November 28 2009 14:08 Roffles wrote: Wow those cows were ridiculous as fuck, but Bisu played well. Still likes to charge headfirst into those sim cities too much though.
Yeah, I really wish protoss will realize all the resources they put into lots and goons that they lose when breaking simcities... could be much better invested in reavers.... like an extra robotics bay would still be worth the cost compared to how much shit they lose to sunkens.
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holy shit nice drone micro, abusing the range
edit: wrong thread lol
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Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.
Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro by Bisu wouldn't have won him the game.
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Bisu could have ended it earlier. If only he had utilized the 2 reavers that were just sitting in his nat. But still epic game. Hope it builds up Bisu's confidence in his PvZ.
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konadora
Singapore66071 Posts
On November 28 2009 14:13 baubo wrote: Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.
Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro wouldn't have won him the game. he did end up getting reavers mid-way, same timing as stork
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On November 28 2009 14:13 baubo wrote: Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.
Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro by Bisu wouldn't have won him the game. I think it was more that Hero had no bases to do that. He kept trying to expand but was shut down and Bisu still had resources coming in
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On November 28 2009 14:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:10 iamho wrote: great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources explain please Ensnare archons, Broodling Templars, Toss has no corsairs to counter and DA's usually arnt fast enough.
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On November 28 2009 14:13 baubo wrote: Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.
Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro by Bisu wouldn't have won him the game.
No.
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On November 28 2009 14:13 baubo wrote: Bisu's decision making in this game was really weird. Didn't he watch Stork yesterday? REAVERS are the most imba PvZ unit in the game. Yet he kept on trying to beat turtle zerg without it.
Thankfully hero didn't bother to replenish his sunkens or made a nydus. Or just straight up macro by Bisu wouldn't have won him the game.
A few lurkers would have changed the outcome of the game but a few reavers would have ended it alot quicker.
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On November 28 2009 14:11 lone_hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:08 Roffles wrote: Wow those cows were ridiculous as fuck, but Bisu played well. Still likes to charge headfirst into those sim cities too much though. Yeah, I really wish protoss will realize all the resources they put into lots and goons that they lose when breaking simcities... could be much better invested in reavers.... like an extra robotics bay would still be worth the cost compared to how much shit they lose to sunkens.
How about we don't try to teach Bisu when and how to break simcities... He broke the first one, and with his last break attempt made Hero's army useless due to low hp. Besides, he still running on two expansions versus none at the time...
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On November 28 2009 14:12 lazz wrote: holy shit nice drone micro, abusing the range
edit: wrong thread lol
hero still in game, battling it out, apparently!
Great game, one of the best long PvZs we've seen in a looong time.
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konadora
Singapore66071 Posts
On November 28 2009 14:14 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 28 2009 14:10 iamho wrote: great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources explain please Ensnare archons, Broodling Templars, Toss has no corsairs to counter and DA's usually arnt fast enough. lol you think it's that easy? Plus, hero had barely enough resources by mid-late game
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On November 28 2009 14:13 SHr3DD3r wrote: Bisu could have ended it earlier. If only he had utilized the 2 reavers that were just sitting in his nat. But still epic game. Hope it builds up Bisu's confidence in his PvZ. Better safe than sorry, i dont think he wanted to risk a base-trade at that point in the game where he had it won.
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On November 28 2009 14:14 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 28 2009 14:10 iamho wrote: great game, though i feel like if hero went for queens he would've won. thats pretty much the only way ive seen zergs win super-late games with low resources explain please Ensnare archons, Broodling Templars, Toss has no corsairs to counter and DA's usually arnt fast enough.
NO. You fail hard.
First of all Bisu had 1 mining base against Hero's 0.
And you can't brood archon/DAs, so DA are free to feedback queens coming from a mile away.
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