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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 06:10:57
October 29 2009 06:10 GMT
#201
On October 29 2009 15:10 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2009 15:09 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On October 29 2009 15:07 Chen wrote:
On October 29 2009 15:04 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 29 2009 15:02 Chen wrote:
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part

You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.


you think it's a better idea to let him snipe your templars again and again? He should have gotten muta defense AFTER he saw the mutas of course, not when hyvaa tried to break him with hydras

Arn't you guys really underestimating the cost of sairs? to actually stop a snipe you need at least 5 or 6. thats 500 or 600 gas out the window and basically taking 3-4 HT's out of your army. considering he only lost 3-4 HTs from the mutas (the first time) the only difference would be Jangbi would have 5-6 sairs instead of about 7 speedlots to fight off mass hydras. After his first push got raped the game was already over.

Not making corsairs lost him the game. Shouldn't we try something else? Like, making corsairs? They're the best protoss have to counter mutalisks.


He barely has enough gas sitting on 2 bases.

Are you saying you can't viably make corsairs off 2 gas? -____________-
Jaedong
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 29 2009 06:10 GMT
#202
He made 2 sairs, losing the first one to tap an overlord is why he couldn't mass them.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 06:12:11
October 29 2009 06:10 GMT
#203
Pusan going for a cheese!!

Edit: nvm just early probe scout

EDIT: NVM HE STOLE THE GAS
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mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
October 29 2009 06:11 GMT
#204
ugh sorry ass jangbi better not prevent mind or pusan from advancing, I wanted to see them both advance, but at least pusan is on osl already, so i guess i gotta go with mind,
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
October 29 2009 06:11 GMT
#205
On October 29 2009 15:10 Nevuk wrote:
He made 2 sairs, losing the first one to tap an overlord is why he couldn't mass them.


To make matters worse, Jangbi didn't even manage to kill a single ovie with his 2 corsairs.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
October 29 2009 06:12 GMT
#206
Fast scout for both. Late gas rush from Pusan.
Stuck.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 29 2009 06:12 GMT
#207
On October 29 2009 15:10 Nevuk wrote:
He made 2 sairs, losing the first one to tap an overlord is why he couldn't mass them.

If the zerg keeps going mutas, and you have secured 2 gas, you need to make corsairs. It's common sense.
Jaedong
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 29 2009 06:13 GMT
#208
Is this already the last game?
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
October 29 2009 06:13 GMT
#209
2nd gate going up, zeal and probe try to harass Mind.
Stuck.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 29 2009 06:13 GMT
#210
No, one more to go
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 06:14:10
October 29 2009 06:13 GMT
#211
Actually, had Jangbi managed to take a third and cannoned it up and just turtled on 3 gas, he would've been in good position - he could leave his ht behind his massive cannon field and fairly easily prevent muta sniping. The problem is that with no third he really didn't have the gas for certain things like sairs and enough ht.

edit : Basically I'm saying that he was too aggressive with constantly moving his ball out only to get it sniped.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 29 2009 06:13 GMT
#212
Pusan going 2gate range, a nice choice
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 29 2009 06:14 GMT
#213
On October 29 2009 15:13 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Is this already the last game?

no, winner of this plays Jangbi to advance
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 29 2009 06:14 GMT
#214
Mind bunkered the nat and expanded.
Fan of the Jangbanger
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 29 2009 06:14 GMT
#215
Ok thx.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 29 2009 06:15 GMT
#216
On October 29 2009 15:10 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2009 15:07 Chen wrote:
On October 29 2009 15:04 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 29 2009 15:02 Chen wrote:
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part

You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.


you think it's a better idea to let him snipe your templars again and again? He should have gotten muta defense AFTER he saw the mutas of course, not when hyvaa tried to break him with hydras

Arn't you guys really underestimating the cost of sairs? to actually stop a snipe you need at least 5 or 6. thats 500 or 600 gas out the window and basically taking 3-4 HT's out of your army. considering he only lost 3-4 HTs from the mutas (the first time) the only difference would be Jangbi would have 5-6 sairs instead of about 7 speedlots to fight off mass hydras. After his first push got raped the game was already over.


Sairs give info, kill overlords, allow dt harass. They don't just hold mutas.:0

He could have gone reavers also! like movie :3


That's the confusing thing. Why don't more poeple go reavers? People argue that they don't use them because you have to babysit them but seriously it can't be worse than babysitting a unit that is slow, wait around to recharge energy for storm, has to use lots of micro to get into position and storm, and pretty much dies in one hit from a mutalisk clump.

Seriously reavers are probably the best way to wreck mass clumped hydralisks with yet only Movie seems to like using them (and the fact he's one of the more successful protoss players in this swarm season shows that he's doing something right).
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
October 29 2009 06:15 GMT
#217
That zealot loss is a bit disappointing.
Stuck.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 29 2009 06:15 GMT
#218
Hey, DoctorHelvetica, you're missing the hyvaa>Mind game in your results section.
Jaedong
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 29 2009 06:15 GMT
#219
Mind tried to scout, but he doesnt know that Pusan have only 4 goons.

Pusan expanded and made a robo
Fan of the Jangbanger
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 29 2009 06:16 GMT
#220
And Stork uses Reavers as well.
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