Poll: Who will be the two winners? (Vote): Jangbi and Mind (Vote): Jangbi and hyvaa (Vote): Pusan and Mind (Vote): Pusan and hyvaa
Poll: Who will be the two losers? (Vote): Jangbi and Mind (Vote): Jangbi and hyvaa (Vote): Pusan and Mind (Vote): Pusan and hyvaa
Poll: Who will leave the group? (Vote): Jangbi and Pusan (Vote): Jangbi and Mind (Vote): Jangbi and hyvaa (Vote): Mind and hyvaa (Vote): Pusan and Mind (Vote): Pusan and hyvaa
On October 29 2009 12:32 dukethegold wrote: I am REALLY hoping that Jangbi will pull a victory out of his ass. I don't care if he pulls a Backho. I really want him to get out of this group.
If he fails. Then I will trade him for Rock. I swear.
This I know this isn't PL but JangBi is on my FPL team and I had so much faith in him but so far into the season but he's been playing so poorly. Hoping for JangBi and Mind but I think Pusan might beat JangBi
Strange, I see this group as three players who haven't been playing well vs. a veteran who's come back out of nowhere lately. I'd love to see some good games tonight, regardless.
Pusan still hasnt scouted inside of Jangbi's base. Jangbi with slightly slower Dts, 4 goons from Pusan to 3 from Jangbi, battle but 2 zlots from Jangbi and reinforcements repel
On October 29 2009 14:20 Kinky wrote: Glad I never gave up on him
I'm a jangbi fan, but its pusan, comeon, this guy beasted through prelims and osl, but hes still not there. his games arn't as good as it used to be, so jangbi should be able to beat him, or else it will just be terrible.
On October 29 2009 14:28 WheelOfTime wrote: PVP random M/U?
I mean, Pusan's DTs were FASTER. Yet he lost as a result of that -_-
Pusan didnt get detection. Jangbi blocked his ramp. unless you think Jangbi saw the DTs and could block them while Pusan couldnt i see nothing other than 1 nice play by Jangbi winning him the game. Its not like Pusan got robbed here, Jangbi deserved his win. Pusan did NOTHING that game.
Pusan had the forge coming (I think it was Pusan, forgot the colors), but because he had lost control of the high ground (where his nexus was warping in) he would have been behind even if he had defended his main. He did do a good job of wearing down Jangbi's dragoons before their DTs popped, though.
On October 29 2009 14:34 oBlade wrote: Pusan had the forge coming (I think it was Pusan, forgot the colors), but because he had lost control of the high ground (where his nexus was warping in) he would have been behind even if he had defended his main. He did do a good job of wearing down Jangbi's dragoons before their DTs popped, though.
NO. Jangbi got his forge before the DT's got blocked. Pusan got his after his probes started dying.
On October 29 2009 14:34 oBlade wrote: Pusan had the forge coming (I think it was Pusan, forgot the colors), but because he had lost control of the high ground (where his nexus was warping in) he would have been behind even if he had defended his main. He did do a good job of wearing down Jangbi's dragoons before their DTs popped, though.
NO. Jangbi got his forge before the DT's got blocked. Pusan got his after his probes started dying.
Yeah basically Jangbi expected (and probably confirmed with DT, if not probe), while Pusan ruled out DT and did not see the DT.
I only saw the end of the game, but did how far did Pusan's scouting probe get into Jangbi's main? Jangbi could have known the timing of DTs and hence watch the probe for blurry units, while Pusan was off doing something else.
I only saw the end of the game, but did how far did Pusan's scouting probe get into Jangbi's main? Jangbi could have known the timing of DTs and hence watch the probe for blurry units, while Pusan was off doing something else.
i am not sure whether its skill or luck,who in the earth watch ur scouter moves every step and doing something at the same time?
I only saw the end of the game, but did how far did Pusan's scouting probe get into Jangbi's main? Jangbi could have known the timing of DTs and hence watch the probe for blurry units, while Pusan was off doing something else.
i am not sure whether its skill or luck,who in the earth watch ur scouter moves every step and doing something at the same time?
Knowing the timing of DT, especially if you know the position and you went for the DT as well, so the timing might be easy to guess.
On October 29 2009 14:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: just the fact that mind did such a risky build vs a mediocre zerg tells a lot about his confidence right now
What kind of logic is this? Flash used 14CC not long ago against a mediocre zerg. 14CC says nothing.
On October 29 2009 14:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: just the fact that mind did such a risky build vs a mediocre zerg tells a lot about his confidence right now
Flash 14CCed against Savior, clearly flash has no confidence
On October 29 2009 14:48 Wala.Revolution wrote: 2 archons, 4 zeals and a cannon for 3 drones.
The archons were kinda helpful in keeping Jangbi alive? didnt really use them offensively. storm softens up some Hydras, hyvaa going for a muta tech swap.
He only killed 2 of his own probes. not like that game where he lost off of them. chill. Great storms kill almost all mutas. Decent army size for Janbi, he got flanked bad though.
Jangbi manages to temporarily push back Hyvaa's forces, all but one muta is left because of a storm. Either way though, Jangbi looks like he is going to starve out if he doesn't get an expansion soon.
So Hyvaa floats mutas above Jangbis army, waits a while then decides to snipe the temps while goons are attacking all the while. Temps get sniped them Toss gets rolled.
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part
You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.
you think it's a better idea to let him snipe your templars again and again? He should have gotten muta defense AFTER he saw the mutas of course, not when hyvaa tried to break him with hydras. One DA with maelstorm kosts about as much as 2 templars and 2 goons, which is a fair trade ...
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part
You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.
Firstly, there was a long period after he already held off the hydra break. Secondly, HE LOST THE GAME because he didn't make corsairs or DA. You think it's a good idea to lose?
A dark archon really would've made tons of sense, Hyvaa was replacing his dying mutas. Most zerg don't do that. They just sort of let them die then attack right after, while hyvaa stuck with it.
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part
You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.
you think it's a better idea to let him snipe your templars again and again? He should have gotten muta defense AFTER he saw the mutas of course, not when hyvaa tried to break him with hydras
Arn't you guys really underestimating the cost of sairs? to actually stop a snipe you need at least 5 or 6. thats 500 or 600 gas out the window and basically taking 3-4 HT's out of your army. considering he only lost 3-4 HTs from the mutas (the first time) the only difference would be Jangbi would have 5-6 sairs instead of about 7 speedlots to fight off mass hydras. After his first push got raped the game was already over.
On October 29 2009 15:05 Nevuk wrote: A dark archon really would've made tons of sense, Hyvaa was replacing his dying mutas. Most zerg don't do that. They just sort of let them die then attack right after, while hyvaa stuck with it.
yea Hyvaa actually played quite well, abusing jangbis lack of muta defense and flanking nicely, hell jangbi didnt even get another archon after the first one died
On October 29 2009 15:05 Nevuk wrote: A dark archon really would've made tons of sense, Hyvaa was replacing his dying mutas. Most zerg don't do that. They just sort of let them die then attack right after, while hyvaa stuck with it.
yea Hyvaa actually played quite well, abusing jangbis lack of muta defense and flanking nicely, hell jangbi didnt even get another archon after the first one died
Archons kinda suck balls vs Hydras? and every archon is 2 less HTs that can storm.
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part
You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.
you think it's a better idea to let him snipe your templars again and again? He should have gotten muta defense AFTER he saw the mutas of course, not when hyvaa tried to break him with hydras
Arn't you guys really underestimating the cost of sairs? to actually stop a snipe you need at least 5 or 6. thats 500 or 600 gas out the window and basically taking 3-4 HT's out of your army. considering he only lost 3-4 HTs from the mutas (the first time) the only difference would be Jangbi would have 5-6 sairs instead of about 7 speedlots to fight off mass hydras. After his first push got raped the game was already over.
Not making corsairs lost him the game. Shouldn't we try something else? Like, making corsairs? They're the best protoss have to counter mutalisks.
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part
You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.
you think it's a better idea to let him snipe your templars again and again? He should have gotten muta defense AFTER he saw the mutas of course, not when hyvaa tried to break him with hydras
Arn't you guys really underestimating the cost of sairs? to actually stop a snipe you need at least 5 or 6. thats 500 or 600 gas out the window and basically taking 3-4 HT's out of your army. considering he only lost 3-4 HTs from the mutas (the first time) the only difference would be Jangbi would have 5-6 sairs instead of about 7 speedlots to fight off mass hydras. After his first push got raped the game was already over.
Sairs give info, kill overlords, allow dt harass. They don't just hold mutas.:0
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part
You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.
you think it's a better idea to let him snipe your templars again and again? He should have gotten muta defense AFTER he saw the mutas of course, not when hyvaa tried to break him with hydras
Arn't you guys really underestimating the cost of sairs? to actually stop a snipe you need at least 5 or 6. thats 500 or 600 gas out the window and basically taking 3-4 HT's out of your army. considering he only lost 3-4 HTs from the mutas (the first time) the only difference would be Jangbi would have 5-6 sairs instead of about 7 speedlots to fight off mass hydras. After his first push got raped the game was already over.
Not making corsairs lost him the game. Shouldn't we try something else? Like, making corsairs? They're the best protoss have to counter mutalisks.
On October 29 2009 15:05 Nevuk wrote: A dark archon really would've made tons of sense, Hyvaa was replacing his dying mutas. Most zerg don't do that. They just sort of let them die then attack right after, while hyvaa stuck with it.
yea Hyvaa actually played quite well, abusing jangbis lack of muta defense and flanking nicely, hell jangbi didnt even get another archon after the first one died
Archons kinda suck balls vs Hydras? and every archon is 2 less HTs that can storm.
why do you keep making stupid arguents? Jangbi lost the game due to poor defense against mutas. Plain and Simple.
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part
You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.
you think it's a better idea to let him snipe your templars again and again? He should have gotten muta defense AFTER he saw the mutas of course, not when hyvaa tried to break him with hydras
Arn't you guys really underestimating the cost of sairs? to actually stop a snipe you need at least 5 or 6. thats 500 or 600 gas out the window and basically taking 3-4 HT's out of your army. considering he only lost 3-4 HTs from the mutas (the first time) the only difference would be Jangbi would have 5-6 sairs instead of about 7 speedlots to fight off mass hydras. After his first push got raped the game was already over.
Not making corsairs lost him the game. Shouldn't we try something else? Like, making corsairs? They're the best protoss have to counter mutalisks.
He barely has enough gas sitting on 2 bases.
Are you saying you can't viably make corsairs off 2 gas? -____________-
ugh sorry ass jangbi better not prevent mind or pusan from advancing, I wanted to see them both advance, but at least pusan is on osl already, so i guess i gotta go with mind,
Actually, had Jangbi managed to take a third and cannoned it up and just turtled on 3 gas, he would've been in good position - he could leave his ht behind his massive cannon field and fairly easily prevent muta sniping. The problem is that with no third he really didn't have the gas for certain things like sairs and enough ht.
edit : Basically I'm saying that he was too aggressive with constantly moving his ball out only to get it sniped.
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part
You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.
you think it's a better idea to let him snipe your templars again and again? He should have gotten muta defense AFTER he saw the mutas of course, not when hyvaa tried to break him with hydras
Arn't you guys really underestimating the cost of sairs? to actually stop a snipe you need at least 5 or 6. thats 500 or 600 gas out the window and basically taking 3-4 HT's out of your army. considering he only lost 3-4 HTs from the mutas (the first time) the only difference would be Jangbi would have 5-6 sairs instead of about 7 speedlots to fight off mass hydras. After his first push got raped the game was already over.
Sairs give info, kill overlords, allow dt harass. They don't just hold mutas.:0
He could have gone reavers also! like movie :3
That's the confusing thing. Why don't more poeple go reavers? People argue that they don't use them because you have to babysit them but seriously it can't be worse than babysitting a unit that is slow, wait around to recharge energy for storm, has to use lots of micro to get into position and storm, and pretty much dies in one hit from a mutalisk clump.
Seriously reavers are probably the best way to wreck mass clumped hydralisks with yet only Movie seems to like using them (and the fact he's one of the more successful protoss players in this swarm season shows that he's doing something right).
On October 29 2009 15:05 Nevuk wrote: A dark archon really would've made tons of sense, Hyvaa was replacing his dying mutas. Most zerg don't do that. They just sort of let them die then attack right after, while hyvaa stuck with it.
yea Hyvaa actually played quite well, abusing jangbis lack of muta defense and flanking nicely, hell jangbi didnt even get another archon after the first one died
Archons kinda suck balls vs Hydras? and every archon is 2 less HTs that can storm.
On October 29 2009 15:05 Nevuk wrote: A dark archon really would've made tons of sense, Hyvaa was replacing his dying mutas. Most zerg don't do that. They just sort of let them die then attack right after, while hyvaa stuck with it.
yea Hyvaa actually played quite well, abusing jangbis lack of muta defense and flanking nicely, hell jangbi didnt even get another archon after the first one died
Archons kinda suck balls vs Hydras? and every archon is 2 less HTs that can storm.
Okay, have fun playing ZvP against mutas without archons or corsairs.
On October 29 2009 15:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: no corsairs and no DA was really stupid on jangbis part
You think its a good idea to mass corsairs or DA's against a hydra break? He barely held that off as is.
you think it's a better idea to let him snipe your templars again and again? He should have gotten muta defense AFTER he saw the mutas of course, not when hyvaa tried to break him with hydras
Arn't you guys really underestimating the cost of sairs? to actually stop a snipe you need at least 5 or 6. thats 500 or 600 gas out the window and basically taking 3-4 HT's out of your army. considering he only lost 3-4 HTs from the mutas (the first time) the only difference would be Jangbi would have 5-6 sairs instead of about 7 speedlots to fight off mass hydras. After his first push got raped the game was already over.
Sairs give info, kill overlords, allow dt harass. They don't just hold mutas.:0
He could have gone reavers also! like movie :3
That's the confusing thing. Why don't more poeple go reavers? People argue that they don't use them because you have to babysit them but seriously it can't be worse than babysitting a unit that is slow, wait around to recharge energy for storm, has to use lots of micro to get into position and storm, and pretty much dies in one hit from a mutalisk clump.
Seriously reavers are probably the best way to wreck mass clumped hydralisks with yet only Movie seems to like using them (and the fact he's one of the more successful protoss players in this swarm season shows that he's doing something right).
People tend to not go reavers because it's more gas intensive than zeal/ht. (You need sairs to protect the shuttles). Slow crawling reavers is a different story, but you run into the exact same muta sniping problem, except that reavers are less effective than ht against mutas (can't storm or archon merge).
Attempts another reaver harass, but loses the shuttle to a turret and the reaver to a mine+tank shot, mind is well turtled up and seems content to mass off of 3 bases
I think Pusan needs to start killing buildings instead of leaving them at like 150 HP. He has gotten 1 fact and 0 armories out of those 2 recalls. oh and some turrets.
the pusan strategy: 1) lose a small battle 2) lose a large battle 3) lose shuttle with reaver 4) lose everything in a recall 5) lose another big battle 6) lose half your expansions 7) win anyways
wow pusan's macro is hugeeeeee. he lost that huge army that he recalled to mines, he loses the shuttle and reaver without doing much damage (the 2nd time), he loses that huge goon army trying to break mind but still won wow.
On October 29 2009 15:36 Day[9] wrote: the protoss strategy: 1) lose a small battle 2) lose a large battle 3) lose shuttle with reaver 4) lose everything in a recall 5) lose another big battle 6) lose half your expansions 7) win anyways
On October 29 2009 15:36 Day[9] wrote: the pusan strategy: 1) lose a small battle 2) lose a large battle 3) lose shuttle with reaver 4) lose everything in a recall 5) lose another big battle 6) lose half your expansions 7) win anyways
He lost one. Mind couldn't destroy other two nexuses.
On October 29 2009 15:36 Day[9] wrote: the pusan strategy: 1) lose a small battle 2) lose a large battle 3) lose shuttle with reaver 4) lose everything in a recall 5) lose another big battle 6) lose half your expansions 7) win anyways
On October 29 2009 15:36 Day[9] wrote: the pusan strategy: 1) lose a small battle 2) lose a large battle 3) lose shuttle with reaver 4) lose everything in a recall 5) lose another big battle 6) lose half your expansions 7) win anyways
He lost one. Mind couldn't destroy other two nexuses.
He lost two, Mind managed to kill 6 and bottom right.
On October 29 2009 15:36 Day[9] wrote: the pusan strategy: 1) lose a small battle 2) lose a large battle 3) lose shuttle with reaver 4) lose everything in a recall 5) lose another big battle 6) lose half your expansions 7) win anyways
He lost one. Mind couldn't destroy other two nexuses.
Not to mention he was running 4 bases for some time with 5th started when recalls started.
Pusan played fine, his decision to expand everywhere when he noticed mind was turtling up like that won him the game. Mind wasn't able to shut down the expos because he refused to push or do any drop play. The fail recalls were a symptom of mind's heavy turtling, Pusan read it correctly and reacted appropriately
wow double manner and then gas steal. 1 zlot that got out might make the difference. Pusan is putting his gas down. Jangbi spending some probes to kill manner pylons. Zlot gets a kill. Wow Jangbi has significantly slower cybernetics core.
On October 29 2009 15:36 Day[9] wrote: the pusan strategy: 1) lose a small battle 2) lose a large battle 3) lose shuttle with reaver 4) lose everything in a recall 5) lose another big battle 6) lose half your expansions 7) win anyways
Okay, seriously. If the enemy troops are closing in, why not suicide the reaver and drop it to the left of the minerals and the right of the ramp? Scarab would catch a huge clump of maynarding probes.
On October 29 2009 15:58 Avidkeystamper wrote: Okay, seriously. If the enemy troops are closing in, why not suicide the reaver and drop it to the left of the minerals and the right of the ramp? Scarab would catch a huge clump of maynarding probes.
Yeah seriously, why aren't they playing as if they were perfect machines that can see into the future and make the best decision at every opportunity?
On October 29 2009 15:58 Avidkeystamper wrote: Okay, seriously. If the enemy troops are closing in, why not suicide the reaver and drop it to the left of the minerals and the right of the ramp? Scarab would catch a huge clump of maynarding probes.
Yeah seriously, why aren't they playing as if they were perfect machines that can see into the future and make the best decision at every opportunity?
Seriously, these progamers, jeez.
Stork vs Best series, Game 4. It's happened before, if progamers see the opportunity, they should take it. It's not like it requires godly mechanics.
On October 29 2009 15:58 Avidkeystamper wrote: Okay, seriously. If the enemy troops are closing in, why not suicide the reaver and drop it to the left of the minerals and the right of the ramp? Scarab would catch a huge clump of maynarding probes.
I thought the goons or cannon(?) would probably kill the shuttle before it dropped anything.
On October 29 2009 15:58 Avidkeystamper wrote: Okay, seriously. If the enemy troops are closing in, why not suicide the reaver and drop it to the left of the minerals and the right of the ramp? Scarab would catch a huge clump of maynarding probes.
I thought the goons or cannon(?) would probably kill the shuttle before it dropped anything.
Well, I guess it's an aggression thing. He wouldn't be able to hesitate in charging in.
On October 29 2009 15:58 Avidkeystamper wrote: Okay, seriously. If the enemy troops are closing in, why not suicide the reaver and drop it to the left of the minerals and the right of the ramp? Scarab would catch a huge clump of maynarding probes.
I thought the goons or cannon(?) would probably kill the shuttle before it dropped anything.
Well, I guess it's an aggression thing. He wouldn't be able to hesitate in charging in.
If that shuttle went to the ramps' area, 7 goons would have killed the shuttle in an instant.
On October 29 2009 16:05 Wala.Revolution wrote: Seems a bit too many zealots. He could have send 6-8 back and still kill nexus.
He got around 3 or 4 zealots of Jangbi's as well with that force. If he was ahead it wasn't a bad choice, and I think Pusan was due to the earlier gas.
On October 29 2009 15:58 Avidkeystamper wrote: Okay, seriously. If the enemy troops are closing in, why not suicide the reaver and drop it to the left of the minerals and the right of the ramp? Scarab would catch a huge clump of maynarding probes.
I thought the goons or cannon(?) would probably kill the shuttle before it dropped anything.
Well, I guess it's an aggression thing. He wouldn't be able to hesitate in charging in.
If that shuttle went to the ramps' area, 7 goons would have killed the shuttle in an instant.
Meanwhile stream is still frozen.
Goons were trying to funnel through the ramp to go to the area behind Jangbi's natural.
On October 29 2009 16:12 mog87 wrote: god damm jangbi, I hope he gets put in an all zerg group for what he did last year...and the year before that ugh...
On October 29 2009 16:12 Plutonium wrote: Jangbi was never behind.
He had slower Gas and slower cybernetics core by a HUGE margin. as in Pusan had his core at 3/4 health when Jangbi started his. Thats a huge tech advantage and i think that qualifies as putting Jangbi behind.
On October 29 2009 16:12 Plutonium wrote: Jangbi was never behind.
He had slower Gas and slower cybernetics core by a HUGE margin. as in Pusan had his core at 3/4 health when Jangbi started his. Thats a huge tech advantage and i think that qualifies as putting Jangbi behind.
I don't know, it sounds like jangbi's zealot count came in as an advantage for him, but I didn't watch it so yea.
Now Jangbi and Stork needs to practice assload of PvZ. Hopefully they'll be getting practice from Effort, Calm, or Jaedong. Perhaps team melee vs their Zs so they (Jangbi) can practice protecting templars.
I fell asleep a while into JangBi vs Pusan on Destination and dreamed that the game continued with both JangBi and Pusan fighting and macroing until both had maxed out armies with Arbiters. It turned out then that Pusan had managed to research Miracle, the ultimate spell in the Protoss arsenal (apparently both extremely expensive and extremely difficult -- whatever that means -- to research). Cast by simultaneous command of a Dark Archon and an Arbiter, this spell summoned an extra 200 psi army under Pusan's control and detonated nukes over all of JangBi units (I'm sure it did other things too that I don't remember). The game continued (JangBi somehow recovered) with an elimination race until both players had only one Nexus and one Dragoon left. The Dragoons fired at each other, JangBi's won, and Pusan gg'ed.
So what was the real ending?
(And yeah, this "Miracle" spell would fit right into the imba Protoss tech arsenal.)
On October 29 2009 20:02 okum wrote: I fell asleep a while into JangBi vs Pusan on Destination and dreamed that the game continued with both JangBi and Pusan fighting and macroing until both had maxed out armies with Arbiters. It turned out then that Pusan had managed to research Miracle, the ultimate spell in the Protoss arsenal (apparently both extremely expensive and extremely difficult -- whatever that means -- to research). Cast by simultaneous command of a Dark Archon and an Arbiter, this spell summoned an extra 200 psi army under Pusan's control and detonated nukes over all of JangBi units (I'm sure it did other things too that I don't remember). The game continued (JangBi somehow recovered) with an elimination race until both players had only one Nexus and one Dragoon left. The Dragoons fired at each other, JangBi's won, and Pusan gg'ed.
So what was the real ending?
(And yeah, this "Miracle" spell would fit right into the imba Protoss tech arsenal.)
Yeah, that's pretty much the gist of what happened.
On October 29 2009 16:12 mog87 wrote: god damm jangbi, I hope he gets put in an all zerg group for what he did last year...and the year before that ugh...
What did he do?
Last year: He screwed Free over and made all protoss group with bisu, free and kal, in order to get rid of Bisu,and he ends up getting eliminated and Bisu advances...
The year before: He gayed the hell out of Nada, who looked to be highly capable of winning the MSL with the high level sc he was playing, and then beats stork...and then loses to Suxury...
On October 30 2009 05:29 dekuschrub wrote: it is impossible to be a mind fan..
he fails so hard
14cc vs 9 pool...and he was scouted first...nothing much he can do.
Heartbreak Ridge...Only terrans have hearts and that map is so lame for terrans, but back to the game he got his gas stolen, he played well just not well enough to beat the map this time.
I wouldnt call him a failure..just a bit of bad luck, sucks he didnt qualify for any league. If anything hyvaa got pretty lucky, 9 pool vs 14cc and easy peasy win over jangbi on HBR.
On October 30 2009 05:29 dekuschrub wrote: it is impossible to be a mind fan..
he fails so hard
14cc vs 9 pool...and he was scouted first...nothing much he can do.
Heartbreak Ridge...Only terrans have hearts and that map is so lame for terrans, but back to the game he got his gas stolen, he played well just not well enough to beat the map this time.
I wouldnt call him a failure..just a bit of bad luck, sucks he didnt qualify for any league. If anything hyvaa got pretty lucky, 9 pool vs 14cc and easy peasy win over jangbi on HBR.
losing because of 14cc vs 9pool isn't really bad luck. You're just asking for it.
On October 30 2009 05:29 dekuschrub wrote: it is impossible to be a mind fan..
he fails so hard
14cc vs 9 pool...and he was scouted first...nothing much he can do.
Heartbreak Ridge...Only terrans have hearts and that map is so lame for terrans, but back to the game he got his gas stolen, he played well just not well enough to beat the map this time.
I wouldnt call him a failure..just a bit of bad luck, sucks he didnt qualify for any league. If anything hyvaa got pretty lucky, 9 pool vs 14cc and easy peasy win over jangbi on HBR.
losing because of 14cc vs 9pool isn't really bad luck. You're just asking for it.
4 player map, pretty long distances..and he was scouted first...he was unlucky and it wasnt some farfetched risky play. Literally everything went wrong. But the point I was trying to make is that he didnt really warrant the comment " he fails so hard" as its not like he choked or played stupidly, things just went wrong and that happens.
On October 29 2009 16:12 mog87 wrote: god damm jangbi, I hope he gets put in an all zerg group for what he did last year...and the year before that ugh...
What did he do?
Last year: He screwed Free over and made all protoss group with bisu, free and kal, in order to get rid of Bisu,and he ends up getting eliminated and Bisu advances...
The year before: He gayed the hell out of Nada, who looked to be highly capable of winning the MSL with the high level sc he was playing, and then beats stork...and then loses to Suxury...
The protosses were bound to lose anyways, so who the hell gives that free and jangbi got out. Bisu got out but he got knocked out early. And even if nada somehow beats jangbi, which he nearly did, he still has to beat stork, sorry, no can do for nada. You whine too much.
On October 29 2009 16:12 mog87 wrote: god damm jangbi, I hope he gets put in an all zerg group for what he did last year...and the year before that ugh...
What did he do?
Last year: He screwed Free over and made all protoss group with bisu, free and kal, in order to get rid of Bisu,and he ends up getting eliminated and Bisu advances...
The year before: He gayed the hell out of Nada, who looked to be highly capable of winning the MSL with the high level sc he was playing, and then beats stork...and then loses to Suxury...
The protosses were bound to lose anyways, so who the hell gives that free and jangbi got out. Bisu got out but he got knocked out early. And even if nada somehow beats jangbi, which he nearly did, he still has to beat stork, sorry, no can do for nada. You whine too much.
You asked I replied, lol. And the fans at the selection ceremony were pretty pissed that Jangbi made the group and were yelling for the seeds to save Free and put him in another group. And if Nada could put up a fight like that vs Jangbi at that time, he had just as good of a chance vs stork. Bisu didnt get knocked out early he 2-0d fantasy after getting out of the group and then lost 3-2 to Iris, of course my point was jangbi made that group to eliminate bisu and failed...and on top of it he didnt even make it out of his own group.
I am not certain of my level of whining as compared to the average fan, but atleast Im coherent and somewhat sensible in my assessments.
On October 29 2009 16:12 mog87 wrote: god damm jangbi, I hope he gets put in an all zerg group for what he did last year...and the year before that ugh...
What did he do?
Last year: He screwed Free over and made all protoss group with bisu, free and kal, in order to get rid of Bisu,and he ends up getting eliminated and Bisu advances...
The year before: He gayed the hell out of Nada, who looked to be highly capable of winning the MSL with the high level sc he was playing, and then beats stork...and then loses to Suxury...
The protosses were bound to lose anyways, so who the hell gives that free and jangbi got out. Bisu got out but he got knocked out early. And even if nada somehow beats jangbi, which he nearly did, he still has to beat stork, sorry, no can do for nada. You whine too much.
You asked I replied, lol. And the fans at the selection ceremony were pretty pissed that Jangbi made the group and were yelling for the seeds to save Free and put him in another group. And if Nada could put up a fight like that vs Jangbi at that time, he had just as good of a chance vs stork. Bisu didnt get knocked out early he 2-0d fantasy after getting out of the group and then lost 3-2 to Iris, of course my point was jangbi made that group to eliminate bisu and failed...and on top of it he didnt even make it out of his own group.
I am not certain of my level of whining as compared to the average fan, but atleast Im coherent and somewhat sensible in my assessments.
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