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On October 20 2009 20:53 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Well the venom also comes from the amount of absolute garbage trash talk that gets thrown at Flash whenever he drops a game to anyone. When he turn out huge games with big comebacks, it's a feather in a KT fan's cap, so to say.
The garbage talk comes out after every single game of Flash. Somehow people would be shitting their pants from happiness if it was Fantasy but can never appreciate great games from Flash. Not to mention his great comebacks (just compare Flash vs FBH at Medusa and Jaedong vs jjonga in GOM). Whatever Flash does is lame. I am personally so tired of that crap. People should learn some starcraft before judging him.
I understand that one may not like Flash, but these trolls should get some idea what he actually does, and what makes some people be amazed by his play.
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"Was that suppose to hurt me? People are falling off their seats because Flash made "such great plays" and it was "an epic match". While I agree it was an epic match, Flash really didn't do anything that made me fall off my seat."
I love these kinds of comments. These people's entire appreciation of Starcraft comes from Pimpest Plays 2002 and 2003.
Dude, just watch highlights seriously, on x8 speed with Linkin Park rocking in the background while you pound a couple Red Bulls. That should get you pumped up instead of watching a brilliant TvT. YEAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
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People get understandably upset when their Team does poorly. It's an extra huge bummer when it's a team with such talented players like Khan. Us KT fans have been there, I totally understand the frustration.
You should keep in mind though that Flash can play super aggressive TvT as well:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/12200_fantasy_vs_Flash
FBH loses to Flash in such agonizing fashion because he is one of the only Ts with a strong enough early game to consistently match Flash, but his late game is "only" A-class whereas Flash has what is arguably the best late game of all time. This makes for an exercise in frustration for FBH fans, but it does not seem fair to marginalize Flash's wins. Khan fans, in all honesty, how would you have felt about last night's game if FBH had won?
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On October 21 2009 02:33 Orbifold wrote:People get understandably upset when their Team does poorly. It's an extra huge bummer when it's a team with such talented players like Khan. Us KT fans have been there, I totally understand the frustration. You should keep in mind though that Flash can play super aggressive TvT as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/12200_fantasy_vs_FlashFBH loses to Flash in such agonizing fashion because he is one of the only Ts with a strong enough early game to consistently match Flash, but his late game is "only" A-class whereas Flash has what is arguably the best late game of all time. This makes for an exercise in frustration for FBH fans, but it does not seem fair to marginalize Flash's wins. Khan fans, in all honesty, how would you have felt about last night's game if FBH had won?
As a khan fan i would have felt happy to see fbh win but, flash vs fbh is so entertaining win or lose im still pleased. People will say this game proves Flash's awesome TvT which is does,but we cannot forget how this shows that fbh's TvT is still special as well.
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This thread is more entertaining than the matches were
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What the fuck happened to Jangbi.
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On October 21 2009 05:55 keV. wrote:
What the fuck happened to Jangbi.
I agree, his game was way too horrible...
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Im sorry but just because flash can play a great tactical game doesnt mean I have to enjoy it. Lets face it, flash is boring as hell,nobody said he only wins because he turtles but he does turtle and he is like I said, boring.Granted mostly boring is the best and most solid way to play and many other players are boring, Id even say most of them are. Thats why I enjoyed watching Boxer 100x times than any of today's games, regardless of skill level. And thats why Id rather watch Upmagic play anyday over flash.
DONT HATE !
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On October 21 2009 06:16 EvilSky wrote:
Im sorry but just because flash can play a great tactical game doesnt mean I have to enjoy it. Lets face it, flash is boring as hell,nobody said he only wins because he turtles but he does turtle and he is like I said, boring.Granted mostly boring is the best and most solid way to play and many other players are boring, Id even say most of them are. Thats why I enjoyed watching Boxer 100x times than any of today's games, regardless of skill level. And thats why Id rather watch Upmagic play anyday over flash.
DONT HATE !
There wasn't a single moment in today's game that I thought was boring.
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SIGH
Stork didn't even get to play. Why is January sending garbage like Juni out before Stork? Stork and JangBi are the only two people in KHAN roster capable of winning a game right now, the rest of them look completely out of place. Even Stork/JangBi don't look too awesome this season...
Point is:
Stork = fantasy team captain = 1 point so far. SIGH
Even Iris/Movie has a few points despite losing all their individual games (team win points).
*edit: Stork did fetch 1 point for me (I said 0 before edit) for being in the lineup for this game. -_-;
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On October 21 2009 06:16 EvilSky wrote:
Im sorry but just because flash can play a great tactical game doesnt mean I have to enjoy it. Lets face it, flash is boring as hell,nobody said he only wins because he turtles but he does turtle and he is like I said, boring.Granted mostly boring is the best and most solid way to play and many other players are boring, Id even say most of them are. Thats why I enjoyed watching Boxer 100x times than any of today's games, regardless of skill level. And thats why Id rather watch Upmagic play anyday over flash.
DONT HATE !
Just because flash was playing defensive for most of the game today, you judge his playstyle as being boring?
have you watched his other games when he's NOT playing a top 5 TvTer in the world?
have a look at games 2-4 of the GOMTV finals against iris. It was flash. It was aggressive. and it was rape.
Flash lost the early and midgame today, simply cos FBH played better. no questions. And because of the early deficit, flash had to claw his way back. He did what he had to do to win.
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FINALLY WE GOT a THREE- O
*gloat gloat gloat.*
seems like all top FantasyPL players are Flash+KT bandwagons.
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On October 21 2009 06:16 EvilSky wrote:
Im sorry but just because flash can play a great tactical game doesnt mean I have to enjoy it. Lets face it, flash is boring as hell,nobody said he only wins because he turtles but he does turtle and he is like I said, boring.Granted mostly boring is the best and most solid way to play and many other players are boring, Id even say most of them are. Thats why I enjoyed watching Boxer 100x times than any of today's games, regardless of skill level. And thats why Id rather watch Upmagic play anyday over flash.
DONT HATE !
You're just going to have to accept that different people find different styles 'exciting'.
While watching this match, I was leaning on the edge of my seat, my face unhealthily close to the screen, frantically watching their dropship movements and paying attention to every tank lost, every expansion fought over. It was crazy exciting all the way up until the end, and I didn't know who was going to win until about 30 seconds before FBH typed out.
Flash is just a defensive player in TvT, TvP, and mech TvZ. It's his style, and some of us really like watching him seemingly effortlessly defend against drops, recalls, and breaks when a lesser player would have collapsed.
If you hate it that much, just watch Flash's bio TvZs. Everyone, no matter how much they hate him, has to admit that Flash's bio TvZ is a work of art, and it's not 'turtle' style.
Flash goes with what works, and with a 71% TvT win rate, his defensive style definitely works.
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man, KHAN is just getting pasted over and over
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YAY 3-0 KT!
With a lineup of,  Flash,  Luxury,  Violet, Stats and HoeJJa. They seem like they could win it all. If they would stop sending fOrGG against protoss that would be nice.
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and thats still leaving out 815, firefist and tempest. Somehow KTF is suddenly a deep team.
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Khan seriously needs to get real......I mean stork has the right kinda to be playing wow, but honestly JangBi and FBH are in a huge slump...
This is BAD
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On October 21 2009 09:10 Illusion. wrote:
Khan seriously needs to get real......I mean stork has the right kinda to be playing wow, but honestly JangBi and FBH are in a huge slump...
This is BAD
It's not like FBH played poorly, he probably did better than any other Terran would do against Flash. If Flash hits 72% in TvT I think it's time to start calling it FvT.
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omg what did ga-in do to khan  fuuu
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EPT
