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[SPL] KT Rolster vs Samsung Khan - Page 18

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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
October 20 2009 11:29 GMT
#341
On October 20 2009 18:33 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 18:27 lazz wrote:
nice grammar op

Thanks khan fan LOL

LOL KHAN FAN, wheres your bm now eh?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
October 20 2009 11:30 GMT
#342
On October 20 2009 20:28 myfriendPlank wrote:
ITT: Flash fanboys are mad. XMFD


Oh, I get it, you're a troll.
Remember Violet.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 20 2009 11:31 GMT
#343
On October 20 2009 20:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 20:28 myfriendPlank wrote:
ITT: Flash fanboys are mad. XMFD


Oh, I get it, you're a troll.

thats not trolling

its called butthurt
dats racist
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
October 20 2009 11:33 GMT
#344
On October 20 2009 20:29 iCCup.deL wrote:
LOL yeah OK I much prefer to be entertained with mindless aggression instead of smart, tactical play and great mechanics and game sense. Why don't we all just go watch tower defence on warcraft.

Hey guys look like sushiman found out the secret to TvT alert the proteams all you have to do is turtle and drop. Repeat and you can't lose.

Why the hell are you quoting me for saying things I haven't?

And seriously, you can't say FBH just played with mindless aggression. He attacked in the spots that he could and should.
1000 at least.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-20 11:35:38
October 20 2009 11:34 GMT
#345
Flash was on 5 bases to 6 for a long time, wasn't he (despite equal gas counts)? His 6th was 3 o' clock, which he couldn't mine from most of the time. He also lost most of his early tanks. In that position, getting a quick hold on 3 o' clock and turtling the hell up was the only viable strategy.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 20 2009 11:35 GMT
#346
On October 20 2009 20:33 sushiman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 20:29 iCCup.deL wrote:
LOL yeah OK I much prefer to be entertained with mindless aggression instead of smart, tactical play and great mechanics and game sense. Why don't we all just go watch tower defence on warcraft.

Hey guys look like sushiman found out the secret to TvT alert the proteams all you have to do is turtle and drop. Repeat and you can't lose.

Why the hell are you quoting me for saying things I haven't?

And seriously, you can't say FBH just played with mindless aggression. He attacked in the spots that he could and should.


Obviously not, he lost and FlaSh won so who really attacked in the right place at the right time.

Meant plank, all you whinging KHAN fans sound the same.

Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Tyxiquale
Profile Joined September 2008
Australia424 Posts
October 20 2009 11:35 GMT
#347
On October 20 2009 20:33 sushiman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 20:29 iCCup.deL wrote:
LOL yeah OK I much prefer to be entertained with mindless aggression instead of smart, tactical play and great mechanics and game sense. Why don't we all just go watch tower defence on warcraft.

Hey guys look like sushiman found out the secret to TvT alert the proteams all you have to do is turtle and drop. Repeat and you can't lose.

Why the hell are you quoting me for saying things I haven't?

And seriously, you can't say FBH just played with mindless aggression. He attacked in the spots that he could and should.


I really don't know why people are arguing. At the end of the day, progamers are paid to win games. They are NOT paid to play exciting starcraft.

So get this.

Firebathero lost.
Flash won.

there's nothing to discuss. amen.
Dumb people don't know that they're dumb.
EvilSky
Profile Joined March 2006
Czech Republic548 Posts
October 20 2009 11:36 GMT
#348
Nobody said flash should have played it differently, but its sad to see great aggressive play yet again falling a bit short in the end and passive turtling rewarded, yet again.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
October 20 2009 11:36 GMT
#349
I'll never liquibet Samsung Khan in my life again.
Jesus christ.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
October 20 2009 11:37 GMT
#350
On October 20 2009 20:33 sushiman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 20:29 iCCup.deL wrote:
LOL yeah OK I much prefer to be entertained with mindless aggression instead of smart, tactical play and great mechanics and game sense. Why don't we all just go watch tower defence on warcraft.

Hey guys look like sushiman found out the secret to TvT alert the proteams all you have to do is turtle and drop. Repeat and you can't lose.

Why the hell are you quoting me for saying things I haven't?

And seriously, you can't say FBH just played with mindless aggression. He attacked in the spots that he could and should.


FBH played really well. He's arguably the best Terran out there when it comes to small early Tank line skirmishes (the reason why he had such an enormous lead in the legendary Medusa game).

He attacked the right spots this game but his mistake was simply deeper than anything at that level. He let Flash take the other main/natural which outweighs everything else. FBH is really good at TvT when he's on but Flash is the greatest TvT player of all time, and games like this are a perfect example why.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
October 20 2009 11:38 GMT
#351
FBH would have won against any other terran.
He played a better than nice game... but he should have made nukes :'(
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
October 20 2009 11:39 GMT
#352
On October 20 2009 20:36 EvilSky wrote:
Nobody said flash should have played it differently, but its sad to see great aggressive play yet again falling a bit short in the end and passive turtling rewarded, yet again.


Ugh does nobody seem to understand that when you take the most important base in TvT, you have to go balls out to defend it and the other guy has to attack it? That's all there is to it was he supposed to let FBH take it in the first place so he could be aggressive and try to take it himself (and lose)?

Flash has plenty of excellent TvTs where he's aggressive. You often see him play defensive, especially on a 3 player map, because generally being defensive means you made the right choices in terms of what bases to take (and generally means you win, which Flash virtually always does).

Flash hasn't lost a TvT to a non-specially crafted build (Hiya on Medusa, Iris on Heartbreak in GOM) since Skyhigh, a span of like 20-something games. Let's appreciate his mastery of the matchup and the game.
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
October 20 2009 11:40 GMT
#353
On October 20 2009 20:35 iCCup.deL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 20:33 sushiman wrote:
On October 20 2009 20:29 iCCup.deL wrote:
LOL yeah OK I much prefer to be entertained with mindless aggression instead of smart, tactical play and great mechanics and game sense. Why don't we all just go watch tower defence on warcraft.

Hey guys look like sushiman found out the secret to TvT alert the proteams all you have to do is turtle and drop. Repeat and you can't lose.

Why the hell are you quoting me for saying things I haven't?

And seriously, you can't say FBH just played with mindless aggression. He attacked in the spots that he could and should.


Obviously not, he lost and FlaSh won so who really attacked in the right place at the right time.

Meant plank, all you whinging KHAN fans sound the same.


Flash defended, FBH attacked. FBH needed to take out the 3 o'clock base for the major part of the game, which he tried, and nearly succeeded numerous times. Let's hear an argument as to why he shouldn't attack there.

I'm not a KHAN fan, nor have I rabidly attacked Flash and his playstyle. Whether or not I appreciate watching it is another matter.
It's quite tiresome to listen to all this 'tears of khan-fans yumyumyum blahblahblah' nonsense all the time. Is it some sort of standard for rabid Flash-fans to sound that way?
1000 at least.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
October 20 2009 11:40 GMT
#354
wow khan. 10 games so far and only 1 win
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
October 20 2009 11:42 GMT
#355
Goddamn you Khan. Goddamn you to hell and back.
Chains none
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 20 2009 11:42 GMT
#356
On October 20 2009 20:40 iamho wrote:
wow khan. 10 games so far and only 1 win


and that win came from (P)M18M...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 20 2009 11:42 GMT
#357
FBH did do the right thing (no idea what people are talking about...)

It's just that High Ground + More stockpiled Gas > Low Ground + Fewer Tank Count
dats racist
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 20 2009 11:45 GMT
#358
On October 20 2009 20:40 sushiman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 20:35 iCCup.deL wrote:
On October 20 2009 20:33 sushiman wrote:
On October 20 2009 20:29 iCCup.deL wrote:
LOL yeah OK I much prefer to be entertained with mindless aggression instead of smart, tactical play and great mechanics and game sense. Why don't we all just go watch tower defence on warcraft.

Hey guys look like sushiman found out the secret to TvT alert the proteams all you have to do is turtle and drop. Repeat and you can't lose.

Why the hell are you quoting me for saying things I haven't?

And seriously, you can't say FBH just played with mindless aggression. He attacked in the spots that he could and should.


Obviously not, he lost and FlaSh won so who really attacked in the right place at the right time.

Meant plank, all you whinging KHAN fans sound the same.


Flash defended, FBH attacked. FBH needed to take out the 3 o'clock base for the major part of the game, which he tried, and nearly succeeded numerous times. Let's hear an argument as to why he shouldn't attack there.

I'm not a KHAN fan, nor have I rabidly attacked Flash and his playstyle. Whether or not I appreciate watching it is another matter.
It's quite tiresome to listen to all this 'tears of khan-fans yumyumyum blahblahblah' nonsense all the time. Is it some sort of standard for rabid Flash-fans to sound that way?


I am saying maybe if FBH was a bit less aggressive at times he might not have been in a position where he had to attack that base, and might have had better luck trying to defend it himself. There's usually going to be one defensive player and one aggressor in a match and FlaSh does well to wrestle the defensive stance for himself until it is time to make a move. Maybe if someone stopped to challenge this positionary arm-wrestle they'd take him out of a comfort zone who knows.

So why are you in the live report thread and watching the stream if you don't like watching flash? It makes no sense to do something you know you dislike then come here and complain to everyone who enjoys it for what it is. Of course you are going to get people edgy.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
October 20 2009 11:51 GMT
#359
lol at all the Flash turtle/boring flame whenever he wins like this, it's just like the last Medusa game. Flash fanboys shedding happy tears and Khan/anti-Flash fans trying to take it away from Flash. Both players played extremely well, But Flash's expo and drop decisions gave him the game.
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
October 20 2009 11:53 GMT
#360
Well the venom also comes from the amount of absolute garbage trash talk that gets thrown at Flash whenever he drops a game to anyone. When he turn out huge games with big comebacks, it's a feather in a KT fan's cap, so to say.
Remember Violet.
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