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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On July 03 2009 09:28 arb wrote: And yeah a ssomeone said earlier they do the most DPS in the game which is annoying since like 8 can tear down a base in minutes T_T what | ||
Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
I'm betting that 8 cracklings can tear down a base in minutes if nothing stops them. Lings vs. Zealots is always dependent on positioning. Since the common build nowadays is the 5 Hatch Hydras into Mutas, you won't see lings at all during the midgame. Even in the early late game they're not the best because you're still 1 armor upgrade down against the Protoss's attack. Unless you're EffOrt of course, then you go mutaling and pwn. But to go lings midgame, you need the carapace upgrade. Zerglings then do fairly well against Zealots, and they pwn more after you get crack. | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~edfu/starcraft/Unit stats.jpg +3 Cracklings inflict 1.33 damage per frame. According someone in the to [Q] DPS archive? thread, there are 24 frames per second. A +3 Crackling will inflict 31.92 damage per second, or 1915.2 damage per minute. 8 of them will inflict 15321.6 damage per minute. A Nexus has 750 hitpoints and 750 shields. 8 +3 Cracklings can raze 10 Nexuses in 1 minute. EDIT: A crackling attacking at 4 times per second seems pretty fucking insane. I'm definitely not sure that's true since it's just based on some speculation in two threads. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71243 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=28699 Oh also I didn't account for building armor. But yeah, +3 cracklings inflict mad crazy damage and will kill anything before you know it. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On July 03 2009 11:31 EchOne wrote: According to: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~edfu/starcraft/Unit stats.jpg +3 Cracklings inflict 1.33 damage per frame. According someone in the to [Q] DPS archive? thread, there are 24 frames per second. A +3 Crackling will inflict 31.92 damage per second, or 1915.2 damage per minute. 8 of them will inflict 15321.6 damage per minute. A Nexus has 750 hitpoints and 750 shields. 8 +3 Cracklings can raze 10 Nexuses in 1 minute. EDIT: A crackling attacking at 4 times per second seems pretty fucking insane. I'm definitely not sure that's true since it's just based on some speculation in two threads. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71243 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=28699 Oh also I didn't account for building armor. But yeah, +3 cracklings inflict mad crazy damage and will kill anything before you know it. I dunno cracklings attack ridiculously fast. If it's not 4 times a second then 3 times a second is easily plausible. A drop of 16 cracklings left in a protoss main unhindered renders it to shreds in roughly 2 minutes. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On July 03 2009 10:42 Mystlord wrote: I'm betting that 8 cracklings can tear down a base in minutes if nothing stops them. orly? I thought he meant take out a base as in an expo(nexus and a pylon or two), in which would take place in seconds. I thought he had a typo  | ||
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JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
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sythax
Scotland57 Posts
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Deathfate
Spain555 Posts
1 ling = 3 zealots | ||
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Probe.
United States877 Posts
On July 03 2009 21:59 sythax wrote: what about 1 crackling, 3, 3 versus 1 slowlot, 0 0 ? I have a feeling 2 3-3 cracklings can beat 1slowlot 0-0. I don't think 1 is quite enough. Cracklings are really good though late game vs zeals. And don't even get me started on cracklings with defiler. | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
On July 03 2009 07:48 FaTe)SoL wrote: 1 ling < 1 zealot in all cases XD not in all cases. 1 crackling > 1 Plague'd Zealot haha | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Probe.
United States877 Posts
On July 04 2009 05:01 Nevuk wrote: I'm curious, how much does armor matter against lings? I've recently started to convert into more +1 armor as opposed to +1 attack builds due to the prevalence of mass hydras and early +1 carapace. +1 attack is way better than +1 armor. Armor is only 50% as good for zealots since they have shields too. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On July 04 2009 05:01 Nevuk wrote: I'm curious, how much does armor matter against lings? I've recently started to convert into more +1 armor as opposed to +1 attack builds due to the prevalence of mass hydras and early +1 carapace. If Z does the build right he wont have +1 carapace that early since he will get +1 range attack with his first evolution chamber. On July 04 2009 06:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: in the sc booklet it says that zerglings are the counter for archons lol wtf ^^ | ||
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Probe.
United States877 Posts
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stroggos
New Zealand1543 Posts
On July 04 2009 06:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: in the sc booklet it says that zerglings are the counter for archons lol At first i was like lolwat, but then... In situations where there are small amounts of archons in wide open spaces with good ling surround micro this is true. archons cost 100 minerals/300 gas. 400 minerals worth of lings would tear down an archon. So... lings do counter archons, but archons with a composition of other units in a mass counter lings. lings counter every protoss ground unit cost wise. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On July 04 2009 08:34 stroggos wrote: At first i was like lolwat, but then... In situations where there are small amounts of archons in wide open spaces with good ling surround micro this is true. archons cost 100 minerals/300 gas. 400 minerals worth of lings would tear down an archon. So... lings do counter archons, but archons with a composition of other units in a mass counter lings. lings counter every protoss ground unit cost wise. That's why you use zealots as shields ^^ | ||
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