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Icarus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States105 Posts
December 24 2008 19:58 GMT
#61
I second chameleonia. Excellent guide. Teaches not only a specific BO, but also Zerg moves and how to react to them.

I wish I could read Korean XP that PGR site looks like it's full of great guides.
mikneb
Profile Joined December 2008
Korea (South)5 Posts
December 24 2008 20:22 GMT
#62
Good God.

Reading this guide compelled me to sift through the rest of the material on pgr21 and try to translate. I completely forgot that I am hardly fluent in Korean. It took me several minutes to translate the title of one guide, and all it came down to was reading phonetically English words spelled in Korean.

Poo-roh-Gae-Eem-Moo. etc.etc.

-.-
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
December 24 2008 20:41 GMT
#63
Very well written! I'll definitely give this a read when I get home.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
December 24 2008 21:48 GMT
#64
Can you write a Z counter to this?
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
December 24 2008 22:24 GMT
#65
Thanks a lot! This is actually really close to what i've been doing recently in PvZ, but it's nice to know the korean timings to get the most efficient build
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Makhno
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Sweden585 Posts
December 25 2008 02:04 GMT
#66
Exceedingly nice guide, it incorporates so many aspects of the matchup, even some that are not specific to the build.
"If I think, everything is lost"
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
December 25 2008 05:40 GMT
#67
nice strategy and nice explanation
if u see den or den/spire dont go more then 1 sair and save gas for goon/ob speed faster tech and higher upgrades
watching lately pvz in kor league with mass sair +1/reaver/zealot style,zerg starting to kill that sairs really easily and reaver harasses doesnt do much dmg lately due to good hydra micro or drone burrowing
rather spend gas for early upgrades or high templars
if u lose that 1st sair start another one to go one more scouting in betwen your 2nd expo and first coming out or first battle to dont get countered or fucked up by switch muta counter.
Ultras di Spalato, Etre et durer
Error Ash
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany177 Posts
December 25 2008 07:09 GMT
#68
Whoa nice this is sick. I always wanted to see a nice solid BO written down like this. Plzzzzz moreeeee (especially PvT, i suck at that mu )
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
December 25 2008 07:09 GMT
#69
You know... I've raped a lot of people with surprise 4 gate builds. Generally Z will assume you're doing a safe expo with some sort of quick tech as defense, like sair/dt. When Othello was MOTW I think I went like 10-1 doing that vs B/B+ Koreans a couple of seasons ago. You just have to hide it well and watch them closely so you get the right upgrades/tech/units... sometimes you'll want zeal/temp, other zeal archon, sometimes even zeal/dt (6 zeals 6 dt are pretty harsh vs an unprepared zerg).

Fun stuff.
ProberoO
Profile Joined November 2008
United States88 Posts
December 25 2008 07:18 GMT
#70
Good job, the guide was even entertaining to read.
The pandabearguy should be in every map.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 25 2008 17:11 GMT
#71
THANK YOU!!!

I couldn't keep up after I came back to bw after a year break. Now I see how fe can actually win me a game :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2013 Posts
December 25 2008 17:54 GMT
#72
!!Awesome guide!!
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
December 25 2008 19:14 GMT
#73
On December 23 2008 12:43 SuperJongMan wrote:

- If no speed up, fake probe movement (Usually towards their choke ol) and then FAKE JUKE TIKI BARBER that shit to the other side.


I just loved this quote =P Tiki Barber hehe Brian Westbrook is better =P Or you can just truck with Brandon Jacobs =D
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-25 19:41:06
December 25 2008 19:39 GMT
#74
Cool! Thx for the guide SJM :D

Edit: I shall refer to this build as "The Bible"
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 25 2008 21:02 GMT
#75
TY TY.
Please do.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-26 18:23:45
December 26 2008 18:22 GMT
#76
On December 26 2008 04:14 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2008 12:43 SuperJongMan wrote:

- If no speed up, fake probe movement (Usually towards their choke ol) and then FAKE JUKE TIKI BARBER that shit to the other side.


I just loved this quote =P Tiki Barber hehe Brian Westbrook is better =P Or you can just truck with Brandon Jacobs =D


Plz, don't even compare. Tiki doesn't even run anymore and no Eagle can compare. Jacobs wouldn't even run if Tiki felt like playing. -_-;; Tiki Tiki Tiki, he is the Ultimate Warrior. Plus, he's tele-genic. Sorta like George Foreman is ~_~ You have terrible taste.

Why did I ramble about such things? Cuz I updated the guide and no 12-girl Japanese teenie bop band lover is gonna tell me about no runnin backs. You never touched a football in your life!!!!!

I think I am finishing up most things, but PvZ is a stupid match up with so many variables and to sort through comments to see who's are worthwhile and who's are absolutely jokes are hard. Then you have to translate it... Then you have to... ... O that's it. But it's still a pain.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-26 23:40:22
December 26 2008 23:39 GMT
#77
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I just did the guide it was sort of awesome. >_>
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 26 2008 23:50 GMT
#78
dont encourage protoss players plz, iccup has too many

ROFL
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
December 27 2008 09:27 GMT
#79
I was reluctant to use this build because I'm so used to my 4-6 sair, reaver harass into hanbang off 2 base. I finally used it on Destination and won. I love this build now and it's much better for these newer maps.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
December 27 2008 09:31 GMT
#80
You are... a god!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
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