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Pyro]v[aniac
Profile Joined October 2008
United States147 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-07 19:39:21
December 07 2008 19:30 GMT
#21
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=15&part=highlights&video_part=2

watch from 25 seconds to 35 seconds.... please explain how to do this?

ahh, wait, this video is better:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg7IP3x0yvY
Danger_Duck
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Burkina Faso571 Posts
December 07 2008 21:11 GMT
#22
Thanks, that's EXACTLY what I mean
TBA
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 07 2008 23:18 GMT
#23
uh he isnt doing anything but running away and turning at the angles that will result in the most scourge being farther away after the turn...he even gets hit once or twice...
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
December 08 2008 06:23 GMT
#24
oohh, that's the rainbow vid I was talking about.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Hundredth
Profile Joined November 2008
United Kingdom142 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-09 10:45:12
December 08 2008 19:35 GMT
#25
Uh, wtf? So you're just saying 'make more sairs!'? That's stupid lol

That Mutalisk Control link looks good, but it's probably something you'll pick up from experience once you get the gist (you can't really memorise the correct angle :p).
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
December 08 2008 20:19 GMT
#26
On December 07 2008 23:50 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2008 20:39 Ny_Doves wrote:
On December 07 2008 20:01 Shikyo wrote:
On December 07 2008 10:56 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
Search TL for "the chinese triangle"

actually, here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=65335#3

We're not talking about computers here, I hope.


it's not about playing computers, it's about tricking the AI that controls the scourge. So it works if your opponent just selected his scourge and right-clicked on your unit. Which is what most people do.

they get confused so, so rarely in my games that I wonder :/ I always get hit when I do the "chinese triangle" but it works fine in UMS. I think the computer just can't micro


Note that the "chinese triangle" only works for the attack-move AI of scourge. If an 'attack' command is given to a specific unit with scourge, there is no way to trick the AI.
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-08 20:29:41
December 08 2008 20:27 GMT
#27
On December 07 2008 19:30 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2008 10:56 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
Search TL for "the chinese triangle"

actually, here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=65335#3



OMG, i feel i'm soooo noob now, i didnt even know about these triangles, and even now that i read about it i'm sure i couldnt use it, it looks far too difficult.
*feels ashamed and goes to watch the TL - YG english cast


Don't worry, these triangles aren't too vital to gameplay. Patrol is usually a much more effective form of micro of muta vs scourge.
Then again, with the scourge and shuttle, I had no idea either.

And above, that isn't true. Patrol tricks their AI into slowing down.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 08 2008 21:22 GMT
#28
they go on the sent side

wait...
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BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
December 08 2008 21:26 GMT
#29
On December 09 2008 05:27 Archaic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2008 19:30 Geo.Rion wrote:
On December 07 2008 10:56 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
Search TL for "the chinese triangle"

actually, here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=65335#3



OMG, i feel i'm soooo noob now, i didnt even know about these triangles, and even now that i read about it i'm sure i couldnt use it, it looks far too difficult.
*feels ashamed and goes to watch the TL - YG english cast


Don't worry, these triangles aren't too vital to gameplay. Patrol is usually a much more effective form of micro of muta vs scourge.
Then again, with the scourge and shuttle, I had no idea either.

And above, that isn't true. Patrol tricks their AI into slowing down.


Everyone I know uses 'attack' when they engage mutas with their scourge (as in, right click the muta with the scourge), I don't know anyone who microes their scourge using patrol, so this probably never comes into effect.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
Ny_Doves
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia4 Posts
December 09 2008 06:48 GMT
#30
On December 09 2008 06:22 Live2Win wrote:
they go on the sent side

wait...


that doesnt work if theres a balanar on the other team and its night time
...because you are a puppet.
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
December 09 2008 07:12 GMT
#31
On December 09 2008 15:48 Ny_Doves wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2008 06:22 Live2Win wrote:
they go on the sent side

wait...


that doesnt work if theres a balanar on the other team and its night time


That's doesn't really make sense.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
December 09 2008 11:08 GMT
#32
On December 09 2008 04:35 Hundredth wrote:
Uh, wtf? So you're just saying 'make more sairs!'? That's stupid lol

That Mutalisk Control link looks good, but it's probably something you'll pick up from experience once you get the gist (you can't really memorise the correct angle :p).

wait, were you referring to me?

I don't recall anything about making more sairs, and I don't think anyone had mentioned it because it's outright stupid. I was just referring to the rainbow video because it was the first thing that came to mind when I saw those triangles.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
December 09 2008 11:50 GMT
#33
it seems like no1 has a real idea and is jsut shootin shit lol. very good question though i think it has to deal with slow turns not turning to sharp and i think the sourge will just follow, make it a slightly 2 sharp and scourge will gain distance
savior did nothing wrong
TimmyMac
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada499 Posts
December 10 2008 00:34 GMT
#34
On December 08 2008 01:40 ish0wstopper wrote:
if you have enough sairs, u wont have to worry about dodging scourge

You usually wait till you have 7 before doing anything?
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
December 10 2008 04:42 GMT
#35
On December 10 2008 09:34 TimmyMac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 01:40 ish0wstopper wrote:
if you have enough sairs, u wont have to worry about dodging scourge

You usually wait till you have 7 before doing anything?


apparently that's what he does.
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