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randomscrub
Bulgaria44 Posts
What map qualities make a map a protoss/zerg/terran map? I think knowing these things could be really helpful when learning how to play new maps. Right now, my immediate guesses would be Terran: - easily defendable 3rd - many small movement obstructions in the middle, ie thin walls - natural or 3rd can be hit by tanks in a relatively safe place Protoss: - cliffs - islands? Zerg: - many ramps - lots of gas - far away 3rd - open middle anyway I could be wrong but those are my current thoughts | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17731 Posts
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village_idiot
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Elite]v[arine
United States264 Posts
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DhakhaR
United Kingdom721 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On September 01 2008 21:51 DhakhaR wrote: unbuildable in the middle favours P against T Luna ? :p | ||
RaGe
Belgium9949 Posts
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DhakhaR
United Kingdom721 Posts
haha yeah, although Luna is quite balanced TvP  | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
On September 01 2008 22:22 RaGe wrote: you can't split it up in races, gotta split it up in matchups this. plenty of map features only give an advantage in one mu, and there are some features that'll give p over z but t over p even more, etc. gotta be in mus, not races | ||
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LastWish
2015 Posts
On September 01 2008 21:51 DhakhaR wrote: unbuildable in the middle favours P against T I wouldn't say this really matters nowadays, because many terrans seem to include gols to their army much earlier. Also vessels seem to be rather standard, crushing my obs with gols, and mines killing everything... *gosh* that's so unfair. Terrans have evolved again, like few years ago many would be surely convinced that non-wall maps favor toss. | ||
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Februarys
Korea (South)259 Posts
Siege Tank on Cliff = gayness Carriers also benefit from Cliffs and elevation changes but its not that drastically different. Any uncrossable terrain benefits Carriers, so you can't single out and say Cliffs. However, how many more times do you see tanks than carriers in any matchup game? | ||
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kpcrew
Korea (South)1071 Posts
kid raped on imbal maps 24/7 | ||
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Elite]v[arine
United States264 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On September 02 2008 00:14 LastWish wrote: I wouldn't say this really matters nowadays, because many terrans seem to include gols to their army much earlier. Also vessels seem to be rather standard, crushing my obs with gols, and mines killing everything... *gosh* that's so unfair. Terrans have evolved again, like few years ago many would be surely convinced that non-wall maps favor toss. On Lower levels there is nothing better than turrets with true sight that automatically snipe observers  | ||
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dickless123
Korea (North)33 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
Long, Narrow corridors favor P in PvZ and T in TvP. They're about balanced in TvZ because while you can d up with seige tanks and bunkers you can also swarm the corridors for Z inbal. I think Cliffs favor T more than P, personally. | ||
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
things that affect balance - no gas at natural T>Z, Z>P, T>P - too easy to defend 3rd and 4th gas Z>T - nat with more than one entrance T>Z and Z>P - tightness vs. openness. Generally tight maps tend to favor terran at least in TvP. Big open maps make pushes hard. - minerals close to walls or edge of cliff or something makes them easy to muta harrass - cliffable minlines = T map - island without a 0/8mineral block blocking the cc/nexus spot are T features - linearity (as in no multiple paths, just push from expo one to expo 2 to expo 3 etc) T>all | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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Muey
Finland149 Posts
On September 02 2008 04:32 anotak wrote: - no gas at natural T>Z, Z>P, T>P I always thought this was a P>T feature, since the basic P army in PvT isn't very gas-heavy at all, and you usually you take a relatively quick 3rd anyway, while on the other hand, a no-gas nat will severly cut back on the amount of tanks a T can field from his initial two bases? | ||
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Xiberia
Sweden634 Posts
On September 02 2008 07:38 Muey wrote: I always thought this was a P>T feature, since the basic P army in PvT isn't very gas-heavy at all, and you usually you take a relatively quick 3rd anyway, while on the other hand, a no-gas nat will severly cut back on the amount of tanks a T can field from his initial two bases? P needs a shitton of goons, which ends up being quite gas heavy while tanks are extremely cost efficient. Zeals are just there for support and if you start having excess minerals, vultures are > zeals and also do well vs goons, so i guess that might be why T>P. This is coming from a Zerg player though, so i might be wrong. | ||
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