! [G] Forge FE wall-ins on popular maps. - Page 7

On April 26 2008 08:32 Liquid`NonY wrote:
i put my othello formations up at iccup here: http://sc.iccup.com/iccalbum/203/

i think all of mine are better than geno's.

problems with geno's:
5:00 lings break through probes, run behind minerals never getting hit by cannons. too many get through

1:00 the two cannons don't support each other. too wide open. lings kill the bottom cannon and run behind minerals. the SS of mine is incorrect. the top left cannon should be one matrix to the right so it supports the blocking probes better. it can still cover the neutral building from that position

10:00 again just cannon placement. mine has both cannons supporting the blocking probes better and it also has one cannon that'll kill lings trying to run behind minerals

7:00 geno didn't give 7 but mine is a little weird. this position sucks. basically you block with probes between nex and gate and you block your ramp. zerg can kill the top left cannon, but the other is still in good position. it can cover everything, including your ramp. it's likely he'll die trying to get up your ramp rather than attack the top left cannon anyway

remember you can kill the neutral buildings later to let your units come out easier

On October 28 2008 06:25 -orb- wrote:


NonY I really like your 1, 10, and 7 o clock FE layouts, but at the 5 oclock one wouldn't you need 4 or 5 probes to cover? There's the gaping hole between the cannon and the neutral building, there's the hole between the cannon and pylon, and there's a hole between the pylon and gateway. Is your screenshot wrong? Or am I reading it wrong or something?

Othello is motw this week so I need to get these FE's right lol.

I just started a game without learning them first to wing it, and found when I went to build my nexus that my gateway was slightly in the way and immediately alt>QQ'd lol....

On October 28 2008 06:52 Naib wrote:


They can't pass under your forge there, but yes, 5 is the hardest to block properly. You need like 3-4 probes still, even if you count that in. I tried a lot of different setups at Othello 5...I must go to sleep now (early class), but should I forget to add my pictures (WCG practice) to this thread in an effort to contribute, someone could be kind and remind me . They're the "old" WCG mappack maps (Troy, Blue Storm - covered here - , Othello, Andromeda), all starting position naturals.

Edit: a justified bump imo, this topic is pretty resourceful.

On October 28 2008 14:34 aaro wrote:
Might as use this thread since the question is similar.

Does anyone know how to wall for T on Python's 3 and 9 position?

On October 28 2008 08:00 -orb- wrote:


I actually made one just now that only needs 3, but all these stupid pcx converters cost money and the cracks are terrible.

I'll get it converted some time later and post it to see what u guys think

On November 05 2008 23:07 Axieoqu wrote:
Updates would be greatly appreciated. I'm having problems especially with Chupung Ryeong and it's tricky natural.

On November 08 2008 01:51 vAltyR wrote:
I think the Blue Storm layouts could be improved. Here's what I came up with:

+ Show Spoiler [Blue Storm, 1] +

+ Show Spoiler [Blue Storm, 7] +

The selected cannon should be built first. Pick between one of the other two, I couldn't decide which would be better. I think the cannons are a little more protected in this setup and the runby distance is a little longer.

On November 08 2008 04:16 Centric wrote:

I think in both cases the cannon closer to the mineral line should be build second, since it covers your probes as they're mining. I think your pylons both block gas miners, but I could be wrong.