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12v3 LT ZvT: Proxy Bunker Rush
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Rustymatin
United States24 Posts
I have rep if anyone is interested. | ||
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
also if don't know the basics you have to micro your drones. | ||
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ArS)V(ortiS
Germany88 Posts
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Rustymatin
United States24 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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Blind
United States2529 Posts
On September 05 2006 15:23 ArS)V(ortiS wrote: It's actually quite common to fast expand vs bunker rush. If you go pool first, you shouldn't stop making lings after your initial 3 pairs. Your creep will come later, so you'll need more lings to defend. You can also go hatchery first if you're confident in your drone micro.Ok..Um. When you scout proxy raxes, you lay the pool down ASAP. And expoing vs proxy rax? Are you mentally challenged? The whole point of proxies + bunker rush is to KILL your expo. So just lay the pool down asap, get drones down to kill the SCV and any rines you can. GL | ||
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Blind
United States2529 Posts
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ArS)V(ortiS
Germany88 Posts
On September 05 2006 15:40 Blind wrote: It's actually quite common to fast expand vs bunker rush. If you go pool first, you shouldn't stop making lings after your initial 3 pairs. Your creep will come later, so you'll need more lings to defend. You can also go hatchery first if you're confident in your drone micro. Yes...People like JulyZerg and Chojja and such can do this. Typical Battle.Net players....no. If you scout the proxy, or see the lack of raxes in the base, then you should pool ASAP. It's 10x safer, and it can help you win the game, if not win you the game from the lack of protection in the opponents base. | ||
vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
looks like your main mistake was slacking on your ling numbers, you should keep a very close eye on how much rines he has and when he is moving out | ||
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
Also as a particular thing for 12v3 temple, you might wanna experiment with 9hatch/9pool before overlord. I dunno it takes away any pressure of them doing early marine stuff to you and if you are at 3 you can sorta option it by scouting directly with your lord and by the time you are ready to hatch you should have his choke uncovered so if he sent an SCV out or built a rax really low you will see them. If you dont see them then the chance of them being at 12 is much lower. | ||
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SchOOl_VicTIm
Greece2394 Posts
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Blind
United States2529 Posts
On September 05 2006 15:42 ArS)V(ortiS wrote: That's why you practice it until you're good at it. It's not something like timing and experience that you develop over time, it's a skill that you can improve on. Read Day[9]'s giganic post on how to stop bunker rushes.Yes...People like JulyZerg and Chojja and such can do this. Typical Battle.Net players....no. If you scout the proxy, or see the lack of raxes in the base, then you should pool ASAP. It's 10x safer, and it can help you win the game, if not win you the game from the lack of protection in the opponents base. He did say he 12pooled and that should be enough to fend of the proxies barely in time. Actually, I think I was just annoyed that you ask someone if they're mentally retarded when they had the right idea. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On September 05 2006 17:57 Blind wrote: That's why you practice it until you're good at it. It's not something like timing and experience that you develop over time, it's a skill that you can improve on. Read Day[9]'s giganic post on how to stop bunker rushes. He did say he 12pooled and that should be enough to fend of the proxies barely in time. Actually, I think I was just annoyed that you ask someone if they're mentally retarded when they had the right idea. Is it possible to really defend well against a BBS on 12v3? I'm not joining in the arguments or being snide, since I don't play ZvT, but I was under the impression that that would take damned good micro from Z and/or really bad micro from the T. | ||
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crazie-penguin
United States1253 Posts
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17732 Posts
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TwiNkiE(gG)
United States2 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17732 Posts
also 9 hatch 9 pool 9 overlord is underrated build. 12v3 bbs is possible to defend. Bbs is actually slower than 8 rax.Watch Savior vs. Yooi for example of defending proxy bbs not 12v3 on lt but still. | ||
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tetsuo01
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Blind
United States2529 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7229 Posts
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
On September 06 2006 17:46 Monokeros wrote: tip, if this hasnt been said already, avoid LT like the plague if someone wants to still play it tell them youd prefer BGH, they have the same effect on me as other maps like Luna its good, but is overplayed and boring the new maps are so nice and fresh to play on like Baekdu 2.2 :3 so cool..... ya i understood everything you said. use periods for starters. | ||
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