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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28707 Posts
August 31 2006 03:34 GMT
#81
On August 31 2006 06:02 humblegar wrote:
You make me laugh! The next thing you'll claim is having qualified for WCG using maelstrom in PvP.


hahaha
sorry
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humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
August 31 2006 07:41 GMT
#82
On August 31 2006 12:34 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2006 06:02 humblegar wrote:
You make me laugh! The next thing you'll claim is having qualified for WCG using maelstrom in PvP.


hahaha
sorry


That weekend is still the only time I\'ve been to http://www.discgolfpark.com/english/indexE.htm (Europe\'s only professional discgolf course), I had a great time watching all you guys on LAN too, even though the big screen mostly showed Trek winning every freaking game vs other Swedes ^^

I still remember you vs Slayer, he with his intense (although a bit rusty) style/speed and you playing like you are on vacation or something, hiding scourge as calmly as if it was sim city, Your warmup spam was selecting a mineral patch or two and smiling, who can beat such cheating tactics! I've been to many many tournaments in different sports and that attitude you have is not quite the norm...

Those games were great btw, and still are I guess for those with earlier versions of bw available, but I don't remember any queens^^ <- pathethic attempt to stay on thread.

In addition those are probably the last 2 official Slayer games except the Stinger vs him cheese in the LB bo1 final.

Anyways grudge match soon! I've noticed your form slipping

Sorry OP for this highjacking nonsense ^^
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
August 31 2006 08:13 GMT
#83
Okay. So, this is seriously like the 12th topic with this EXACT title. I'm exaggerating a little bit, but no, really, you know what I'm talking about.

Do you know why you don't see queens used in games?

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TOO BUSY POSTING ABOUT HOW VIABLE THEY ARE TO ACTUALLY USE THEM. GET OUT THERE AND TRY IT.
I live in perpetual fear of terrorists and studio gangsters
Mr.Rice
Profile Joined May 2006
Brazil44 Posts
August 31 2006 09:14 GMT
#84
Eriador , Would be very nice if u could make a rep pack of your queen using games , to show people that it is very viable , I would be very interessed since i use queens almost every not important game zxt or zxp ( im always afraid to use it on tourneys or Cws )
Noob, but never stop learning
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17015 Posts
August 31 2006 10:21 GMT
#85
On August 31 2006 17:13 5HITCOMBO wrote:
Okay. So, this is seriously like the 12th topic with this EXACT title. I'm exaggerating a little bit, but no, really, you know what I'm talking about.

Do you know why you don't see queens used in games?

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TOO BUSY POSTING ABOUT HOW VIABLE THEY ARE TO ACTUALLY USE THEM. GET OUT THERE AND TRY IT.


Well I've read both threads in the "Recommended Threads" thread, and I found them useful. My Zerg sucks too much cock to actually be at the level where I could integrate queens into my play. I'd be willing to bet that my Zerg is worse than D level on PGT. Probably worse than c6 when WGT was still around. The old one.
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
August 31 2006 10:57 GMT
#86
On August 31 2006 19:21 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2006 17:13 5HITCOMBO wrote:
Okay. So, this is seriously like the 12th topic with this EXACT title. I'm exaggerating a little bit, but no, really, you know what I'm talking about.

Do you know why you don't see queens used in games?

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TOO BUSY POSTING ABOUT HOW VIABLE THEY ARE TO ACTUALLY USE THEM. GET OUT THERE AND TRY IT.


Well I've read both threads in the "Recommended Threads" thread, and I found them useful. My Zerg sucks too much cock to actually be at the level where I could integrate queens into my play. I'd be willing to bet that my Zerg is worse than D level on PGT. Probably worse than c6 when WGT was still around. The old one.


oh the irony.

i use queens all the time !
Happiness only real when shared.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
August 31 2006 12:27 GMT
#87
hahaahah
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28707 Posts
August 31 2006 13:24 GMT
#88
im unfortunately not able to make any replay packs as I have formatted my harddrive
really should have kept some of my old zvt games =[
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 31 2006 13:53 GMT
#89
....so play more games YOU SACK OF SHIT !!!!!!!!!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
August 31 2006 14:42 GMT
#90
On August 31 2006 22:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
....so play more games YOU SACK OF SHIT !!!!!!!!!


QFT!
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
eA.liquidman3
Profile Joined April 2006
Australia27 Posts
August 31 2006 18:51 GMT
#91
Man no one has thought of using broodling on a worker that is mining gas...If you somehow managed to have the extra eco and they don't notice it was a gas miner straight away...2 minutes later they'll start wondering why they can't pump their 2fact1port or 2port1fact... I got that idea since sometimes zvz i intend to leave 2 drones on gas for like 30 seconds, then forget to put one. I notice about 7 minutes later when i'm losing the air battles. Also when ever i did bother getting queens they ended up sitting around doing crap for like 5 minutes, then i'd parasite something, or waste an ensnare, then they'd die. Yes i sucked even worse then.

Also that CC infest thing is powerful. Ages ago it won be agame on S ignal, we both had most of our army in the mid in a half-stalemate. Lurkers got the best of his CC, down to about 600 then the queen stole it...Tanks were just out of range...
Testie has a point with the 20 mutas....If he tries to attack you, he losses his expo or his main. Mabye even both his CCs. He'd need a good 15 stimmed marines, 4 turrets, and a bunker to fend off 20 mtuas with snare...

Man this thread has made me want to learn to use queens...again...
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28707 Posts
August 31 2006 19:09 GMT
#92
lol
if you broodling one of his workers mining gas he'll notice he's under attack because the broodlings will instantly attack the scvs around it
and then if he's good he will notice and adjust. =[
and besides in tvz if you're mining with 1 scv less on gas in 1 exp it will rarely be gamedeciding
and zvp you cant broodling workers
and zvz you sure as hell cant spend gas on queen+broodling upgrade :p

and why do you think I am testie
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kiroshima
Profile Joined July 2006
Argentina28 Posts
September 04 2006 17:22 GMT
#93
shark v xellos game?
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
September 04 2006 23:58 GMT
#94
lol liquid drone pwned. yeah that worker broodling thing is worthless. And yeah probes can't be broodling'd. I tried using queens but what became the most useful for me was parasite.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
September 05 2006 05:01 GMT
#95
On September 01 2006 04:09 Liquid`Drone wrote:
if you broodling one of his workers mining gas he'll notice he's under attack because the broodlings will instantly attack the scvs around it


What about if we manage to not instantly attack the scv and gets them everywhere else ? Would the player still get the sign that he's under attack ?

It'd be a good surprise though. Just to piss him off hehe.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28707 Posts
September 05 2006 05:10 GMT
#96
im actually not sure if the broodling spell itself tells him he's under attack. I suspect not, as for example dts killing units with 1 strike doesnt give a message either. HOWEVER.
the odds of him 1: not having enough turrets/marines/bunkers to kill your queen near his cc (usually terrans do), 2 : not noticing the queen on the minimap, 3: you not managing to remove the broodlings before they attack (broodlings attack pretty much instantly after the spell is cast) and 4: him not noticing anyway is pretty small
hence you risk 1 queen and some time on the very tiny chance of you being able to broodling 1 scv mining gas without him noticing
and that's not really a significant setback to him in any way after you have queens. just broodling a siegetank instead, it'll certainly cost him more.
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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
September 05 2006 05:54 GMT
#97
On August 29 2006 15:14 13Julia wrote:
Ensere removes the effect of stim.


i wonder if its utopic to have a low-count poster with good ideas.
Teamliquidian townie
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-05 08:53:51
September 05 2006 08:52 GMT
#98
what is utopic about that. its just a fact. there was a fairly recent thread where some guy asked about the viability of mutas + lings with ensnare with quick grades against m and m. That's an idea, I've tried it a lot of times, and brings some interesting results against m and m that are expo raiding before vessels arrive.
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