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jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
August 30 2006 09:10 GMT
#61
Queens used to have Glave Wurm, they would be poonage if they got it back in 1.15
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
August 30 2006 09:15 GMT
#62
would it be good to infest cc, when you go mutaling, terran goes out, and you "counter", just to steal the cc=
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 30 2006 09:28 GMT
#63
I think queens are easy to use...
Think of it this way...
Ensnare is like, well, STORM, and queen flies so it's pretty easy.
Parasite/Broodling is like irradiation, and I don't see terran complaining OMG so hard to controll vessels all the time.

So yeah they are not THAT hard to use ~_~
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 30 2006 09:43 GMT
#64
just disregard evan
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
August 30 2006 10:35 GMT
#65
On August 30 2006 18:15 Night[Mare] wrote:
would it be good to infest cc, when you go mutaling, terran goes out, and you "counter", just to steal the cc=


Well if there's many turrets and/or bunker you need to kill them first or u may have a lot of mutas dying for just 1 cc. And you also have to defend your expansion after that.
So it's only good for really long ground way maps.
I mean you almost need to keep the turret busy while your queen is going to infest right ? So that mean there'd a lot of mutas dying.
You won't see a good terran player leaving his expansion without making at least 3 turrets.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17015 Posts
August 30 2006 10:54 GMT
#66
Queens disappear in the middle of infesting. All they need is a small distraction like a few Overlords.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
August 30 2006 13:14 GMT
#67
I wonder why broodlings have mana.

It would be nice if infested terrans were free and build faster.
ModeratorGodfather
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 30 2006 13:18 GMT
#68
broodlings have mana cause their life is limited :O they tick down just like a hallucination
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 30 2006 13:54 GMT
#69
On August 30 2006 18:43 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
just disregard evan

ouch ouch burnt?
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
August 30 2006 14:04 GMT
#70
On August 30 2006 22:14 Manifesto7 wrote:
I wonder why broodlings have mana.

It would be nice if infested terrans were free and build faster.


Its more like a timer, its 255/255 if im thinking right anyway which is not a "mana" amount found in any units.
Broom
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
August 30 2006 14:29 GMT
#71
It is actually 180. I dont know if it is affected by queen mana upgrade though

And I didnt know they expire after the mana is gone I learn something new everyday.
ModeratorGodfather
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 30 2006 14:44 GMT
#72
On August 30 2006 22:54 evanthebouncy~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2006 18:43 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
just disregard evan

ouch ouch burnt?


Its nothing personal evan, its just like the cute little 6 year old cousin wandering into the kitchen while the parents are making a big family dinner on Christmas. We smile, pat you on the head, and hand you a icecube as we lead you back out into the living room. Where the grandfather waits to put a vice grip on the scruff of your neck because that sort of bonding was popular back in the day, but now only serves to extinguish any hope of you NOT associating pain with family as that old geeser pinches the last ounce of joy you had in the night so that you may grow up to be an abusive drunk who.. I digress.
XythOs
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
Germany520 Posts
August 30 2006 16:32 GMT
#73
Was'nt it Chojja who used to go for a hydra and some lurk(killing scvs who want to repair the cc) drop with a Queen to infest the CC?
Long time ago I saw a replay of this were he dropped main and expo at same time with this, was fucking awesome.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
August 30 2006 17:54 GMT
#74
ive done that plenty o times

it's good
I also used to ensnare scvs before lurker dropping
sorta stopped cause I changed styles and never really lurker dropped much anymore (besides it was so much worse on the new maps than it was on temple), but it's really fucking good.

a couple times I would even lurker drop with swarm and then when he lifted his cc I would scourge+infest it

not to mention the 20 muta+1 queen rush
which rapes against non-fast expanding terrans. unfortunately all terrans fast exp now so it's not good. it's actually not a shitty build even against a fast expanding terran though. you can take a third gas pretty easily cause when you have 20 mutas he either has to bring mostly all his rines to take care of the exp or have them killed in transit, or he has to open himself up for infesting. and 3 turrets don't affect you at all if you have 20 mutas. not even 3 turrets+ 1 bunker does.
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oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2934 Posts
August 30 2006 20:04 GMT
#75
after seeing xellos vs shark[gm] (shark used queens) I have my doubts
Fuck KeSPA.
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
August 30 2006 21:02 GMT
#76
On August 31 2006 02:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:
ive done that plenty o times

it's good
I also used to ensnare scvs before lurker dropping
sorta stopped cause I changed styles and never really lurker dropped much anymore (besides it was so much worse on the new maps than it was on temple), but it's really fucking good.

a couple times I would even lurker drop with swarm and then when he lifted his cc I would scourge+infest it

not to mention the 20 muta+1 queen rush
which rapes against non-fast expanding terrans. unfortunately all terrans fast exp now so it's not good. it's actually not a shitty build even against a fast expanding terran though. you can take a third gas pretty easily cause when you have 20 mutas he either has to bring mostly all his rines to take care of the exp or have them killed in transit, or he has to open himself up for infesting. and 3 turrets don't affect you at all if you have 20 mutas. not even 3 turrets+ 1 bunker does.


You make me laugh! The next thing you'll claim is having qualified for WCG using maelstrom in PvP.
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-30 21:25:43
August 30 2006 21:25 GMT
#77
Ok so what would be your ZvT queen build, like 2 hatch mutas/lurks right into queens nest before 2nd expo?
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MyLittlePwny
Profile Joined July 2006
Canada171 Posts
August 30 2006 21:46 GMT
#78
Infest cc is more of a late game containment strategy, run in, get cc down then steal it. its effective vs those of us who forget to protect expo's with fortified def.
When all else fails, Blame the guy who cant speak english.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
August 30 2006 22:31 GMT
#79
On August 31 2006 01:32 XythOs wrote:
Was'nt it Chojja who used to go for a hydra and some lurk(killing scvs who want to repair the cc) drop with a Queen to infest the CC?
Long time ago I saw a replay of this were he dropped main and expo at same time with this, was fucking awesome.


Chojja vs Some Terran on requiem, i think Nada or Oov. The terran didnt even leave his base all game, chojja played that game artish
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
August 30 2006 23:01 GMT
#80
I still think infested terran can turn tides.
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