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On May 01 2006 16:27 sataNik[pG] wrote:
haha i could make a rep pack with 2000+ intersting reps but i wont cuz i beleive that by mass watching reps someone inevitably limits his originality and i dont want to do that to you guys.
i am nostalgic of the era before 2001 (1.07). everything then was so interesting because there was so much open ground for innovation.. now there are way too many players who play the same way , freaky....
Would u marry me? ~_~ I'll pay for the wedding!
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skip the churches and the marriages! lets go to tropical island, u me and the sun :D
er... maybe we need a laptop too >.<
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 01 2006 07:53 TserHossHiBreed wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2006 02:36 Patriot.dlk wrote:
If it's so bad, then why does the very best of the best protosses in the world use it? talk about an irrelevant argument. This build is too risky, unless you can make it at least C with a decent winning score on PGT don't attempt it. I'm pretty sure it looses vs 2 fact and if you're doing it on LT/sattarchasm/etc. you're doing a big gamble because of 1 fact star. Even 1 factory could probably overun this with correct SCV micro. I haven't got alot of experience regarding a PvT FE but I think this is a joke, like The Stove was. To those who say it's an awesome and viable build, everything is awesome and viable when you're playing bad opponents.
You and exalted are both crazy for arguing against this build when stork, pusan and nal_ra ALL have used it within the past few months.
It is a good build to do once in a while, of course you don't use it every single game but it's not a bad build..
On May 01 2006 12:20 Mr.Testie wrote:
Bunker rush doesn't work.
It's a good build.
I'm rather surprised pro tosses are doing it on Rush Hour though. Seeing as how it has a higher probability of being scouted fast. An extremely good terran such as boxer upon seeing the build would just lay an unfinished supply depot down at your expansion. It wouldn't make you lose the game, but it'd be a set back to have 300 minerals or so and only a pylon.
Testie, I'm surprised - don't you know that a lot of people scout VERY late or barely at all PvT on rush hour (both sides)?
Urgh, all these threads are making me want to play BW, but I must resist until my hands feel better-- And I get a new desk. And a new chair.
And should get my ass to a doctor too-.-
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On May 01 2006 17:44 Samejima wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2006 16:27 sataNik[pG] wrote:
haha i could make a rep pack with 2000+ intersting reps but i wont cuz i beleive that by mass watching reps someone inevitably limits his originality and i dont want to do that to you guys.
i am nostalgic of the era before 2001 (1.07). everything then was so interesting because there was so much open ground for innovation.. now there are way too many players who play the same way , freaky....
I know what u mean but I don't think anyone's originality would go down by watching your replays. You are one of the few I enjoy watching replays of (especially protoss) because you got your own style and i can learn new builds and tricks that I would not have think myself. As you said, most players play the same so it's not worth watching reps unless it's high caliber players.
nah its just that some strats, once known and expected, arent as strong without the surprise element and as long as im playing competitively i'd better keep some secrecy.
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in luna the build might be even better cuz u arent afraid of cliff drops
the most interesting strat for T is probably the early scv/rine rush,like the one of the draw game.im not sure yet which side is favored, but probably the toss should just let go of the natural in sight of that many scvs
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thxs satanik ill watch them
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Catyoul
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sataNik is THE SHIT !
The reps were mad cool. I watched the [hyo] one first, after the dropship interception, I imagined Korean girls in the audience screaming :D I couldn't believe you would succeed in the forceful break of the wall either, I was surprised you didn't robo there. In the 3 reps, it seemed to me that the key point of the game is in the early attack/defense
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Satanik you are my hero in Brood War.
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Well I just tested this out a few games on PGT, the terrans responded by using a 3 tank, marine scv vulture push, wich I held fairly easily on azalea (exept for one game that I messed up with my gateway positioning).
Seems like a decent strat on azalea, msg me on west (AiMonsterToss now, might be using powertoss though..) if anyone wants to test this strat with me a little bit.. im now interested =o
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On May 01 2006 18:16 sataNik[pG] wrote:
skip the churches and the marriages! lets go to tropical island, u me and the sun :D
er... maybe we need a laptop too >.<
haha
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How could the fact that progamers use it in the most important games not be a factor?
You non belivers should realize your knowledge is nada compared to nal_ra stork etc
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stay at one gate and tech dt simultaneously
dirtiest fe build yet.
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Where's the link for the replays?
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On May 02 2006 01:50 FroST(TE) wrote:
stay at one gate and tech dt simultaneously
dirtiest fe build yet.
Yes, bit it dies so damn hard to vultures
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On May 02 2006 02:10 Elsi wrote:
Where's the link for the replays?
previous page
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Wait, so the one telling us that we're making irrelevant points is trying to tell us not to use the build because it's bad on Sattarchasm+?
tell me how you gonna fend off a 1 fact star.
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hey n00b, the only maps the pros used this build on were rush hour, rpoint, and maybe other maps that dont have a cliff over your natural. its pretty obvious that the assumption in this thread is that you're not an idiot (and that you're doing this build on a map with a cliffless natural).
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EPT
