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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
9 pool 9 hatch 12 pool 13 hatch 12 pool 11 hatch 12 hatch 11 pool | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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breathe
Poland426 Posts
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[-]Ocelot[-]
United States256 Posts
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
It doesn't delay any zergling timing, and generally, it's much more useful. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7229 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On February 21 2006 13:18 Live2Win wrote: I always use extractor trick if I'm going 9 pool 3 hatch. It doesn't delay any zergling timing, and generally, it's much more useful. o.o why the need for 6 creep colonies?  | ||
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Kami5909
United States157 Posts
9 pool 8 drone 9 extractor trick 10/9 overlord Also, there are tons of variations of 10 hat 9 pool or 10 hat 10 pool that use the extractor trick 10 hat 9 pool 9 extractor trick 10/9 hat 9 pool 8 drone 9 extractor trick 10 overlord 10 hat 10 pool 9 extractor trick 10 hat 9 extractor trick 10 pool 9 extractor trick 10 overlord Don't bother with the extractor trick if you're not going to do a 10/9 build or a 9 pool - the overlord is only 4 mins less and that's assuming you do it PERFECTLY. The lost mining time on your trick drone evens it out. 9 ol 12 pool or 9 ol 12 hat is better without the trick. | ||
jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On February 21 2006 12:58 iD.MidiaN wrote: at the cost of 13 minerals i think, so if the 10th drone manages to mine twice before your 11th drone finishes you made a profit of 3 minerals, and if it only returns once then you made a loss of 5 minerals -_- i only really do the trick if i 9 pool or hatch before overlord And by that Midian means to say that the marginal difference that it technically makes is virtually nil. Do it if you want to look cool. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7229 Posts
In the situations where you're making an overlord late because of 9 pool or 9 hatch it makes sense. There you actually gain a drone that will be mining all game that you wouldn't otherwise have had because you would have lost that larva. With 12 hatch or 12 pool you're just getting that drone a tiny bit faster in exchange for 2-3 trips worth of minerals which he won't make back in time ^^; | ||
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
extractor trick on 9 overlord on 10 pool on 10 drone to 11 expo on 11 3 sets of lings and ling away (my preferred variation from here on out) gas around 15-17 and lair once you have 100 gas this is most effective on really close maps such as Requiem or paranoid androide where 2 gate zealot rushes are very threatening vs early expansion. This build provides enough lings to hold this off, lings quickly enough to put pressure on an early expand, and the option for extremely quick mutalisks (oftentimes very effective if a protoss has made too many zealots) (other than that i almost never do it) | ||
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Tofu
United States7 Posts
I did this on Gaia. With Extractor Trick: 9 Extractor Trick 10 Pool - 1:17 9 Extractor Trick 10 Hatch - 1:56 9 Overlord - 2:03 9 Zerglings - 2:30 Without Extractor Trick: 9 Overlord - 1:00 9 Pool - 1:23 9 Hatch - 2:01 8 Zerglings - 2:15 I think for anything conclusive a few people would have to do both on few maps, as well as different and same start locations on those maps. Then we could see if there really is much difference in terms of speed. Also, there are obvious variations in drone count, and order of execution, I'm sure that could have an effect as well. | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
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sdpgposd
United Kingdom1464 Posts
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Chris307
3095 Posts
On February 21 2006 12:58 iD.MidiaN wrote: at the cost of 13 minerals i think, so if the 10th drone manages to mine twice before your 11th drone finishes you made a profit of 3 minerals, and if it only returns once then you made a loss of 5 minerals -_- i only really do the trick if i 9 pool or hatch before overlord You also need to factor in the loss of the Drone's mining time when you pull him from minerals to morph and cancel an Extractor. The Extractor Trick generally isn't profitable mineral-wise. However, in builds where you don't plan on getting a second Hatchery for a while, or when you plan to delay your overlord significantly, you've got larva spawn to consider. It's best not to have your Hatchery sitting at 3 larva because that's like an unglowing CC, so in certain builds doing the trick can be like slipping some fraction of a Drone in for free. | ||
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Chris307
3095 Posts
 But it did look pretty damn fancy 4 years ago. | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
Intresting post. never thought about this very much.. Cool to read yours instead and of course i realized that what you said about this is very true! | ||
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Bladox
Canada763 Posts
On February 21 2006 11:47 breathe wrote: it's also used for 10 hatch 10 pool build ;] wich is what I do in some zvp when I feel like being a safe macro whore | ||
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Kacas
Brazil3143 Posts
On February 23 2006 02:52 sdpgposd wrote: i do it to pass the time yeah early game we need things to increase our apm =/ | ||
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United States7081 Posts
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breathe
Poland426 Posts
You like pay for it. 13 minerals for a healthy drone. | ||
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cruel)angel
Philippines253 Posts
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Chris307
3095 Posts
You usually have to do it twice though because SCV attack cooldown is so superior. | ||
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HooHa!
United States688 Posts
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Kami5909
United States157 Posts
On February 26 2006 17:49 HooHa! wrote: Thats what i want to see in the next pimpest plays, someone taking like 4 drones in terrans base very early game for harrassment, and continues to extractor heal and takes out most of the base, and some how takes out marines while healing. That would be pretty cool. Drone rushed. probably would never happen and it would have to be before 1 or 2 marines pop out. Pimpest plays are supposed to be GOOD games, not retarded ideas that should be stopped by the terran placing a refinery and/or playing semi-decently. | ||
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alphaentity
United States525 Posts
for example like how the protoss built gates in terrans base.. then terran floated over to protoss base and sealed exit for the win! | ||
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Kami5909
United States157 Posts
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ubergamer15
United States645 Posts
On February 27 2006 16:34 Kami5909 wrote: Okay, but if a terran lost to a drone rush, would you cal that pimp on the zerg's part or retarded on the terran's part? Lol. Excellent point. | ||
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HooHa!
United States688 Posts
On February 27 2006 16:05 Kami5909 wrote: Pimpest plays are supposed to be GOOD games, not retarded ideas that should be stopped by the terran placing a refinery and/or playing semi-decently. Thats why I said it would probably never happen, read, and I didn't ask for your opinion. | ||
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rpf289
United States3524 Posts
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Kami5909
United States157 Posts
On February 27 2006 18:51 HooHa! wrote: Thats why I said it would probably never happen, read, and I didn't ask for your opinion. And I didn't ask for yours, but you put it out there anyway. | ||
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