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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
i havent been using the reaver much lately and when i do, i cant seem to pick it up or make it shoot correctly like pros is there away to make it shoot better or any micro tips with the reaver? does moving back then pressing attack make it shoot faster then just dropping it? i dunno | ||
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LegendaryDreams
Canada1350 Posts
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FireBlast!
United Kingdom5251 Posts
Half of it just comes from 'feel' and experience, but some really easy things you can do are the following: 1) Always keep the shuttle on the move to avoid the unnecessary acceleration which would make your unloading and loading much more efficient. 2) Try to always manually target your scarab for full effect, i.e the zergling right in the middle of the pack or a tank at half health for 1 hit kill. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Reaver judgement is knowing where to drop, when to leave, and when to stay. Loosing a reaver puts you at a huge disadvantage early game--it's an entire reaver cost + scarab cost + support bay cost for whatever you get out of the reaver. Even if you don't get too many kills with a reaver, keep it alive for the threat alone, which forces your opponent to have defense everywhere. If those defenses happen to be units, if your reaver dies, they can send them away to bash your face, much like zvt loosing muta fashion. Of course, if you're sure you can get some 13 peon kills by sacrificing a reaver, it's worth it, but keep in mind scarabs can be retarded. Practice the micro, loose a bunch of games by foing reaver, and you'll get better. But as always, try to see if you could possibly distract your opponent during/before the drop. You want their attention not on your shuttle, because it's often their good countermicro that owns your drop rather than your bad micro. (well, both for me >_< ) | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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T______T
United States538 Posts
 You have to know when the reaver will decide to have a seizure (it is somewhat predictable). | ||
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donmega2
United States26 Posts
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LegendaryDreams
Canada1350 Posts
On September 06 2005 15:47 donmega2 wrote: How do you get the reaver to shoot at the target you right click on. Everytime I drop a reaver I right click on a probe or something and a goon shoots at the reaver so it fires back at the goon xD. Spam attack command at the probes, people don't spam some commands for no reason.  | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Control_The_Masses
United States73 Posts
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LaO-Tyros_Reffa
Netherlands50 Posts
On September 06 2005 12:46 GrandInquisitor wrote: Just one tip that I learned myself the hard way, but is really surprisingly simple - use the shuttle to rightclick on the reaver to pick it up, don't use the reaver to right click on the shuttle to be loaded into it. This way the reaver may yet launch one or two final shots. Correct GrandInquisitor. But more important, imo, is the difference in command it really means (although 1 or 2 shots extra is also nice). When you have the reaver selected, and click on the shuttle (to load in), the reaver will (indeed) stop firing, but more importantly, it will move to the shuttle, which is something that lots of people forget (and they lose their reaver). So, make sure you have the shuttle selected to load-in the reaver, because the reaver will stay put and the shuttle will move to the reaver (it's a basic, true, but not everyone knows it). If you get the hang of it (practise, practise:D) and you're fast enough, you should be able to save your reaver quite easily, especially with shuttle movement upgrade (makes it the fastest transporter in the game). Something 'extra' you can do, after sending your shuttle to the resque, move your reaver away from incoming (enemy) troops; the shuttle will move directions accordingly (also good to remember, that). | ||
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ArseniC-2
United States131 Posts
http://b.1asphost.com/FoggY123/TwO)ArseniC( vs e-Ric.rep | ||
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ArseniC-2
United States131 Posts
On September 06 2005 12:46 GrandInquisitor wrote: Just one tip that I learned myself the hard way, but is really surprisingly simple - use the shuttle to rightclick on the reaver to pick it up, don't use the reaver to right click on the shuttle to be loaded into it. This way the reaver may yet launch one or two final shots. That is true in some siutations, but the problem is that the shuttle slows down as it picks up the reaver, and the reaver ends up getting loaded much slower... someitmes you just need to right click on the shuttle and get the hell out of there. | ||
RaGe
Belgium9949 Posts
if you have problems keeping it moving while doing something in base make it waypoint move above your reaver from left to right or top to bottom whatever so it remains moving the rest is all practice imo | ||
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OuT[GG]
Canada116 Posts
On September 07 2005 03:26 ArseniC-2 wrote: Well I'm not super gosu or anything, but here's a PvP where I use reavers in desperation to make a huge comeback (just played yesterday) ;D Enjoy ^^ http://b.1asphost.com/FoggY123/TwO)ArseniC( vs e-Ric.rep Very nice game On what server was that played ? ^_^ | ||
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Knickknack
United States1187 Posts
in pvp when your goon/reaver vs whatever he has and hes stationary drop your reavers first just close enough that they can hit. Keep your goons slighly behind your reavers. Usually his units will move toward where they are being attacked or they will take the hits either way its good. Once he commits to an attack move your goons just ahead of your reavers so your reavers dont take most of the damage. Usually ill just concentrate on poping the reaver in a shuttle if its getting concentrated shots at rather then aiming my shots. Anyone have anything to say abou aiming shots with the reaver in battle? If its not you attacking a stationary opponent you dont really have much of a choice. Just drop the reavers where they can do damage and take minimal hits. Thoughts about shuttle speed, worth it or not? Thoughts about reavers without shuttle? | ||
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koehli
Germany350 Posts
So whenever you are dropping a peon line, choose one of the closer peons, not one right in the center of everything. These usually get screened, when the opponent reacts and pulls away his workers in a slide transfer. Sometimes even without. Also try not to have to many buildings/minerals/doodads in your way. Scarabs really are not one of the smartest unit in bw... | ||
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ArseniC-2
United States131 Posts
On September 07 2005 05:41 OuT[GG] wrote: Very nice game On what server was that played ? ^_^thanks, it was played on West | ||
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
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ahk-gosu
Korea (South)2099 Posts
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antrax
Peru191 Posts
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GuYuTe-
United States550 Posts
(This works with all transporters by the way) | ||
Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
I think i drop it, then select both and right click on a target, select the shuttle spin it back around to pick up the reaver, that way the shuttle never loses speed.You can get the timing perfect so it spins and picks it up just as it has fired. Most of it is just experience in the timing of knowing when it is about to shoot, then you just do everything else around that. A few small things is if you DO drop it BEHIND the minerals. Make sure it is RIGHT ON THEM.That way it will fire through the minerals instead of going around. Else just drop in or to the side. Zealot/goon drop and reaver is good as you can take out quite a lot of tanks by drawing the fire away. Also if you see a lone tank seiged just drop on it or near it and it dies before they can do anything. There are so many games you can win from harassing just knowing where you can drop safely, and every unit you kill is a bonus. After some practice you will see situations where you can take on 3-4 tanks and know you will win the fight. I think there were some games with ArtOfTerran where i killed 5+ tanks with 1 reaver and zealot. I remember one with 7 kills, and thats an instant game winner. So yeah its not necessary to go only after scvs. Normally you can get them anyway after you knock some tanks off.And if they focus so much on defence to stop the reaver they wont have enough to stop the attack from the front. After every mini successful raid, just move the shuttle around a little (they will still be focused on it) and go back and build more stuff at your main, before refocusing on your harrassing units. Reavers rule. | ||
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Darki[CKG]
Peru60 Posts
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Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
Actually i changed my mind partly. This method is fine for low APM users. Not for apm freaks though, i used to do this method when i first went to korea as i was really slow. Can't do it now though. | ||
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antrax
Peru191 Posts
For keep moving your shuttle a simple patrol wouldn't be enough? | ||
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tec27
United States3702 Posts
On September 09 2005 11:01 antrax wrote: Now you don't lose the hotkeys if the unit is not available. Example: hotkey reaver to 2 you can press 2 as much as you want (even with the reaver in the shuttle) when the reaver is available the hoykey will still be working). For keep moving your shuttle a simple patrol wouldn't be enough? Patrol wouldn't work, at least IIRC, because the shuttle will almost come to a stop to turn around, thus defeating the purpose of trying to keep it moving. | ||
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ArseniC-2
United States131 Posts
Lately I've been using 1 reaver in a shuttle to harass the terran early, but making sure not to lose it, then park 2 reavers and the shuttle outside the terran choke (with an obs to spot when units are coming out) and then double expanding. It seems incredibly effective so far... it really fucks up vulture raids, and if the terran comes out too fast, you can often score 3-4 tank kills with vulture kills as well. If he doesn't come out fast, he has to inch towards you with siege mode which slows him down considerably. What do you think of this? by the way leg, you probably don't remember me but I was in tQ on west and we gamed awhile back. | ||
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RaGe
Belgium9949 Posts
[QUOTE]On September 09 2005 11:01 antrax wrote: Now you don't lose the hotkeys if the unit is not available. Example: hotkey reaver to 2 you can press 2 as much as you want (even with the reaver in the shuttle) when the reaver is available the hoykey will still be working). For keep moving your shuttle a simple patrol wouldn't be enough?[/QUOTE] Patrol wouldn't work, at least IIRC, because the shuttle will almost come to a stop to turn around, thus defeating the purpose of trying to keep it moving.[/QUOTE 1.12 patch made patrol slow down less, but yeah, waypointing is better | ||
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ComunistHobo
Canada208 Posts
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Echo
United States435 Posts
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EmS.Radagast
Israel280 Posts
It takes more attention and speed than just right-clicking with shuttle, though. I'm a very slow player (100 apm) so I don't do it  | ||
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Kakashi[Black]
84 Posts
1) Very early game , like cheese which hurt your eco much more but can make more damage 2)Mid game 2 reavers often with speed shuttle. It has better chances to suprise your opponet. I often see pro`s doing this. They often won`t kill any scv or tanks but just hunt down few supply`s and it looks good ^^ Also is it better to wait for 2 nd reaver or go with 1 + 2 zeals ? | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
i think u should go with 1-2 (better 2) zeals so u can harrass til the 2nd rvr is out. | ||
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
Wasting Scarabs to kill Supply Depots ... haven't even seen nor heard of such a thing. Whether you use two Reavers, a Dragoon + Reaver, or two Zealots and a Reaver is all about preference. I honestly prefer Dragoon + Reaver due to the range of the Dragoon (takes down a Tank hit with a Scarab in two hits) as compared to a Zealot that must walk up to the Tank itself. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On May 05 2008 02:29 Equinox_kr wrote: Wasting Scarabs to kill Supply Depots ... haven't even seen nor heard of such a thing. It's been done --- see Reach vs Justin, lemme see if I can dig it up... http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/2940_Justin_vs_Reach/vod Takes out 4 supply depots, very good use of scarabs! This is one of my favorite Reach games. EDIT: it's at 9:05. | ||
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Deleted User 30223
3104 Posts
On May 05 2008 02:29 Equinox_kr wrote: Wasting Scarabs to kill Supply Depots ... haven't even seen nor heard of such a thing. actually, pros have been doing it for a while. i'm not a person that can remember a lot of games, but a lot of terrans tend to cluster a lot of their supply depots, and 4 supply depots going down simultaneously can really hurt a terran, especially early-mid game. | ||
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ZianG
China104 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
grab shuttle with reaver in it, press u+click to unload at a spot immediately circle the dropped reaver with my mouse to grab it(generally grabbing the shuttle as well) then right click wherever i want to attack then immediately right click back in the shuttle - reaver goes back in though i guess there were some more dangerous situations where I would have to grab the shuttle and tell it to load the reaver. so i guess i didnt really always do it the same way | ||
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