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On May 30 2005 11:22 Gandalf wrote:
As far as I remember two of the bb bases are wallable with one rax and two depots, and the other two with rax/depo/academy.
Top left was one of the bases where its possible to do a rax/depot/depot wall. The other one I THINK is bottom right, but I'll have to check. no , look at my pictures I cant see any possible way you could wall them with jsut 2 depot sized buildings and a barracks besides top left.
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On May 30 2005 10:40 BloodBath wrote:
Well those other games were not really good games they were just quick mistake game over. and when you went all in with your pocket scv and marines, I microed the worst i have ever in my entire life. I blame lack of sleep.
why are you giving excuses?
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its not excuse i still won the legit long game. the other game was just me doing some retarded probe rush and losing. plus this guy msg me 1 second before i was going to sleep, and im not going to back down to a challenge.
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why do you describe it as "the legit long game"? coming from someone who calls himself blood bath and who claims to have played thousands of games on blood bath, claiming a game is less legitemate because it was short and you fucked up your micro is especially retarded.
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Nothing >> Nothing on BB ok folks ? I'm what you could call a BB "vet" and if there's one thing I learned is that no matter w/e the cheese you attempt (cannon push, 5 pool, etc.) none is unstoppable. T takes mid with tanks ? TvT you get wraiths , than later on you get cloak. PvT you use dark templars, storm but most importantly flanking. Many P spread around a little part of their army to strike when the T attempts to take the mid. Flanking almost works everytime, this is why a T can't be too hasty to take the mid PvT. ZvT, you use flanking and lurkers. HOWEVER, I have to agree ZvT is unbalanced for the Z, but not impossible. Decent players might want to give it a try, but on BB it's always a better idea to go T or P against T. Remember this : It's not because you pawn many n00bs repeatedly with 5 pool that it's unfailable. Blood Bath players are 50% n00bs that are too slow on BW and almost 100% on vanilla.
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Oh and worker rush/stack is a laughable joke.
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isn't BloodBath a vanilla player anyways? or am i thinking of hulkamania
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I said almost 100%... anyway if he cares this much about justifying his loss by giving excuses he probably musn't be too decent.
I just read the walling part... what the heck is this ? You don't wall on blood bath, the whole game turns around controlling the middle to take the 2 other bases. You're killing yourself if you wall in against any of the 3 races. T will take solid control of the mid and tank your wall, P will laugh at you and go gate cyber goon range gate and finally the Z... the Z won't need to attack you at all, he'll fill the middle with lurks and take the other 2 bases until he can go guard/defiler.
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I don't care, just keep on posting the reps 
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On May 31 2005 04:36 Liquid`Drone wrote:
why do you describe it as "the legit long game"? coming from someone who calls himself blood bath and who claims to have played thousands of games on blood bath, claiming a game is less legitemate because it was short and you fucked up your micro is especially retarded.
i know those losses were flukes because i outplayed and outmicroed this guy. Why do you think he didnt post the reps?, the games were retarded. The only reason i lost was because i tried something new versus someone decent. its not often i get to try shit out vs good players because there just isnt enough chances. it doesnt matter to me anyways he beat me 3-2 i dont even care. so why do you?
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On May 31 2005 09:51 TserHossHiBreed wrote:
I said almost 100%... anyway if he cares this much about justifying his loss by giving excuses he probably musn't be too decent.
I just read the walling part... what the heck is this ? You don't wall on blood bath, the whole game turns around controlling the middle to take the 2 other bases. You're killing yourself if you wall in against any of the 3 races. T will take solid control of the mid and tank your wall, P will laugh at you and go gate cyber goon range gate and finally the Z... the Z won't need to attack you at all, he'll fill the middle with lurks and take the other 2 bases until he can go guard/defiler. walling vs p is good if they already threw down their 2 gates. Even if they didnt, you can tech fast. If he trys to take a base you can pretty much push your own expo or kill him hes not gonna have obs and a shuttles and shit to stop your push.
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Ya, repel him from the middle, go in the middle and get pawned by DTs/flanking. You won't have tanks before his 1st goon comes in to harass your wall. Then you'll have about 3-4 goons with range pawning you before your 1st tank is done. And besides, if I scout and see your barrack and 1st sup is at your choke (which should be under construction before I get a 2nd gateway) then I'll see it's a wall and go core right away. TvP on BB you've got no choice but to go infantry first. Walling is out of the question.
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it doesn't matter if they already "threw down their 2 gates", if they stop using them it barely makes any difference
and bloodbath if you're so good why are you trying new things against someone decent?
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On May 31 2005 13:25 BloodBath wrote:
i know those losses were flukes because i outplayed and outmicroed this guy.
Stfu loser, if you outplayed and outmicroed him you wouldn't have lost would you? Just as an aside... if you weren't being such a dick trying to diminish the value of his wins then people wouldn't be jumping in to insult you. You're the one who was trying to make a point and you decided to "try something different" so stop bitching about the quality of his wins.
Decent long games on a 64x64 map *smirks*.
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On May 31 2005 15:46 RedMeat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2005 13:25 BloodBath wrote:
i know those losses were flukes because i outplayed and outmicroed this guy. Stfu loser, if you outplayed and outmicroed him you wouldn't have lost would you? Just as an aside... if you weren't being such a dick trying to diminish the value of his wins then people wouldn't be jumping in to insult you. You're the one who was trying to make a point and you decided to "try something different" so stop bitching about the quality of his wins. Decent long games on a 64x64 map *smirks*.
I have played MANY games that have lasted longer then 1 hour on blood bath, stalemates and poke attacks with spells go on for a long time in a close match. You have to earn everything on BB territory, techs, time etc. If you and your opponent have similar skill the game can last a long time.
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On May 31 2005 15:46 RedMeat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2005 13:25 BloodBath wrote:
i know those losses were flukes because i outplayed and outmicroed this guy. Stfu loser, if you outplayed and outmicroed him you wouldn't have lost would you? Just as an aside... if you weren't being such a dick trying to diminish the value of his wins then people wouldn't be jumping in to insult you. You're the one who was trying to make a point and you decided to "try something different" so stop bitching about the quality of his wins. Decent long games on a 64x64 map *smirks*. I don't mean to make it sound like he sucks. He is a good player but he even admitted that he got lucky. I outplayed and outmicroed him in the longer game, obviously I did not in the game where I lost.
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On May 31 2005 15:16 labcoated wrote:
it doesn't matter if they already "threw down their 2 gates", if they stop using them it barely makes any difference
and bloodbath if you're so good why are you trying new things against someone decent? because I have all the basic strategies down, Whenever I meet new good players its almost like I have to try some unrthdox shit to see if it does anything at all, because i know they are going to play the way i would. Its almost like im playing myself without knowing what im gonna do. www.sirlin.net talks about this type of practice shit in the play to win section.
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On May 31 2005 13:54 TserHossHiBreed wrote:
Ya, repel him from the middle, go in the middle and get pawned by DTs/flanking. You won't have tanks before his 1st goon comes in to harass your wall. Then you'll have about 3-4 goons with range pawning you before your 1st tank is done. And besides, if I scout and see your barrack and 1st sup is at your choke (which should be under construction before I get a 2nd gateway) then I'll see it's a wall and go core right away. TvP on BB you've got no choice but to go infantry first. Walling is out of the question. I can handle a few goons harrassing with scv repair 3 marines and a vutlure. and if im really slowed down I will make a bunker. its hard but its not impossible.
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On May 31 2005 13:25 BloodBath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2005 04:36 Liquid`Drone wrote:
why do you describe it as "the legit long game"? coming from someone who calls himself blood bath and who claims to have played thousands of games on blood bath, claiming a game is less legitemate because it was short and you fucked up your micro is especially retarded.
i know those losses were flukes because i outplayed and outmicroed this guy. Why do you think he didnt post the reps?, the games were retarded. The only reason i lost was because i tried something new versus someone decent. its not often i get to try shit out vs good players because there just isnt enough chances. it doesnt matter to me anyways he beat me 3-2 i dont even care. so why do you?
Actually it's 3-1... And now I'm a bit pissed off. You won 1 game PvZ. I'm not going to make any excuses, you had me there to be sure. But I don't see any reason to talk shit about me because of that. And don't start thinking that your wall is invincible, if I'd play you again I'd manner pylon you (only reason I didn't first game was because I didn't belive you would make it in time.)
Anyway, here are ALL the reps from our 4 games series. I don't like when people tell me I suck on a forum, so let's give people an opportunity to judge for themselves.
http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?replaynum=28347
http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?replaynum=28341
http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?replaynum=28358
http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?replaynum=28359
There you are, judge for yourself.
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