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ronhaak
Canada98 Posts
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
1 corsair vs Z +: usefull for scouting or killing lords, might be used vs mutas, - might be wasted time and money if enemy goes hydra vs TP + :good scouting for enemys gameplan, might be usefull in harrassing dropships, - : will probably be a tech-deadend for a while I think getting 1 corsair is a good package of safety and usefullness. ok, now let's get the pros do the talking: | ||
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
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Empyrean
17051 Posts
Of course FZ was made specifically so you'd have a balanced semi-island PvZ game. You can check out some replays though, but I don't know if you can search for "random" as a race  Sorry I couldn't help more. | ||
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
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FalliNinLove
Slovakia865 Posts
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ronhaak
Canada98 Posts
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pheered.user
United States2603 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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ronhaak
Canada98 Posts
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Knickknack
United States1187 Posts
8pylon 10assim 11gate 15core 15p 18stargate goon 22p goon sair goon 31p by now you should adapt based on what you see if you have not yet. | ||
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Empyrean
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Famouzze
971 Posts
if i had to i'd probably go robo, no stargate. | ||
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ronhaak
Canada98 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28765 Posts
 ) 4zealot drop can be a good opening although you depend on finding them on the first spot, and finding them on the last spot seriously fucks you over. but it _works_ both pvp pvt and pvz. however what I personally like the most is doing a fast templar build with a semifast robotics. it's very very solid pvz (better than sair imo). expand with 1 templar with storm 1 archon 2 probes then just win the ground battle. in pvp you will have the opportunity to storm drop fast (which is better for killing probes than reaver drop) and pvt you are fine against anything but a fast expander. it requires you to play a lot with it before your timing becomes good, but it is very solid once you do. any suggestion such as "dont play vs random" is gay as hell and people who dodge any matchups at all shouldn't play ladders. | ||
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
But that's just me, and I ain't a good player. | ||
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theburningred
France92 Posts
On March 30 2005 19:00 Famouzze wrote: i just don't play vs random on nfz =P (or at all ^^) thats so gay... i hate "hi race? race? pick" people | ||
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
On March 31 2005 00:08 Liquid`Drone wrote: don't go stargate. it's a certain loss pvp and puts you behind a lot pvt, and 1 stargate sair isn't even that good vs zerg on nfz.. (there are various muta builds that will kill a 1 stargate sair opening if the p does not make early cannons, and someone who goes hydra can easily expand. it's often good vs muta too though but imo, not if he really knows what he's doing. ) 4zealot drop can be a good opening although you depend on finding them on the first spot, and finding them on the last spot seriously fucks you over. but it _works_ both pvp pvt and pvz. however what I personally like the most is doing a fast templar build with a semifast robotics. it's very very solid pvz (better than sair imo). expand with 1 templar with storm 1 archon 2 probes then just win the ground battle. in pvp you will have the opportunity to storm drop fast (which is better for killing probes than reaver drop) and pvt you are fine against anything but a fast expander. it requires you to play a lot with it before your timing becomes good, but it is very solid once you do. any suggestion such as "dont play vs random" is gay as hell and people who dodge any matchups at all shouldn't play ladders. That's what I do on most island maps with P. Just seems to be the most well rounded, safe build. I like to try and go 1 dt, 1 ht, 2 zeal drop and kill workers fairly early vs toss and terran, use archon/storm/cannon to fast exp and overwhelm zerg. | ||
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8882
2720 Posts
wouldnt a scout be better than a corsair? it can hunt ovies, it can kill shuttle/dropship faster and harass workers to some degree. on the other hand its buildtime is much slower /theorycraft mode off | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28765 Posts
they're better at killing shuttles and dropships I'll admit that, but they're just too damn slow. | ||
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ronhaak
Canada98 Posts
P.S anyone else notice that you cant build a pylon on high ground and place your gates below it when starting at the 2 top positions? Both bottom ones work properly, with enough room to place 2 gateways, but the pylon range at the top doesnt seem to reach. Weird~ | ||
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Empyrean
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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cromiumatari
India1 Post
templar archive a drop ship and four tempar all of this must be done quicly enough and take those templars in the drop ship to the opponents base and leave them here where the minierals are located look into if the templars destroy the base alone this way u can irritate the oponent and make him leave the game | ||
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gulii
Sweden2791 Posts
On April 24 2006 04:26 cromiumatari wrote: if ur a protos just build 2 gyser 2 star gate templar cydar templar archive a drop ship and four tempar all of this must be done quicly enough and take those templars in the drop ship to the opponents base and leave them here where the minierals are located look into if the templars destroy the base alone this way u can irritate the oponent and make him leave the game I think you need to read the rules before you start posting next time. | ||
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