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TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
June 10 2011 02:37 GMT
#41
If I'm on, I'll be glad to play some 1v1. ~D Protoss

Welcome to BW!
GL HF GG
The mystery of life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. **Hang in there STX fans!! Kal Hwaiting!**
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 10 2011 03:52 GMT
#42
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, which means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


Note from when I was learning brood war. First look at scv count and then your money in the bank. SCV production is like 3x harder in bw (fucking no automine + no mbs) so having low money is probably your second step

That being said I'd love to play with anyone in this thread. I posted a blog about playing bw over the summer but really haven't gotten on that.

iccup id: i4gotmykookie
Terran is my best, then zerg, and my protoss sucks
Snackbar
Profile Joined March 2011
59 Posts
June 10 2011 10:12 GMT
#43
I would also like to get into BW, as a nice break from SC2, even though I am shit at SC2 (mid plat)
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
June 10 2011 17:15 GMT
#44
Garena is the best server for newcomers to BroodWar.

Then, when you want to improve yourself a bit more seriously - you have to go to ICCup, learn exact build orders from replays or from Liquipedia, and practice each of them for several games, to get familiar with them.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17017 Posts
June 10 2011 17:45 GMT
#45
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<
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WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
June 10 2011 19:40 GMT
#46
On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<

Hey, man, it's better than 8000/5000, which I was at a while ago. Recently I've been getting it lower and lower, and last game i played I managed to keep it under 1K/1K. Honestly, I'm just mass-gaming at this point to work on everything.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
June 10 2011 21:23 GMT
#47
On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<


I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
June 10 2011 21:28 GMT
#48
On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<


I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"

Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
June 10 2011 21:59 GMT
#49
hey shoot me a pm anytime you want to play. i am a zerg c/c+ high.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
June 10 2011 22:26 GMT
#50
I'm B- Terran, probably around C/C+ Protoss but only my PvT is actually really decent...and my Zerg is definitely my worst but it's at least C-, if anyone wants a few practice games on iccup PM me ^_^
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
June 11 2011 02:05 GMT
#51
D-/D terran ign paul88

lets game whenever we're on ^^
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17017 Posts
June 11 2011 02:56 GMT
#52
On June 11 2011 06:28 Peterblue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:
On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<


I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"

Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k.


A helpful macro tip is that if you find yourself with too many resources and all your unit producing buildings are in use, then you should simply add more unit producing buildings.

And don't queue up too many units just to keep your minerals low. Having 1 unit in the production queue (that is, in addition to the one you're currently building) is in virtually all cases the max you should be at.

I'm glad people are discovering BW. It's such a fun game!
Moderator
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 03:03:38
June 11 2011 03:02 GMT
#53
On June 11 2011 11:56 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 06:28 Peterblue wrote:
On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:
On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<


I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"

Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k.


A helpful macro tip is that if you find yourself with too many resources and all your unit producing buildings are in use, then you should simply add more unit producing buildings.

And don't queue up too many units just to keep your minerals low. Having 1 unit in the production queue (that is, in addition to the one you're currently building) is in virtually all cases the max you should be at.

I'm glad people are discovering BW. It's such a fun game!

Yeah, I don't queue up units. However, I have trouble fitting all of the unit producing structures in my base.

EDIT: Fitting them and depots and other stuff. It seems like there's never enough room.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 11 2011 04:09 GMT
#54
On June 11 2011 12:02 Peterblue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 11:56 Empyrean wrote:
On June 11 2011 06:28 Peterblue wrote:
On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:
On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<


I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"

Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k.


A helpful macro tip is that if you find yourself with too many resources and all your unit producing buildings are in use, then you should simply add more unit producing buildings.

And don't queue up too many units just to keep your minerals low. Having 1 unit in the production queue (that is, in addition to the one you're currently building) is in virtually all cases the max you should be at.

I'm glad people are discovering BW. It's such a fun game!

Yeah, I don't queue up units. However, I have trouble fitting all of the unit producing structures in my base.

EDIT: Fitting them and depots and other stuff. It seems like there's never enough room.

Usually TvZ you should queue up 1 marine(thats like the max id ever do) if your money is running a bit high, if your money is still low then id add more buildings or another factory and make more tanks if you dont think youre competent with your SK Terran

Also, try to just keep all your depots together and put port + other stuff out of your barracks way.
It takes a bit but just be patient with placing your buildings and you'll be good about it later on
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
June 11 2011 07:04 GMT
#55
On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<


I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"


Hahaha, yeah, that's not a joke. If you accidentally find yourself with over 1k minerals or gas, you're doing something wrong.
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WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
June 11 2011 13:54 GMT
#56
On June 11 2011 16:04 DTK-m2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:
On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<


I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"


Hahaha, yeah, that's not a joke. If you accidentally find yourself with over 1k minerals or gas, you're doing something wrong.
I'm doing tons of stuff wron. I'll fix it eventually though.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
June 11 2011 15:36 GMT
#57
Obviously solution to failed macro is switching over to 5 stargate carriers!
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 11 2011 17:18 GMT
#58
On June 11 2011 12:02 Peterblue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 11:56 Empyrean wrote:
On June 11 2011 06:28 Peterblue wrote:
On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:
On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<


I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"

Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k.


A helpful macro tip is that if you find yourself with too many resources and all your unit producing buildings are in use, then you should simply add more unit producing buildings.

And don't queue up too many units just to keep your minerals low. Having 1 unit in the production queue (that is, in addition to the one you're currently building) is in virtually all cases the max you should be at.

I'm glad people are discovering BW. It's such a fun game!

Yeah, I don't queue up units. However, I have trouble fitting all of the unit producing structures in my base.

EDIT: Fitting them and depots and other stuff. It seems like there's never enough room.


That's half the fun of it, haha. If you wanna see some impressive base sim city, look at some really good Fastest / BGH players, they are hella good at putting 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
June 11 2011 17:28 GMT
#59
On June 12 2011 02:18 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 12:02 Peterblue wrote:
On June 11 2011 11:56 Empyrean wrote:
On June 11 2011 06:28 Peterblue wrote:
On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:
On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:
On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.

Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.


This is absolutely disgusting ._.

Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<


I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"

Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k.


A helpful macro tip is that if you find yourself with too many resources and all your unit producing buildings are in use, then you should simply add more unit producing buildings.

And don't queue up too many units just to keep your minerals low. Having 1 unit in the production queue (that is, in addition to the one you're currently building) is in virtually all cases the max you should be at.

I'm glad people are discovering BW. It's such a fun game!

Yeah, I don't queue up units. However, I have trouble fitting all of the unit producing structures in my base.

EDIT: Fitting them and depots and other stuff. It seems like there's never enough room.


That's half the fun of it, haha. If you wanna see some impressive base sim city, look at some really good Fastest / BGH players, they are hella good at putting 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag.

My utter inability to lay out a base efficiently is one of the main reasons I want to kill myself whenever I offrace.

I just want to plop my hatcheries down and not feel claustrophobic.
qzmpwxno
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Papua New Guinea152 Posts
June 12 2011 03:04 GMT
#60
The key is usually to put production buildings (hatcheries, gateways, barracks, factories, etc.) on one side of your base and put everything else (tech buildings, upgrades stuff, supply depots, whatever) on the other side. It's just more efficient that way to keep your unit production steady and it's always nice to not have to search all over your base to find hidden hatcheries or factories lol. I like to line my gateways in a pretty line
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