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Hey all. I'm Peterblue, I played BW a bit when I was younger before I got disinterested. Currently I play SCII and I'm high Diamond as Terran and Zerg(so that's decent but nothing special). However, recently I've been feeling that SCII isn't very well balanced and isn't as interesting as SCBW, so I've been looking to get back into BW.
My question is: where can I go to find games at about the D/D- level? I've looked on ICCUP for games. There aren't many, and when I join I always get kicked right away. Is there a place I can practice besides the Abyss? Or am I missing some other server where I can play games? Or are there just not many people playing BW anymore?
Anyways, thanks for your time, and any info you can give me.
EDIT: To give info: Make sure to open your ports.
Also, Install ICCUP. Join the Teamliquid channel, and find games.
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There are plenty of D/D- games in ICCUP. Look at your AH or try to cofigure your rig to host. Hosting will make your life 10000x easier than trying to join.
You get kicked most probably because your ah is not working type /ah when you get on to check out if its working. I play on D level too and have no problem joining games. Also try to find a practice partner. Try joining clans like ICCUP Training or sGs or some other clans you can also play on Gameranger.
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Papua New Guinea152 Posts
Yeah like the guy before me said, there are still many many D+/D/D- games on iccup, just make sure you download the antihack launcher from the iccup website and people won't kick you anymore!!!
GL
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Hmm, I thought I had anti-hack on, but I'll go check to make sure. I know that that was the reason I stopped playing a while ago, because I kept getting kicked for that, but I can't remember if I got it or not. Anyways, thanks guys!
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If you want, USEast has a surprisingly active player base.
I recently started to play on USEast out of boredom and was surprised both at the quantity and quality of the players (like E/D-/D/D+)
If you want, I'd also be down to play some games with you and if you want, introduce you to some USEast players. Just send me a pm here!
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On June 05 2011 13:08 Peterblue wrote:
Hmm, I thought I had anti-hack on, but I'll go check to make sure. I know that that was the reason I stopped playing a while ago, because I kept getting kicked for that, but I can't remember if I got it or not. Anyways, thanks guys!
Make sure you launch your starcraft with it.
Also, to check, simply type /ah
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also if you are on iccup you should hang out in the channel "op teamliquid"
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lol the people on iccup that are D aren't usually actually "d" anymore they just smurfs. so dont be discouraged either. Also if you want to play REALLY bad people i recommend garena/gameranger
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Smurfs are a big issue with iccup, especially at lower levels. I would recommend playing practice matches against people from the 'op teamliquid' or 'iccup training program' channels. Just enter the channel and ask if anyone wants to play a practice match (game type: melee/free for all).
With this method you should be able to play games repeatedly against honest players. I recommend using the same map and standard BO (e.g. zvt=3 hat muta) over and over, as this will allow you to see problems in your play and put you on the path to improving ("I keep getting wiped out by 2rax marine pushes before my mutas ==> How can I defend against this? How can I scout an attack?")
For generally learning about the game check out day9's podcasts and BW dailies. They're a pretty good resource for learning. You should also make sure to watch promatches of a strategy/mu/map you are struggling with and think carefully about "why did this work? why didn't this work? would it work if the opponent did X? would it work if opponent did Y? etc" (you can also do a similar thing with bw livestreams, but make sure you don't pick up other players' bad habits).
Anyway, that's just my schedule for improving, good luck with your dive into brood war! ^_^
(for an alternative, you could check out ver's guide)
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Netherlands6142 Posts
drop by in channel "op teamliquid" and ask us for games ^_^
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On June 05 2011 18:04 shinjin wrote:
lol the people on iccup that are D aren't usually actually "d" anymore they just smurfs. so dont be discouraged either. Also if you want to play REALLY bad people i recommend garena/gameranger
What do you mean? I have alot of friends is D and I see alot of people who are genuine D. ICCUP level is just really high. Though I recommend playing on gameranger only when you meet good people.(I have a few) Because gameranger/garena plays on D-/E level and a few are only really "D" and some of people there are hacker
I suggest playing on USeast or USwest then move unto ICCUP if you really want to learn unless you met someone on gameranger or garena I don't really think its a good place to practice.
Also make sure you have wDetector or some hack detector on Bnet servers and use BWHF in Gameranger and Garena honestly some people there hacks
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United States10191 Posts
hey, im not the clan leader, but you should try and join Battle Scarred Gamers [BSG]. We enjoy having any type of level. Just ask Noise[BSG] who's our current leader to join. We'd be happy to have someone like you.
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Hi there. I feel the exact same way, I really want to get into some fun Brood War again as I miss the game so so very much. For that I have two questions: these different channels you're talking about (sGs and iccup) are the on EU servers aswell (its been so long since I've seen which realms there is but I believe there was a EU one).
Also, which is a bigger issue: will Starcraft 1 work on a macbook (one of the white older ones)?
Hope someone can help 
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On June 06 2011 19:52 kuriz wrote:Hi there. I feel the exact same way, I really want to get into some fun Brood War again as I miss the game so so very much. For that I have two questions: these different channels you're talking about (sGs and iccup) are the on EU servers aswell (its been so long since I've seen which realms there is but I believe there was a EU one). Also, which is a bigger issue: will Starcraft 1 work on a macbook (one of the white older ones)? Hope someone can help
Hi, sGs is a clan and we have our channel on iCCup. iCCup is something like Battle.net, you can get started here: http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/sc_start.html
If you log into iCCup you can get into our channel/other teams channels/ladders/training programs, there aren't any additional realms like iCCup EU, US, Asia etc. AFAIK. I'm european and I never had troubles getting a game with okay latency. There are some europeans in our team as well.
I don't know about mac but I believe I've seen a thread somewhere around here, so I suggest you try searching for that one.
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On June 05 2011 18:51 Pholon wrote:
drop by in channel "op teamliquid" and ask us for games ^_^
Euuh sorry for being a total noob here, but where is this channel? On BNET? ICCUP? I really have no clue..
Anyway hope to meet some of ya'll in BW, I'm starting to find bw very interesting!
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On June 06 2011 21:20 BeefEU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:51 Pholon wrote:
drop by in channel "op teamliquid" and ask us for games ^_^ Euuh sorry for being a total noob here, but where is this channel? On BNET? ICCUP? I really have no clue.. Anyway hope to meet some of ya'll in BW, I'm starting to find bw very interesting!
It is on iCCup. dunno anything about Bnet.
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join "op teamliquid" on iccup. there's plenty of D-ish people hanging around there all the time.
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On June 05 2011 16:05 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
If you want, USEast has a surprisingly active player base.
I recently started to play on USEast out of boredom and was surprised both at the quantity and quality of the players (like E/D-/D/D+)
If you want, I'd also be down to play some games with you and if you want, introduce you to some USEast players. Just send me a pm here!
what? east has maybe 1 or 2bgh games and 2 or 3 fastest games at peak hours, everyone hacks, especially the people that host 1:1 games
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I never seem to have trouble finding games. Alt-J, esc and repeat! :D I am sort of in the same situation as you, pm if you're interested in some sessions.
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I played 1 game on bnet.eu
My opponent was below bad, and he used a map hack...I loved how he decided to float hi cc away a few seconds before my scouting dt comes to check if he had a secret base...
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On June 07 2011 00:14 HellKey wrote:
I played 1 game on bnet.eu
My opponent was below bad, and he used a map hack...I loved how he decided to float hi cc away a few seconds before my scouting dt comes to check if he had a secret base...
Lesson: Don't play games without some kind of anti hack!
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mG.arb im pretty rusty but ill offrace vs you and all that stuff if you'd like
Message me sometime if youd like a game or two
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Aight, I´m on iccup now.. nick is Beefeu add and whisp me and we can play some games!
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On June 07 2011 03:16 BeefEU wrote:
Aight, I´m on iccup now.. nick is Beefeu add and whisp me and we can play some games!
I dont see you online, I'd like to play a few if you are D- level
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On June 07 2011 07:29 DNB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 03:16 BeefEU wrote:
Aight, I´m on iccup now.. nick is Beefeu add and whisp me and we can play some games! I dont see you online, I'd like to play a few if you are D- level
He was online earlier and we played a few games. Feel free to add him or me(Peterblue). We are both D level and we both are up to play.
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Alright, all. I was able to clear up my AH and join the TL channel. I have been able to play a bunch of game so far(all TvZ) and I'm improving rapidly(able to keep my minerals below 4000!  ). I feel I am a solid D player, although I may be D-, I can't tell yet. Thank you everyone who helped me set that up/showed me where to go. I'll respond to individual posts:
Xenocide_Knight: I'd rather play on iccup, though. Now that I've got it working it's great! If you want to play games against me feel free(nick: Peterblue) but I would probably get rolled because I'm D.
SnipinPanda: Thank you.
Shinjin: I've been able to find decent competition, so at least not everyone's a smurf.
AfecksN: I've been working on the general playstyle rather than the actual builds, but I will focus more on the builds soon. Currently I'm just repeating 1 Rax FE TvZ, with denying the third. I'm mainly focusing on my macro/timings/muta defense.
Pholon: Already did.
Stratos: Sorry, I'm not looking for a clan at this point. I haven't even played 10 games of BW yet. However, I could definitely consider it in the near future, when I improve enough.
Flash FTW: See above.
Elementsu: No thank you! I'm already getting stomped enough on NA as is.
Arb: I'm D. If that is about your skill level I'd love to(preferable TvZ).
EDIT: Also, I use the smiley a lot, I just realized.
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On June 07 2011 02:14 XsebT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 00:14 HellKey wrote:
I played 1 game on bnet.eu
My opponent was below bad, and he used a map hack...I loved how he decided to float hi cc away a few seconds before my scouting dt comes to check if he had a secret base... Lesson: Don't play games without some kind of anti hack!
Which basically translate into: dont play on official servers. : )
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On June 07 2011 09:06 Peterblue wrote:Alright, all. I was able to clear up my AH and join the TL channel. I have been able to play a bunch of game so far(all TvZ) and I'm improving rapidly(able to keep my minerals below 4000! ). I feel I am a solid D player, although I may be D-, I can't tell yet. Thank you everyone who helped me set that up/showed me where to go. I'll respond to individual posts: Xenocide_Knight: I'd rather play on iccup, though. Now that I've got it working it's great! If you want to play games against me feel free(nick: Peterblue) but I would probably get rolled because I'm D. SnipinPanda: Thank you. Shinjin: I've been able to find decent competition, so at least not everyone's a smurf. AfecksN: I've been working on the general playstyle rather than the actual builds, but I will focus more on the builds soon. Currently I'm just repeating 1 Rax FE TvZ, with denying the third. I'm mainly focusing on my macro/timings/muta defense. Pholon: Already did. Stratos: Sorry, I'm not looking for a clan at this point. I haven't even played 10 games of BW yet. However, I could definitely consider it in the near future, when I improve enough. Flash FTW: See above. Elementsu: No thank you! I'm already getting stomped enough on NA as is. Arb: I'm D. If that is about your skill level I'd love to(preferable TvZ). EDIT: Also, I use the smiley a lot, I just realized.
Im actually C high, but that was a while back, ill be glad to ply TvZ against you or whatever matchup you desire though.
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im shocked there is still so many people playing broodwar. my friends think that SCII is always BETTER than SCI. I will also be glad to play you people
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On June 07 2011 21:12 erikzbi wrote:
im shocked there is still so many people playing broodwar. my friends think that SCII is always BETTER than SCI. I will also be glad to play you people
Your friend shouldn't be allowed to think.
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Thank you everyone for the help. If anyone reading this plays Zerg at a D/D- level I'd love to practice against you. If you are reading this and know TvZ at least somewhat decently, I would love to get some coaching from you, because I'm completely lost after the early midgame in this matchup(I don't know how to deal with lurkers or hive tech, because it's different from SCII). Thank you!
EDIT: Really, any practice partners I would be ecstatic to play against you. It can be for points or not, you can decide. I just want to improve my game.
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peterblue i play a very mediocre tvz and zvt but i could probably get you pointed in the right direction. let me know: myth9684 on fish, sgs.qdenser on iccup or nkmkkmkn on skype
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On June 05 2011 11:59 Peterblue wrote:
Hey all. I'm Peterblue, I played BW a bit when I was younger before I got disinterested. Currently I play SCII and I'm high Diamond as Terran and Zerg(so that's decent but nothing special). However, recently I've been feeling that SCII isn't very well balanced and isn't as interesting as SCBW, so I've been looking to get back into BW.
My question is: where can I go to find games at about the D/D- level? I've looked on ICCUP for games. There aren't many, and when I join I always get kicked right away. Is there a place I can practice besides the Abyss? Or am I missing some other server where I can play games? Or are there just not many people playing BW anymore?
Anyways, thanks for your time, and any info you can give me.
Your best shot is to become friends with the people you play with, and practice with them more after game. You could try battle.net servers for low level games but i wouldn't recommend it cus almost everyone hacks.
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D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.
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On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy.
Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, which means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now.
EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.
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Once i played on garena vs some guy and he saw python for the first time. I swear.
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On June 09 2011 21:12 Nakata wrote:
Once i played on garena vs some guy and he saw python for the first time. I swear.
I believe that.
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If I'm on, I'll be glad to play some 1v1. ~D Protoss
Welcome to BW!
GL HF GG
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On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, which means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.
Note from when I was learning brood war. First look at scv count and then your money in the bank. SCV production is like 3x harder in bw (fucking no automine + no mbs) so having low money is probably your second step
That being said I'd love to play with anyone in this thread. I posted a blog about playing bw over the summer but really haven't gotten on that.
iccup id: i4gotmykookie
Terran is my best, then zerg, and my protoss sucks
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I would also like to get into BW, as a nice break from SC2, even though I am shit at SC2 (mid plat)
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
Garena is the best server for newcomers to BroodWar.
Then, when you want to improve yourself a bit more seriously - you have to go to ICCup, learn exact build orders from replays or from Liquipedia, and practice each of them for several games, to get familiar with them.
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On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500.
This is absolutely disgusting ._.
Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<
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On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500. This is absolutely disgusting ._. Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<
Hey, man, it's better than 8000/5000, which I was at a while ago. Recently I've been getting it lower and lower, and last game i played I managed to keep it under 1K/1K. Honestly, I'm just mass-gaming at this point to work on everything.
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On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500. This is absolutely disgusting ._. Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_<
I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"
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On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500. This is absolutely disgusting ._. Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_< I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"
Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k.
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hey shoot me a pm anytime you want to play. i am a zerg c/c+ high.
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I'm B- Terran, probably around C/C+ Protoss but only my PvT is actually really decent...and my Zerg is definitely my worst but it's at least C-, if anyone wants a few practice games on iccup PM me ^_^
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D-/D terran ign paul88
lets game whenever we're on ^^
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On June 11 2011 06:28 Peterblue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500. This is absolutely disgusting ._. Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_< I think he was saying it as a joke. ><" Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k.
A helpful macro tip is that if you find yourself with too many resources and all your unit producing buildings are in use, then you should simply add more unit producing buildings.
And don't queue up too many units just to keep your minerals low. Having 1 unit in the production queue (that is, in addition to the one you're currently building) is in virtually all cases the max you should be at.
I'm glad people are discovering BW. It's such a fun game!
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On June 11 2011 11:56 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 06:28 Peterblue wrote:On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500. This is absolutely disgusting ._. Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_< I think he was saying it as a joke. ><" Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k. A helpful macro tip is that if you find yourself with too many resources and all your unit producing buildings are in use, then you should simply add more unit producing buildings. And don't queue up too many units just to keep your minerals low. Having 1 unit in the production queue (that is, in addition to the one you're currently building) is in virtually all cases the max you should be at. I'm glad people are discovering BW. It's such a fun game!
Yeah, I don't queue up units. However, I have trouble fitting all of the unit producing structures in my base.
EDIT: Fitting them and depots and other stuff. It seems like there's never enough room.
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On June 11 2011 12:02 Peterblue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 11:56 Empyrean wrote:On June 11 2011 06:28 Peterblue wrote:On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500. This is absolutely disgusting ._. Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_< I think he was saying it as a joke. ><" Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k. A helpful macro tip is that if you find yourself with too many resources and all your unit producing buildings are in use, then you should simply add more unit producing buildings. And don't queue up too many units just to keep your minerals low. Having 1 unit in the production queue (that is, in addition to the one you're currently building) is in virtually all cases the max you should be at. I'm glad people are discovering BW. It's such a fun game! Yeah, I don't queue up units. However, I have trouble fitting all of the unit producing structures in my base. EDIT: Fitting them and depots and other stuff. It seems like there's never enough room.
Usually TvZ you should queue up 1 marine(thats like the max id ever do) if your money is running a bit high, if your money is still low then id add more buildings or another factory and make more tanks if you dont think youre competent with your SK Terran
Also, try to just keep all your depots together and put port + other stuff out of your barracks way.
It takes a bit but just be patient with placing your buildings and you'll be good about it later on
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On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500. This is absolutely disgusting ._. Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_< I think he was saying it as a joke. ><"
Hahaha, yeah, that's not a joke. If you accidentally find yourself with over 1k minerals or gas, you're doing something wrong.
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On June 11 2011 16:04 DTK-m2 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500. This is absolutely disgusting ._. Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_< I think he was saying it as a joke. ><" Hahaha, yeah, that's not a joke. If you accidentally find yourself with over 1k minerals or gas, you're doing something wrong. I'm doing tons of stuff wron. I'll fix it eventually though.
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Obviously solution to failed macro is switching over to 5 stargate carriers!
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On June 11 2011 12:02 Peterblue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 11:56 Empyrean wrote:On June 11 2011 06:28 Peterblue wrote:On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500. This is absolutely disgusting ._. Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_< I think he was saying it as a joke. ><" Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k. A helpful macro tip is that if you find yourself with too many resources and all your unit producing buildings are in use, then you should simply add more unit producing buildings. And don't queue up too many units just to keep your minerals low. Having 1 unit in the production queue (that is, in addition to the one you're currently building) is in virtually all cases the max you should be at. I'm glad people are discovering BW. It's such a fun game! Yeah, I don't queue up units. However, I have trouble fitting all of the unit producing structures in my base. EDIT: Fitting them and depots and other stuff. It seems like there's never enough room.
That's half the fun of it, haha. If you wanna see some impressive base sim city, look at some really good Fastest / BGH players, they are hella good at putting 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag.
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On June 12 2011 02:18 Torenhire wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 12:02 Peterblue wrote:On June 11 2011 11:56 Empyrean wrote:On June 11 2011 06:28 Peterblue wrote:On June 11 2011 06:23 K3Nyy wrote:On June 11 2011 02:45 Empyrean wrote:On June 09 2011 04:34 Peterblue wrote:On June 09 2011 04:20 phosphorylation wrote:
D in tvz after only a few dozen games?
If true, you are a prodigy. Well, I played SCII quite a bit(about 1000 games total) and I was a solid mechanics player, means that my mechanics in BW are not absolutely disgusting(as in I can keep my money below 4000 minerals/1000 gas for the midgame). Also, as I stated in the OP I did play BW a bit non-seriously(just against friends) and I did watch pro games a bit. I never really played seriously at all, though, which is what I'm trying to do right now. EDIT: And in TvP/TvT, the games I played so far I was able to keep my money below 1700/500. This is absolutely disgusting ._. Not to be rude, but in the midgame, anything over 1k/1k means your game needs serious work <_< I think he was saying it as a joke. ><" Haha, no I was serious. The transition in macroing from SCII to BW is steep. However, I'm keeping my money lower and lower every game. Also, I only really float a TON in TvZ. Other than that, right now, I'm able to keep them below 1k/1k. A helpful macro tip is that if you find yourself with too many resources and all your unit producing buildings are in use, then you should simply add more unit producing buildings. And don't queue up too many units just to keep your minerals low. Having 1 unit in the production queue (that is, in addition to the one you're currently building) is in virtually all cases the max you should be at. I'm glad people are discovering BW. It's such a fun game! Yeah, I don't queue up units. However, I have trouble fitting all of the unit producing structures in my base. EDIT: Fitting them and depots and other stuff. It seems like there's never enough room. That's half the fun of it, haha. If you wanna see some impressive base sim city, look at some really good Fastest / BGH players, they are hella good at putting 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag.
My utter inability to lay out a base efficiently is one of the main reasons I want to kill myself whenever I offrace.
I just want to plop my hatcheries down and not feel claustrophobic.
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The key is usually to put production buildings (hatcheries, gateways, barracks, factories, etc.) on one side of your base and put everything else (tech buildings, upgrades stuff, supply depots, whatever) on the other side. It's just more efficient that way to keep your unit production steady and it's always nice to not have to search all over your base to find hidden hatcheries or factories lol. I like to line my gateways in a pretty line
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Python is a pain for base positioning. You zergs don't know how lucky you are. Thank  God that we can build supply depots in the middle of the map.
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On June 12 2011 12:16 ninini wrote:Python is a pain for base positioning. You zergs don't know how lucky you are. Thank God that we can build supply depots in the middle of the map.
Supply depots in the middle of python??
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Noobie question! I too have just started playing BW from sc2 and have been playing some games on grandline. However they dont show on my record. How do I make a game that is ranked or how can I tell if I join one if its ranked?
Also, Im a noob zerg looking to play some games. Looking for zvt practive preferably but will play whatever.
Thanks for the help!
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On June 12 2011 13:25 Atrox wrote:
Noobie question! I too have just started playing BW from sc2 and have been playing some games on grandline. However they dont show on my record. How do I make a game that is ranked or how can I tell if I join one if its ranked?
Also, Im a noob zerg looking to play some games. Looking for zvt practive preferably but will play whatever.
Thanks for the help!
It has to be played in the game mode: "One on One" for ladder 1v1, and "Top vs Bottom" for 2v2, both on the official maps (you can't create ladder games on non official maps (not even replays xD)). Anything other is not counted towards ladder.
Btw, you guys from sc2, enjoy watching replays with other people. xD
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On June 12 2011 13:31 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 13:25 Atrox wrote:
Noobie question! I too have just started playing BW from sc2 and have been playing some games on grandline. However they dont show on my record. How do I make a game that is ranked or how can I tell if I join one if its ranked?
Also, Im a noob zerg looking to play some games. Looking for zvt practive preferably but will play whatever.
Thanks for the help! It has to be played in the game mode: "One on One" for ladder 1v1, and "Top vs Bottom" for 2v2, both on the official maps (you can't create ladder games on non official maps (not even replays xD)). Anything other is not counted towards ladder. Btw, you guys from sc2, enjoy watching replays with other people. xD
I miss this feature in SC2 SO fucking much. Ugh.
It feels like it should be really simple to implement, too.
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On June 12 2011 12:47 ZeKk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 12:16 ninini wrote:Python is a pain for base positioning. You zergs don't know how lucky you are. Thank God that we can build supply depots in the middle of the map. Supply depots in the middle of python??
Yes. Python is not completely buildable in the middle, but no map is.
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On June 12 2011 12:47 ZeKk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 12:16 ninini wrote:Python is a pain for base positioning. You zergs don't know how lucky you are. Thank God that we can build supply depots in the middle of the map. Supply depots in the middle of python??
I do this all the time in TvP if they're not cross position. I do the build that Artosis recommended in that one VOD that I can't find: a 5 fact push with supply depots and floated buildings.
Basically, you do your standard army positioning: line of tanks, line of mines in front, with vultures and turrets for extra defense, close to the tanks, and arrange units to minimize flanking (when they're not cross positions, you just hug the wall or the high ground between you two). In addition to this, though, you float your barracks and ebay, and just build supply depots with your push. The extra buildings really fuck up the Protoss unit AI, and it just makes your tanks that much more effective.
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I'm imposing a requirement on myself to play at least 3-4 games of BW a day... Used to be C on iccup when it was still big, switched to sc2, got to high masters with both Terran and Zerg, and immediately stopped having fun.... Too many scrubs/bm'ers and people who don't really understand esports.
So, back to brood war. Hopefully I can regain my former form.
I'll take a look at the sGs thing on iccup as well, good practice partners are tough to come by.
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Hey, if you guys want to play with me, let me know! I just bought myself a nice shiny retail copy and looking to really improve. At the moment, I'm pretty horrendous and it takes me forever to reach 100 food (I play zerg on SC2, so playing Terran on BW is so hard!)
In any case, let me know! We'll play games and stuff. I go Mech Terran, but I turtle up like a noob and never leave my base haha!
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On June 15 2011 05:24 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hey, if you guys want to play with me, let me know! I just bought myself a nice shiny retail copy and looking to really improve. At the moment, I'm pretty horrendous and it takes me forever to reach 100 food (I play zerg on SC2, so playing Terran on BW is so hard!)
In any case, let me know! We'll play games and stuff. I go Mech Terran, but I turtle up like a noob and never leave my base haha!
Of course! Join the channel OP teamliquid and you have a bunch of D/D-/D+ players to choose from.
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There are plenty of games you could get on op sGs too.
If your online PM me and we could do a practice game.[ICCUP name: sGs.mansasbg] I'm Terribad though. And I don't really feel like laddering much.
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