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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 19 2011 21:50 GMT
#101
The awesome replay pack initially linked in the PDF seems to be non-existant now. Any chance someone could repost it?
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 08:51:03
October 20 2011 08:49 GMT
#102
[url blocked]
Pretty much all from this thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=106115
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 20 2011 16:15 GMT
#103
ils, you are a godsend! Thanks so much!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
kRis[Mb]
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary3 Posts
November 03 2011 13:05 GMT
#104
Is there any way to upload it in other format? Idc if .doc or .txt but I prefer not to install adobe reader T.T ...
Thanks
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6737 Posts
November 03 2011 23:53 GMT
#105
the guide is amazing,the only bad in my case is all about toss and terr,hard to find amazing things about zerg
mtwow789
Profile Joined April 2011
67 Posts
November 29 2011 18:16 GMT
#106
Wow...
My PvT improved significantly after reading this guide.
This thread suggests using 12 nexus, and I think I am winning 10 in a row with diff opponents each time.
12 Nexus makes 2 fac Terran game a easy win.

I used to use bulldog toss, and always lost to better T players.nse.
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
November 29 2011 18:53 GMT
#107
On November 30 2011 03:16 mtwow789 wrote:
Wow...
My PvT improved significantly after reading this guide.
This thread suggests using 12 nexus, and I think I am winning 10 in a row with diff opponents each time.
12 Nexus makes 2 fac Terran game a easy win.

I used to use bulldog toss, and always lost to better T players.nse.


The 12 Nexus is a very powerful tool to have, but make sure you can use all the openings on all the maps they are viable on. For instance, on a map like Bloody Ridge or Alternative a 12 Nexus might not be as strong as on La Mancha, Jade, or Electric Circuit.

Being able to properly execute the 3 Dragoon expand and other 1 Gateway openings will really solidify your understanding of the game and in game mechanics, if you learn them correctly. However, if you always resort in the 12 Nexus opening (Which most players on iCCup have no idea how to play against) I question how much you will actually improve, especially in a BOX series or tournament play.
aznboi918
Profile Joined February 2010
United States70 Posts
November 29 2011 21:51 GMT
#108
Being a former BW player who switched to SC2 just a while ago this is an amazing piece of writing... Good work!!! it applies to SC2 as well and it has enlightened me so much haha thanksss. will take your advice to heart
"I want to share my bloody tears with those who cry because the road they chose was too difficult, or those that gave up their dreams to take the road that was a little easier." (Lim Yo Hwan)
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
November 30 2011 17:16 GMT
#109
One of the best guides I have ever read, ever :D
Life's good :D
CheyRa
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 13:00:31
December 15 2011 12:58 GMT
#110
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
December 17 2011 20:39 GMT
#111
hello, i felt nostalgic and downloaded broodwar, is there a player out there who wants to help me setting up for Iccup and mentoring me ?

p.m me!!

theleo_ua
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine150 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 18:06:38
December 27 2011 18:00 GMT
#112
On July 13 2010 03:25 Ver wrote:On the other hand, if your goal is trying to improve as much as possible, why would you waste your time doing allins at the start? What is that going to teach you but a small subset of the game? At best, you'll become Horang2, a completely unpredictable entity that loses more than he wins because his core skillset doesn't exist. If you want to only steal the odd game from higher leveled players, then someone like Horang2 is a great guide to follow. If you don't want to improve and just want to do whatever crazy strategy you think of, well just go do that. So before you start off , fi gure out what you want to aim for, then adjust the means to that goal.


http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6339/203horang2eng.jpg

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My BW events/showmatches: https://tinyurl.com/theleo-fund / This will be awesome if they manage to only improve the graphics but keep the gameplay EXACTLY THE SAME. One thing that makes BW great to watch is actually the buggy pathfinding (c) Dante08
krzych113
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United Kingdom547 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 03:38:18
February 18 2013 03:37 GMT
#113
sick, could anyone upload the mega pro reppack from the pdf ? i'm still looking, but it really seems that it netdisappeared
CenturionSC2
Profile Joined November 2012
United States51 Posts
February 19 2013 07:37 GMT
#114
Seriously awesome read, a bit old but the general concepts are still applicable both to sc2 and I imagine bw =]
Gogo INnoVatioN and Flash Fightiiiiiing \m/ "(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating." EnumaAvalon
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
March 25 2013 22:38 GMT
#115
I really appreciate this guide(?). It has really made me understand a lot.
ok
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
March 26 2013 15:20 GMT
#116
Easy to agree since most of what i read is 100% right.
Ive coached a good amount of players in my days and my first step when players were noobs was telling them to watch pro reps and explain to me why they do what they do.
At the moment when they started to get the hang of it, they were ready to learn by themselves.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
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