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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
July 12 2010 18:25 GMT
#1
I wrote a very detailed article was released in the latest Liquipedia issue here but I want to make sure as many people see it as possible. Hopefully everyone will be able to get value from this guide.

Download it here


*Note that the VOD list is outdated by almost half a year and not finished for TvT as I have been too busy and will updated when I have more time. It's still a good reference for TvZ/TvP games in early '10 and before.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 12 2010 18:31 GMT
#2
It's a really nice read, although I did already know a good deal.
Tbh you should get some toss/zerg to help add to the guide, especially in VODs.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
July 12 2010 19:18 GMT
#3
Only if it were for Starcraft 2.

Great read though!
since 98'
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
July 12 2010 19:31 GMT
#4
Damn ver- just finished reading the thing in entirety! appreciate all the hard work, and thanks- because its good players like you that help bad players like me get better This should be posted ASAP everywhere on tl and new players posting in the strat section should be forced to read it lol!

Once again, good work, thanks for the time and effort- and i plan on memorizing this
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KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
July 12 2010 19:49 GMT
#5
I've already read through this about 5-6 times man, it's great and really inspiring. My question is: if we have specific questions for you is it okay to send you a pm? Would you rather answer the questions here? Or are you too busy at the moment in general? At any rate, fantastic work.
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 12 2010 19:53 GMT
#6
Everyone who hasn't read this should definitely take a look, regardless of skill level. I'm trying to advertise this as much as possible, because I fear it's not getting the attention it deserves. Thanks for all your hard work, Ver!
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 20:26:07
July 12 2010 20:02 GMT
#7
I read it and it's pretty damn awesome.

Some real nuggets in there!

I really like stuff like this that have general maxims but specific examples. I like when you talk about perspectives/biases/mindsets and that sort of stuff, because it's really relevant and easily applicable to my music.
Each day gets better : )
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
July 12 2010 20:24 GMT
#8
great writeup Ver. if this was a blog id rate it 5/5
aka DragOn[NaS]
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 12 2010 21:16 GMT
#9
stickied, this is an excellent writeup. you'll learn a lot from reading it!
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Zed.iii
Profile Joined April 2010
50 Posts
July 12 2010 21:26 GMT
#10
with which program should I open this file? lol
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 12 2010 21:43 GMT
#11
On July 13 2010 06:26 Zed.iii wrote:
with which program should I open this file? lol

Acrobat reader reads PDF's.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 12 2010 21:49 GMT
#12
wow this is very nice! It is going to take awhile to finish the whole thing! :D
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
H.k[D]
Profile Joined April 2010
United States260 Posts
July 13 2010 03:50 GMT
#13
OMG <3 I love this guide. Makes me want to start playing again (got distracted by fps's again)
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
July 13 2010 04:08 GMT
#14
Very nicely written Ver, nicely laid out, very logical progression of topics, and of course very accurate. Great work!
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
88.inspades
Profile Joined July 2010
Philippines32 Posts
July 13 2010 04:58 GMT
#15
Thanks Ver! We appreciate your hard work!
at first i was o_O but then i was -_-
Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
July 13 2010 06:54 GMT
#16
Man... reading this makes me want to step up my gameplay. To be able to have such helpful information be compiled together and at my disposal... it's a motivator to do better, a testament to your knowledge and a testament to just how great of the game of Starcraft is. Amazing job with writing this article.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 13 2010 08:51 GMT
#17
Good guide. It made me realize what my weaknesses were. Thanks.
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.Soul
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada81 Posts
July 13 2010 17:04 GMT
#18
Great read! I'm not a BW myself, what I've read will help me improve my SC2 game alot!
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 17:41:19
July 13 2010 17:36 GMT
#19
Ver, I don't know where you find the time to do this stuff, but you know your shit man keep it up. Thanks so much. I usually read something like this with the idea of getting 1, maybe two ideas to make myself better from the entire article, and I already have that many and I've only read the table of contents and the first part on goals. great great stuff

EDIT:
On July 14 2010 02:04 .Soul wrote:
Great read! I'm not a BW myself, what I've read will help me improve my SC2 game alot!


Just saw this. This guide goes way beyond the scope of SC, or any RTS game for that matter. Sure the specifics are obviously focused on BW, since he wrote it before SC2 came out. But the "broad strokes" as Day[9] would say, or the basic core principles, are the same in pretty much every area of life. But in short, yes this will help you improve in SC2.
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Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 18:20:35
July 13 2010 18:12 GMT
#20
This part is especially good:
The worst part about the second problem is that due to the inherent nature of learning, the initial period of growth is always slow and will show little results. A beginning student cannot effectively comprehend the nature of what they are seeing because they have not built the mental framework to place it in: to them an SC game, especially a pro one, is just a series of actions happening for seemingly incomprehensible reasons. They can't understand their own games, so how could they even begin to relate to one played many levels higher? The slow growth during this period can easily lead to discouragement and is a stumbling block for many people; the inability to establish a mental framework is likely the reason why only a small fraction of SC players can ever get above the level of a d/d+ iccup player. The mental framework is a structural glue of sorts that stores and relates every known idea about the
subject. It cannot be fully realized until one can, at least at a basic level, incorporate together the patterns that govern the activity.


Some people I have tried to help give up after several lessons. Not enough dedication, don't understand what I'm saying well or don't put into action well. Slow progress so they get discouraged.

Mental framework is absolutely key, but difficult to talk about. Probably the best mention I have found of it is this chess article:
"The capacity for abstract thought. Correct generalizations, based on experience, produce the so-called “positional instinct” of a chess master.
The ability to distribute attention over a number of different factors such as are always involved in a “combination.” This avoids the overlooking of moves, which is the biggest weakness of most chess amateurs and beginners.
A disciplined will capable of forcing the speed and concentration of the thinking process far above the normal powers of a player."
http://www.chess.com/article/view/mentality-and-chess
Of course my issues are disciplined will and drive (motivation), which no article really helps.
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