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Toyomaha
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States144 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 02:35:44
December 28 2009 02:30 GMT
#1
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?
www.starcraftutah.blogspot.com
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
December 28 2009 02:35 GMT
#2
well just look at it =/

or do what a bunch of people here do: put notes next to your monitor saying "LOOK AT THE MINIMAP."
Anduril
Profile Joined May 2009
United States248 Posts
December 28 2009 02:36 GMT
#3
You can add a part to your routine for micro and macro to actually physically turn your head, not just your eyes, down towards the minimap. Like count to 5 then check the map. As for the minimap itself, pressing the tab key to remove the terrain can make it easier to see enemy movement.
s[O]rry
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada398 Posts
December 28 2009 02:40 GMT
#4
As zerg, I had a similar problem when playing versus terran. Like when I would be controlling my mutas, I would miss that group of MnM that was going for my third even though it walked right by my overlord. So, I took a page from DAy[9] and after every swipe with my mutalisks to kill an SCV or marine or whatever, I would glance at the minimap and the top left corner. I did this for loads of games on ICCup and eventually just settled into a timing where I look after every 2 swipes or so and still don't miss anything. Hope this helps.
Sunshine.
Toyomaha
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States144 Posts
December 28 2009 02:44 GMT
#5
On December 28 2009 11:35 EsX_Raptor wrote:
well just look at it =/

or do what a bunch of people here do: put notes next to your monitor saying "LOOK AT THE MINIMAP."


That's exactly what my problem is...I forget to look at it! As for putting a note on the monitor I'd get used to seeing it there that it would become part of the monitor! But hey, it won't hurt to try.
www.starcraftutah.blogspot.com
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
December 28 2009 02:53 GMT
#6
I heard that playing the game w/o sounds helps alot but i havent tried yet
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 02:56:42
December 28 2009 02:55 GMT
#7
On December 28 2009 11:30 Toyomaha wrote:
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?


Do you use the shift tab to make your enemy red?

It helps me when I see bright ass red blips coming towards me at certain spots of the minimap. (shuttles/dropships/muta harass).

GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
December 28 2009 02:57 GMT
#8
On December 28 2009 11:55 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 11:30 Toyomaha wrote:
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?


Do you use the shift tab to make your enemy red?

It helps me when I see bright ass red blips coming towards me at certain spots of the minimap. (shuttles/dropships/muta harass).


You're like the 10th person I hear that says this :'(

I'm red/green color blind so it doesn't help me very much T.T
SteelString
Profile Joined July 2006
446 Posts
December 28 2009 02:58 GMT
#9
You could move the post-it around to different sides of your monitor each time you become accustomed to it.
yarkO
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada810 Posts
December 28 2009 02:59 GMT
#10
i found the best way for myself was to just focus on a cycle and stick to it

control army > check minimap > resupply army > check minimap > make probes > check minimap

just change out any of the non-checking minimap steps with what's applicable (build pylon/production facility/scout etc etc)

force yourself to follow these steps and eventually it should become second nature to constantly be checking.
When you are prepared, there's no such thing as pressure.
Toyomaha
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States144 Posts
December 28 2009 03:32 GMT
#11
On December 28 2009 11:55 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 11:30 Toyomaha wrote:
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?


Do you use the shift tab to make your enemy red?

It helps me when I see bright ass red blips coming towards me at certain spots of the minimap. (shuttles/dropships/muta harass).



Yes I use shift tab all the time. It helps me notice large blobs moving across the map but the minimap becomes just a piece of the "Starcraft" border and noticing a red dot sneaking up on my probe line is something I overlook all too often and I pay for it later!

And being red/green colorblind would suck when it comes to minimap usage and shift tab. I'll try to move the note around the monitor every game.
www.starcraftutah.blogspot.com
Infested Terran
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 03:39:29
December 28 2009 03:36 GMT
#12
Space bar is your friend - if there is a minimap ping ("our base is under attack" etc.) you can press it and you will be moved there; although in mid-late game so much stuff happens that everything is blinking rapidly (e.g. units finish so fast...).

You can try the map WORMS.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/l6wibk
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
December 28 2009 03:38 GMT
#13
On December 28 2009 11:57 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 11:55 Silentness wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:30 Toyomaha wrote:
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?


Do you use the shift tab to make your enemy red?

It helps me when I see bright ass red blips coming towards me at certain spots of the minimap. (shuttles/dropships/muta harass).


You're like the 10th person I hear that says this :'(

I'm red/green color blind so it doesn't help me very much T.T


That's one of the most unfortunate things that could ever befall someone who plays :/

(Mental note: go reavers every game).
Moderator
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
December 28 2009 03:50 GMT
#14
uh yeah its a trying task forcing yourself to look at the minimap constantly, even for progamers

but its just like a chore that has to be done


it helps if you're really into the game and determined to win, then you would look at it on impulse
Nony is Bonjwa
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 28 2009 04:10 GMT
#15
On December 28 2009 12:38 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 11:57 EsX_Raptor wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:55 Silentness wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:30 Toyomaha wrote:
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?


Do you use the shift tab to make your enemy red?

It helps me when I see bright ass red blips coming towards me at certain spots of the minimap. (shuttles/dropships/muta harass).


You're like the 10th person I hear that says this :'(

I'm red/green color blind so it doesn't help me very much T.T


That's one of the most unfortunate things that could ever befall someone who plays :/

(Mental note: go reavers every game).



What about that blind guy that played against Boxer?
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Sentient66
Profile Joined July 2009
United States651 Posts
December 28 2009 04:23 GMT
#16
Playing without sound really helped me rely more on the minimap. I think Ahzz mentioned it during one of his FPVODs.
seNsiX.421
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
December 28 2009 05:16 GMT
#17
Just get a timing. If im harrasing [or whatever it is im doing], I usually just micro my direct units for 3-4 seconds, then immediately start mashing my hotkeys to keep macro up, as I do that I look at the minimap, if its a harras or my attack is going badly I pull back, then actually directly look at my base in case I missed something on the mini map, to reorganize everything, etc. Then I repeat the process. Micro, macro [look], micro, retreat [look] macro, micro etc. Just gotta get into that groove where you eek out a quick flash to see whats up while your simultaneously tend to the matter at hand.
Methos
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States206 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 05:20:59
December 28 2009 05:20 GMT
#18
Like others have said before me, I heard Ahzz say that he plays without sound in order to force himself to look at the minimap more. You should try it.
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 05:36:57
December 28 2009 05:34 GMT
#19
You don't have to always be looking at the minimap (or at least I don't). There are just certain times when you should be watching the minimap more carefully than other times. For instance, if you're playing ZvT and you know vessel should be out but it's not in sight, you can expect dropship or something and start paying closer attention to the minimap. Or if you're playing TvZ and need to go back to your base to macro, but also need to make sure your army out in the map doesn't get lurkered, keep an eye on your minimap while you build.

Edit:

About the color blind thing, I'm not sure how this would help, but I remember GoRush said on one of those Battle.net Attack tv shows that his teammate Hyuk uses the "press tab once" feature because he's color blind.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24723 Posts
December 28 2009 05:51 GMT
#20
When I first started playing seriously I would miss stuff on the minimap constantly. As I got to ~ C- I was noticing over 50% of the important things that happened on the minimap, such as a shuttle entering my main in pvp. Just as my apm had naturally increased from 40 to 130 without me paying any special attention to it, my likelihood of noticing things like that increased. Some people would argue that you should just let the ability naturally develop whereas others will suggest strategies you should use to forcefully improve your ability. This will become almost identical to many of our previous apm discussions which turn into flame wars so I don't think this thread will really solve anything.
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Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 08:32:36
December 28 2009 08:30 GMT
#21
It also helps when Toss likes to proxy gateways and stuff in your base... the cheese never ends

(probe disappears on the minimap within your base and never comes back out is always good times)

Or the shuttle with the high templar that just sniped all your worker units

Need them A.D.D. skills!!
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
December 28 2009 08:35 GMT
#22
Put a piece of paper covering your entire screen, except for the portion the mini map is on. Play 50 games like this and you'll eventually learn to use the mini map. This is how I learned. Go hard or go home.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
December 28 2009 11:01 GMT
#23
erm you shouldn't have to "force" yourself to look at it.
Its not like minimap doesnt help you but you should look at it anyway.

Just sit down and think about the minimap and why it is great to have.
What advantages it brings and how you could improve using the minimap.
(incomping dropships, oppo units in general)(Maybe also use Shift+Tab)

Once you realise that the minimap can really help you, you will look at it yourself.
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UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 11:54:25
December 28 2009 11:44 GMT
#24
Yes there are many techniques and more , there are many valuable techniques that let you rapidly make improvement, one that is a lot faster than standard and common one.

Propably noone here will tell you about them . You discover them. Take all your life experience, all the skill and knowledge and combination of thereof that u already have ( and that u can gain by asking others ) - and use them to create this techniques if that is your concious decision.

Example ?

What do u think would help you develop the technique ? Maybe something u know about beliefs ?

If u will convince yourself, be it by words , images or anything you will come up with , that u will focus all your attention that is necesarry on the minimap - you will be able to sustain this focus on minimap a lot better through game - thus you will be able to learn it a lot faster.

That is 1 technique, some people use it without even realizing - it is just to use your focus to summon all your motivation , energy and skill into achieving the goal u want. It is really efficient, so many fail to do this , they go about stuff unconciously and miss so much vital things.

Another would be to create a habit - a habit of telling urself to look at the minimap - tell yourself to look at the minimap constantly, all the time - and focus out of it only when necessary - when u need to move drones / micro mutas / cast storm etc

These are just examples and to be sure - they aren`t examples of a complete technique. The ones which are close to being completed can sky-rocket your skill in a time shorter than u could imagine was ever possible and I`m a living example of that. Still as u create them u learn more about doing so. It will also benefit in any other area of your life that u will choose if u ll be able to see the connections.

Seems airy-fairy ? Might be. Ignoring something because it seems airy-fairy , without giving it a fair trial ? Imo a bad idea and a sign of narrow-mindness. Your choice , gl : )
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 12:48:57
December 28 2009 12:48 GMT
#25
On December 28 2009 13:10 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 12:38 Empyrean wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:57 EsX_Raptor wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:55 Silentness wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:30 Toyomaha wrote:
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?


Do you use the shift tab to make your enemy red?

It helps me when I see bright ass red blips coming towards me at certain spots of the minimap. (shuttles/dropships/muta harass).


You're like the 10th person I hear that says this :'(

I'm red/green color blind so it doesn't help me very much T.T


That's one of the most unfortunate things that could ever befall someone who plays :/

(Mental note: go reavers every game).



What about that blind guy that played against Boxer?

I dont think he was blind, just disabled in some form, but Im not really sure, just cant fathom someone playing SC blind.
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ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
December 28 2009 13:00 GMT
#26
playing without sounds really hepls a lot, and give you a better reaction time
Sic iter ad astra
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
December 28 2009 14:22 GMT
#27
On December 28 2009 21:48 damenmofa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 13:10 Xiphos wrote:
On December 28 2009 12:38 Empyrean wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:57 EsX_Raptor wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:55 Silentness wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:30 Toyomaha wrote:
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?


Do you use the shift tab to make your enemy red?

It helps me when I see bright ass red blips coming towards me at certain spots of the minimap. (shuttles/dropships/muta harass).


You're like the 10th person I hear that says this :'(

I'm red/green color blind so it doesn't help me very much T.T


That's one of the most unfortunate things that could ever befall someone who plays :/

(Mental note: go reavers every game).



What about that blind guy that played against Boxer?

I dont think he was blind, just disabled in some form, but Im not really sure, just cant fathom someone playing SC blind.


he was blind.

Damn @ the color blindness...... thats too bad T_T
what do u do if you and your opponent are the same race and red and green in start already?(without the shift+tab change)
alt+qq?
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
December 28 2009 16:20 GMT
#28
On December 28 2009 23:22 MasterReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 21:48 damenmofa wrote:
On December 28 2009 13:10 Xiphos wrote:
On December 28 2009 12:38 Empyrean wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:57 EsX_Raptor wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:55 Silentness wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:30 Toyomaha wrote:
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?


Do you use the shift tab to make your enemy red?

It helps me when I see bright ass red blips coming towards me at certain spots of the minimap. (shuttles/dropships/muta harass).


You're like the 10th person I hear that says this :'(

I'm red/green color blind so it doesn't help me very much T.T


That's one of the most unfortunate things that could ever befall someone who plays :/

(Mental note: go reavers every game).



What about that blind guy that played against Boxer?

I dont think he was blind, just disabled in some form, but Im not really sure, just cant fathom someone playing SC blind.


he was blind.

Damn @ the color blindness...... thats too bad T_T
what do u do if you and your opponent are the same race and red and green in start already?(without the shift+tab change)
alt+qq?

This happens to me quite often and it is why I already got used to checking the diplomacy right after I split my workers. If he happens to be that weird red/green/brown/purple/blue shade I will just shift + tab and know that I'm the lighter-colored dude.
It is impossible for me to watch replays in which the two players play the same race and happen to be that color you guys call red/green/brown, same thing with blue/purple.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
December 30 2009 14:52 GMT
#29
On December 29 2009 01:20 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 23:22 MasterReY wrote:
On December 28 2009 21:48 damenmofa wrote:
On December 28 2009 13:10 Xiphos wrote:
On December 28 2009 12:38 Empyrean wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:57 EsX_Raptor wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:55 Silentness wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:30 Toyomaha wrote:
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?


Do you use the shift tab to make your enemy red?

It helps me when I see bright ass red blips coming towards me at certain spots of the minimap. (shuttles/dropships/muta harass).


You're like the 10th person I hear that says this :'(

I'm red/green color blind so it doesn't help me very much T.T


That's one of the most unfortunate things that could ever befall someone who plays :/

(Mental note: go reavers every game).



What about that blind guy that played against Boxer?

I dont think he was blind, just disabled in some form, but Im not really sure, just cant fathom someone playing SC blind.


he was blind.

Damn @ the color blindness...... thats too bad T_T
what do u do if you and your opponent are the same race and red and green in start already?(without the shift+tab change)
alt+qq?

This happens to me quite often and it is why I already got used to checking the diplomacy right after I split my workers. If he happens to be that weird red/green/brown/purple/blue shade I will just shift + tab and know that I'm the lighter-colored dude.
It is impossible for me to watch replays in which the two players play the same race and happen to be that color you guys call red/green/brown, same thing with blue/purple.


ah that sucks man.....
But you can also use shift-tab for replays. Remember that. If you can play like that you can also watch replays like that
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
December 30 2009 14:57 GMT
#30
Just play more. That is all.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
December 30 2009 16:19 GMT
#31
On December 29 2009 01:20 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 23:22 MasterReY wrote:
On December 28 2009 21:48 damenmofa wrote:
On December 28 2009 13:10 Xiphos wrote:
On December 28 2009 12:38 Empyrean wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:57 EsX_Raptor wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:55 Silentness wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:30 Toyomaha wrote:
I have a hard time relying more on the minimap during gameplay and was wondering what some training techniques you've used to force yourself to look at the minimap are. Some have suggested turning off all music and turning up the unit acknowledgement. That kind of helped but what are some other suggestions?


Do you use the shift tab to make your enemy red?

It helps me when I see bright ass red blips coming towards me at certain spots of the minimap. (shuttles/dropships/muta harass).


You're like the 10th person I hear that says this :'(

I'm red/green color blind so it doesn't help me very much T.T


That's one of the most unfortunate things that could ever befall someone who plays :/

(Mental note: go reavers every game).



What about that blind guy that played against Boxer?

I dont think he was blind, just disabled in some form, but Im not really sure, just cant fathom someone playing SC blind.


he was blind.

Damn @ the color blindness...... thats too bad T_T
what do u do if you and your opponent are the same race and red and green in start already?(without the shift+tab change)
alt+qq?

This happens to me quite often and it is why I already got used to checking the diplomacy right after I split my workers. If he happens to be that weird red/green/brown/purple/blue shade I will just shift + tab and know that I'm the lighter-colored dude.
It is impossible for me to watch replays in which the two players play the same race and happen to be that color you guys call red/green/brown, same thing with blue/purple.


I know I shouldn't be laughing, but I could imagine a color blind person thinking they're winning and accidentally killing their own units. I've almost done that before and I'm not even color blind >,<
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
December 30 2009 16:23 GMT
#32
On December 30 2009 23:57 Zoler wrote:
Just play more. That is all.

+1

i dunno when i check minimap during games, i have no techniques or anything that am aware of. i just as zoler said played more and then i became better at looking the minimap

very important in tvp cause of recalls ^^
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
old times sake
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 17:48:15
December 30 2009 17:47 GMT
#33
The minimap must be extra horrible for color blindness. I've always found some colors to be way harder to see than others, but that takes the cake. Also, on some monitors you have to make SC look really ugly in order to get the display bright enough to be able to see the minimap clearly. The minimap needs its own contrast setting and some kind of color-blindness options.

edit: maybe iccup launcher could add this
Lol it's so funny watching the level of posting deteriorate so rapidly when supporters of this decision are confronted with such nefarious things as REASONS. --fanatacist
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 19:09:14
December 30 2009 19:07 GMT
#34
On December 28 2009 11:36 gemini24 wrote:
You can add a part to your routine for micro and macro to actually physically turn your head, not just your eyes, down towards the minimap. Like count to 5 then check the map. As for the minimap itself, pressing the tab key to remove the terrain can make it easier to see enemy movement.



You're right about the turning your head idea that does help but I wouldn't suggest doing it for 5 seconds or tabing your mini map... You lose sight of everything except units and buildings, thats not really that helpful. Also try using shift tab so you are teal and other person is red, will make you focus more on the colors.

Nevermind about shift tabing lol,

How the hell did a blind person play anything on a computer?
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
0neheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States92 Posts
December 30 2009 21:10 GMT
#35
[QUOTE]On December 31 2009 04:07 GreEny K wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 28 2009 11:36 gemini24 wrote:

How the hell did a blind person play anything on a computer?[/QUOTE]

i think he was told like what his position was on the map, etc

it was really interesting, cuz he could actually kinda play.
KennigitsABaller
Profile Joined December 2009
Barbados45 Posts
December 30 2009 21:24 GMT
#36
On December 28 2009 11:53 justiceknight wrote:
I heard that playing the game w/o sounds helps alot but i havent tried yet


This is what some pro gamers do, yes, but at a low level it isn't significant enough to count.
I fucked your dads throat, faggot - Dan
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 22:00:18
December 30 2009 21:59 GMT
#37
We recently had a big discussion on this for the Starcraft 2. The idea was to bring the resource counter near the mini-map so you could check all your strategic info at once.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Toyomaha
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States144 Posts
December 30 2009 22:34 GMT
#38
On December 31 2009 06:24 KennigitsABaller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 11:53 justiceknight wrote:
I heard that playing the game w/o sounds helps alot but i havent tried yet


This is what some pro gamers do, yes, but at a low level it isn't significant enough to count.


So what do u suggest???
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Toyomaha
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States144 Posts
December 30 2009 22:38 GMT
#39
On December 30 2009 23:57 Zoler wrote:
Just play more. That is all.


If I had more time and less responsibility believe me I'd play all the time!!! But for as much as I play I'd like as many ideas and suggestions as I can get so that I can eventually get to the wonderful ranks of c- LOL
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Postaljester
Profile Joined December 2002
United States128 Posts
December 30 2009 22:42 GMT
#40
On December 28 2009 11:35 EsX_Raptor wrote:
well just look at it =/

or do what a bunch of people here do: put notes next to your monitor saying "LOOK AT THE MINIMAP."


I do not understand the sticky note theory i hear so much about.
Why would you remember to look at a sticky note but not remember to look at the corner of the game scren
If you cant do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
December 30 2009 22:45 GMT
#41
On December 28 2009 11:53 justiceknight wrote:
I heard that playing the game w/o sounds helps alot but i havent tried yet


This and shift tabbing makes your minimap-eye impossible to be dodged. or smthing like that lol
KennigitsABaller
Profile Joined December 2009
Barbados45 Posts
December 30 2009 23:11 GMT
#42
On December 31 2009 07:34 Toyomaha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 06:24 KennigitsABaller wrote:
On December 28 2009 11:53 justiceknight wrote:
I heard that playing the game w/o sounds helps alot but i havent tried yet


This is what some pro gamers do, yes, but at a low level it isn't significant enough to count.


So what do u suggest???


Keep on saying macro minimap macro minimap in your head from the start of the round. Or anything you have to do a lot for that matter.
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FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
December 31 2009 02:02 GMT
#43
just put ovies everywhere once u get speed zvp ;d
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
December 31 2009 05:19 GMT
#44
In a game there's a lot of shit to do and sometimes you just don't think of checking the minimap (if you're like D I mean). So what I did was practiced using replays. I watched a bunch of replays, making sure to keep an eye on the minimap. Eventually after like 5 replays I started barely ever missing drops/attacks happen which I used to do all the time. Like suddenly I would realize one player's main was completely decimated. But eventually I start to see these things happen. Then when I go to actually play games, I was able to actually look at the minimap while I played.

Hope this helps.
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
December 31 2009 11:59 GMT
#45
ya put NOTES! LOL!
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
Toyomaha
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States144 Posts
December 31 2009 18:50 GMT
#46
I'll see what the sticky note, sound off, and replay watching does for me. Thanks everyone for your help. I'll let you know what worked best for me.
www.starcraftutah.blogspot.com
WhitE.ChapeL
Profile Joined September 2009
Korea (South)30 Posts
December 31 2009 20:30 GMT
#47
i just realized that the only time i really look at the minimap is when i am 1a2a3a-ing the enemy, when i scan (when i play terran), or when i scout. I think that you should start getting into the habit of looking at the minimap more and more just by getting used to that habit. you can record little notes or something, like record u saying "look at minimap more" and have that repeat over and over until you get used to looking at the minimap.
"Life is like a box of chocolates. Just as the taste is different for each chocolate that we pick, the results can be different based on what we choose in our lives."
Toyomaha
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States144 Posts
January 04 2010 03:33 GMT
#48
I should just get a bot and have it message me every 5-7 seconds or get something that will beep every so often to remind me to look at the minimap!
www.starcraftutah.blogspot.com
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
January 04 2010 04:01 GMT
#49
On December 28 2009 12:36 Infested Terran wrote:
Space bar is your friend - if there is a minimap ping ("our base is under attack" etc.) you can press it and you will be moved there; although in mid-late game so much stuff happens that everything is blinking rapidly (e.g. units finish so fast...).

You can try the map WORMS.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/l6wibk

i actually say no to the spacebar because as you get faster, you may have lots of pings, and you may end up coming to the wrong location :/
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