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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
February 12 2004 00:07 GMT
#41
well he also cant do his "normal build" while you're still scouting because you'll see whether or not his gate, range, robo are on time or delayed. he has to wait until you get out of his base to do those things right? so if you pressure him, and he is going dt too fast, he has less units resisting, so then you get more turrets? i know, sounds a bit hard, but maybe its possible
surv
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium337 Posts
February 12 2004 01:50 GMT
#42
grot if u go fac before 2nd suply what about the marines and what about the bamboo? Do u think that gundam would change his build vs a proxy pylon? It just is not that important and u should not let it get to u like this.
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
February 13 2004 03:40 GMT
#43
i don't know what gundam would do against a proxy pylon.. he would just ignore it and go bamboo anyway, he is crazy


i changed the build still getting 2 depots before factory but not 2 marines anymore, it's a little better against dt now because i get my factory earlier

gundam's build is probably better but if i don't understand it, i can't wield it
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
February 13 2004 03:44 GMT
#44
On February 12 2004 07:19 RaSZi[s.R] wrote:
What's so hard about find proxy pylons? With lost temple in front of me and given his position and yours i can point at most 2 positions IT MUST be at.


even if you are the master gosu who can always find the proxy pylon (and there are really a lot of places where it can be, no matter what you say) , what does the protoss care? he is just putting a pylon there, not a tech or something. My point is that protoss players should do this because it doesn't have a disadvantage.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2766 Posts
February 13 2004 20:37 GMT
#45
Then stop whining about what to do as a terran.
Fire and blood
Liquid`RaSZi
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2766 Posts
February 13 2004 20:38 GMT
#46
On February 13 2004 12:40 GroT wrote:
i don't know what gundam would do against a proxy pylon.. he would just ignore it and go bamboo anyway, he is crazy


i changed the build still getting 2 depots before factory but not 2 marines anymore, it's a little better against dt now because i get my factory earlier

gundam's build is probably better but if i don't understand it, i can't wield it


i really think it's chobo making 2 marines for fact.
Fire and blood
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
February 14 2004 02:28 GMT
#47
i think gundam has more speed than you, basically. he can try to bail himself out in time with mines and turrets and if the toss has lots of units he can bail himself out with micro
proefkonijntje
Profile Joined March 2003
Netherlands92 Posts
February 16 2004 09:40 GMT
#48
On February 13 2004 12:40 GroT wrote:
i don't know what gundam would do against a proxy pylon.. he would just ignore it and go bamboo anyway, he is crazy


i changed the build still getting 2 depots before factory but not 2 marines anymore, it's a little better against dt now because i get my factory earlier

gundam's build is probably better but if i don't understand it, i can't wield it


2 depots before factory withour marines will get you killed very often versus a dragoon push at your wall. the marines are necessary and very usefull if you gundam. they shoot at a possible shuttle, they are really powerfull inside a bunker and deal lots of damage to dragoons.

i think protoss doesnt do that proxy pylon very often cause i would go 2 factory vultures, cause that is quite a good build vs dark templar(drop) and reaver builds and after defending and trying to do damage with the vultures, chances are good youll find the pylon and the mobile vultures can probably kill it for free.

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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7327 Posts
February 16 2004 22:56 GMT
#49
how about doing a good build and not a crappy one? ;\ also scout beter and justown them with 2 fact vultures
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
February 17 2004 03:23 GMT
#50
all you need to stop goons/zeals is a wallin, one fast tank, scv(s) near depot based on what you scout (intelligently), i.e. you need scv waiting there if he's trying some crazy zeal shit

that's IT, and i dont know why you wouldn't do it. the more terran that don't wall in the more protoss should start proxy 2 gate zealing into photons
surv
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium337 Posts
February 19 2004 13:50 GMT
#51
On February 17 2004 07:56 Sadist wrote:
how about doing a good build and not a crappy one? ;\ also scout beter and justown them with 2 fact vultures
Whats so crappy about his build?
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