two BO7 sounds nice for the fans, a bit concerned that some players will have too many games to play and the games would suffer from it though just like Musoeun above said.. i see STX winning KHAN easily with their depth.. Hite vs CJ is a hard one to predict though.

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

July 13 2009 15:18 GMT

#62

what the fuck is this shit? this is fucking ridiculous and even more fucking stupid

oshibori_probe

United States2937 Posts

July 13 2009 15:18 GMT

#63

And to think that 2 years ago or so it went 1v1 2v2 1v1 2v2 1v1 2v2 Ace

dnosrc

Germany454 Posts

July 13 2009 15:36 GMT

#64

I dont like that format .. bo3 of bo7 would be better then one stupid ace match, but skt1 can surely take one bo7 and have 2 s-class players as choices for ace match

KnightOfNi

United States1508 Posts

July 13 2009 15:45 GMT

#65

On July 14 2009 00:18 oshibori_probe wrote:
And to think that 2 years ago or so it went 1v1 2v2 1v1 2v2 1v1 2v2 Ace

Actually it was last season and it went 1v1 1v1 2v2 1v1 1v1 2v2 ace...

I can't say I necessarily like this new thing, but I don't really "dislike" it... I just wish the grand finals was a single Bo7 (or even Bo9 if they really wanted the extra coverage, 2 players can play twice or something - including the ace), so that it is really quite dramatic. Just imagine the pressure that this puts on the players that would potentially play the final ace/tiebreak matches though... holy shit.

LETA FTW(s)!!!

Pyrthas

United States3196 Posts

July 13 2009 16:13 GMT

#66

I'm not crazy about this format because it requires people to play a lot (especially with the individual leagues running). That said, I think it would be kind of neat to have a bo3/5 whatever set of matches, following other sports' playoffs (baseball, basketball, hockey, etc.). They can still get plenty of drama in those series; I don't see why there should be anything wrong in principle with doing something similar in sc. (Again, I still think there are some things wrong with the actual format in practice.)

sashkata

Bulgaria3241 Posts

July 13 2009 16:46 GMT

#67

I like this format. It requires a lot of depth from the teams. Well, maybe 2 bo7 is a bit much, but still good.

lazz

Australia3119 Posts

July 13 2009 16:47 GMT

#68

how about instead of 2 bo7, it was 1 bo7? eh? how cool would that be?

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

July 13 2009 17:02 GMT

#69

On July 13 2009 23:09 ArtyK.TeMiL wrote:
oz is not on playoffs ?

They are, but they are seeded into a later stage.

Playoff match 1: Hite Sparkyz vs CJ Entus
Playoff match 2: STX Soul vs Samsung KHAN

Playoff semifinal: winner of match 1 vs winner of match 2
Playoff final: Hwaseung Oz vs winner of match 3

Proleague grand final: SK Telecom T1 vs winner of playoff final

B1nary

Canada1267 Posts

July 13 2009 17:18 GMT

#70

On July 13 2009 23:21 Klive5ive wrote:
This is clearly a fix. Oz must've bribed Kespa LOTS.
The other players only need to win 2 out of 10!

Just imagine:
+ Show Spoiler +

Day1:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz Fail
Game 5:
Game 6:
Oz lose the first day

Day2:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz fluke a win
Game 5: Oz fluke a win
Game 6: Jaedong wins
Closer: Jaedong wins
Ace: Jaedong wins.... Oz CLAIM TRIUMPHANT "TEAM" VICTORY

That sounds pretty bullshit but I don't think it's TOO unfair if you think about it. If something like that really happens, if gives the other team 3 chances to take down Jaedong instead of 2 for the regular format. Winning 1/3 games against JD (when he isn't in angry mode) isn't that hard, especially when you can have 3 separate players preparing cheese builds.

vx70GTOJudgexv

United States3161 Posts

July 13 2009 17:50 GMT

#71

That is all I can possibly fathom right now. At first it's like "Oh cool! More games." Then you think about it. Then you think about timing. Then you think about depth. Then your thought process is "Oh holy fuck".

By the way: Aren't PL rosters 12? So wouldn't they have to use EVERY PLAYER on their roster in the playoffs?

On July 14 2009 00:45 KnightOfNi wrote:

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This is not good. By any stretch of the imagination.

Also, there have been teamleagues in the past that used 1v1 2v2 1v1 2v2 1v1 2v2 Ace. Proleague did that until 2006.

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

July 13 2009 17:53 GMT

#72

I think players can be used on both days?

QuickStriker

United States3694 Posts

July 13 2009 18:48 GMT

#73

When I first saw this, I was like "omg, sweet" but after analyzing it and all, I'm now like "wtf"

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

July 13 2009 18:54 GMT

#74

On July 14 2009 00:05 Klive5ive wrote:

Show nested quote +

.... I'm confused now.
You're implying they take aggregate score into account?

Exactly.

If set scores are tied, a single ace match will decide who advances to the next round.

Strongly implies that whomever has the better set score wins

On July 14 2009 00:45 KnightOfNi wrote:

Show nested quote +

Actually, 1v1 2v2 1v1 2v2 1v1 2v2 ACE was the norm from 2004-2006 then they changed in 2007 to the format your described

SuperArc

Austria7781 Posts

July 13 2009 18:58 GMT

#75

so in the first bo7, all games will be played I guess

Jaksiel

United States4130 Posts

July 13 2009 18:59 GMT

#76

This format doesn't really make any sense. I'm in favor of more SC games, but jeez.

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

July 13 2009 19:00 GMT

#77

1v1 2v2 1v1 2v2 1v1 2v2 ACE was a bit too 2v2 heavy for something that is a 1v1 game more than anything else, but I really loved 1v1 1v1 2v2 1v1 1v1 2v2 Ace

o3.power91

Bahrain5288 Posts

July 13 2009 19:06 GMT

#78

On July 14 2009 02:53 Carnac wrote:
I think players can be used on both days?

Would be lol if they couldn't XD

Disregard

China10252 Posts

July 13 2009 19:06 GMT

#79

Wow this format is confusing and unfair IMO. If the series is tied 1-1, a SINGLE ACE Match will decide the winner? Thats ridiculious, it just gives a huge chance for OZ to win the finals with their inconsistent lineup (Of course JD will make OZ look good).