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Initial_H.C.
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada560 Posts
July 13 2009 19:11 GMT
#81
Pretty soon they'll separate the Bo7 into 7 days...
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8142 Posts
July 13 2009 19:24 GMT
#82
I wonder if July will be playing for STX vs Khan. It's pretty clear that he has not been playing in PL at all to focus on the GSL, but STX would really benefit from his ZvP vs Khan.
Free Palestine
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 13 2009 19:35 GMT
#83
Combined with the fact that all the cool players will have to prep for multiple matches - expect Leta/Effort's OSL/MSL play to go down, should either of them play that far.

Playing this many matches really gives an edge to SKT1 and Lecaf, given that they get weeks to rest for it and stuff.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 13 2009 19:37 GMT
#84
On July 14 2009 04:35 thunk wrote:
Combined with the fact that all the cool players will have to prep for multiple matches - expect Leta/Effort's OSL/MSL play to go down, should either of them play that far.

Playing this many matches really gives an edge to SKT1 and Lecaf, given that they get weeks to rest for it and stuff.


CJ has other strong ace players apart from Effort
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 13 2009 20:08 GMT
#85
I think it should have been 2 Bo5s

I'll be amazed if some fans in the audience don't doze off in the Bo7s
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
July 13 2009 20:24 GMT
#86
Wow thats a brutal schedule on the players...having to prepare for 2 matches in 2 straight days, with the best players preparing for ACE match as well. That and toss in the fact that some of the maps aren't even the same both days, and you get a really heavy burden on the star players for each team. They should have at least given one day rest between the two matches to be more fair to the players.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8142 Posts
July 13 2009 20:38 GMT
#87
man whatever team has the fewest players in leagues is going to have the biggest advantage (so i think khan since all their players are out of the leagues right?).

Since all HITE players are in the same side of the bracket and guarenteed an OSL finalist, maybe the coaches will just make them practice exclusively for PL instead lol.
Free Palestine
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 20:41:16
July 13 2009 20:40 GMT
#88
On July 14 2009 05:38 Ideas wrote:
man whatever team has the fewest players in leagues is going to have the biggest advantage (so i think khan since all their players are out of the leagues right?).

Since all HITE players are in the same side of the bracket and guarenteed an OSL finalist, maybe the coaches will just make them practice exclusively for PL instead lol.


I think Hite and Khan have the best chances to win in the long run too, but fortunately they are going to get kicked out by CJ and STX before the heavy SL schedules (bo5s) start. :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 13 2009 20:42 GMT
#89
It's too bad for Khan because all STX has three zergs that are great at ZvP.
Arf
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8142 Posts
July 13 2009 20:44 GMT
#90
if khan takes it to ace against STX it will be such a rock-paper-scissors (at least moreso than most teams that play). any zerg from STX should take out jangbi/stork, but firebathero stands a good chance vs calm/hero/july, but kal is hugely favored over FBH but might not be as good a choice vs jangbi vs stork.

but in the end it'll probably be calm beating whoever khan sends out.
Free Palestine
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 13 2009 20:46 GMT
#91
On July 14 2009 05:44 Ideas wrote:firebathero stands a good chance vs calm/hero/july


Have you seen FBH's results against Zergs this year?
Zero fighting.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 13 2009 21:06 GMT
#92
Minimum 8 games and max 15 over the course of two days is insane.

This format really punishes oz though. Will Hwaesung actually make Jaedong practice for 5 proleague matches? Maybe they will field Hiya in the first bo7 ace match but this looks like hell.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8142 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 21:11:08
July 13 2009 21:10 GMT
#93
On July 14 2009 05:46 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 05:44 Ideas wrote:firebathero stands a good chance vs calm/hero/july


Have you seen FBH's results against Zergs this year?


lol i like to live in the past


but yeah you're right. Khan doesnt stand a chance if it goes to ace.
Free Palestine
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
July 13 2009 21:22 GMT
#94
Oz:
(Z)Jaedong, (T)HiyA, (T)Lomo, (P)BackHo, (Z)Killer, (P)Young/(P)Spear

Most likely lineup
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 13 2009 21:24 GMT
#95
On July 14 2009 06:22 konadora wrote:
Oz:
(Z)Jaedong, (T)HiyA, (T)Lomo, (P)BackHo, (Z)Killer, (P)Young/(P)Spear

Most likely lineup


(P)Young / (P)Spear / (P)PerfectMan
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 21:28:47
July 13 2009 21:28 GMT
#96
Clairvoyance: Calm will be STX's clutch ace player to save them if they go to that 1 game aggregate decider.

I'm so good :p
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 21:42:26
July 13 2009 21:32 GMT
#97
On July 14 2009 03:54 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2009 00:05 Klive5ive wrote:
On July 13 2009 23:54 Plexa wrote:
On July 13 2009 23:21 Klive5ive wrote:
This is clearly a fix. Oz must've bribed Kespa LOTS.
The other players only need to win 2 out of 10!

Just imagine:
+ Show Spoiler +
Day1:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz Fail
Game 5:
Game 6:

Oz lose the first day

Day2:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz fluke a win
Game 5: Oz fluke a win
Game 6: Jaedong wins
Closer: Jaedong wins
Ace: Jaedong wins.... Oz CLAIM TRIUMPHANT "TEAM" VICTORY

What? In this situation Oz would lose =/

.... I'm confused now.
You're implying they take aggregate score into account?

Exactly.
Show nested quote +
If set scores are tied, a single ace match will decide who advances to the next round.
Strongly implies that whomever has the better set score wins

Well yeah it does... if you also ignore the rest of the post.
What he actually said was:
On July 13 2009 22:02 GTR wrote:
So basically, each playoff will consist of two games for each of the teams, one on each channel, Bo7, normal format.

If set scores are tied, a single ace match will decide who advances to the next round.

Think about it; to count up each game you'd have to play all 6 matches regardless.
Otherwise it's unfair because some players wouldn't get to play.
But if you play all 6 games... it's not a Bo7.
Also if you're counting all the games anyway... what's the point in the decider on the first day?

When you think about... what you suggested doesn't make any sense at all.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
July 13 2009 21:36 GMT
#98
This is so damn confusing. Why can't they just split up the first 2 matches, then both cast the semifinals and finals. Wasn't that how they did it a year ago?
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
July 13 2009 21:43 GMT
#99
hahahahahaha, this is so rigged for STX

SKT1 and CJ are worthy opponents, but Samsung just doesn't have the depth to be a top contender in this format.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 21:51:08
July 13 2009 21:50 GMT
#100
I Love doing playoff lineup speculation.
Got the first one done
STX SouL vs Samsung KHAN

Set 1: Heartbreak Ridge (Z)July vs (P)JangBi
Get the momentum going in their respective team's direction with a strong player.

Set 2: Neo Medusa (Z)hero vs (Z)great
I thought of (Z)great first and matched him with (Z)hero for an even battle.

Set 3: Shades of Twilight (P)Shuttle vs (T)firebathero
(T)firebathero looking for TvT but finds a nice protoss present waiting for him.

Set 4: Neo Harmony (T)Notice vs (Z)oDin
Team needs to fill a spot so here they are.

Set 5: Outsider (T)Hwasin vs (P)Stork
Pretty balanced contenders here. Possibly game of the night

Set 6: Destination (P)Kal vs (T)FrOzean
Destination usually yields one of the teams strongest players so KHAN will send out a lamb to cheese.

Closer: Andromeda (Z)Calm vs (T)firebathero - I think (Z)Calm can take down either of the KHAN protoss on this map so either (Z)great or (T)firebathero would come out. I'm thinking they would prefer a veteran so FBH it is.
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