On June 07 2009 07:03 mcgriddle wrote: doesnt gomtv have one sided glass? In the scforall video of Idra before his gom game I think artosis goes inside the booth. So if gom has good booths....
I thought you could see out of that. Maybe Idra can answer?
Doesn't matter anyway because gom studio is always empty anyway as its more focused on broadcasting on tv/internet. So IF they would have onesided glass that would be WOW, gom > all.
its only empty for the 128 64 32 etc because theres games that are going to be onesieded i.e Flash/Jd/Bisu vs some scrub that no one wants to waste time watching
Ok finally watching the vod and nothing looks that weird. Isn't it normal to scout cross spot first after 14cc? I guess he does peek at the crowd at 2:38 which is near first rax timing... And he peeked at the crowd at 1:27 during his match against Flash. And he looked really nervous / guilty during the pause period. And if he is looking at the crowd during the two short periods he is on screen at the beginning of the game during this PL match, he must look at the crowd pretty often. And I don't see other players doing that as far as I can remember, though I haven't paid as close attention to it as I will in the future. One ironic thing I haven't seen anyone bring up is that fOrGG got DQed from a televised match once for using a banned glitch to cheese someone; I think it was Kal.
I wish the coaches had started getting pissed, taken off their jackets and ties, and gotten into the booths themselves to settle it the "old-fashioned" way. More yelling, pointing, and angry glances needed too.
if anyone here follows cs, this reminds of that ninja defuse spawn almost had during cpl (i think?) but the other team figured out it was going on because everyone around him was going crazy while he was defusing
Not suprising. Funny that it took this long to make an announcement.
There are many ways to cheat. Before the sound booth, you could hear certain noise in the audience when you are expecting a early cheese. If Leta was caught glancing out in the audience then he should get whatever punishment the rule allow. There is no reason to be looking into the crowd during the game. If there is no rules against it then too bad for KTF.
Someone else mention that Leta was doing the same thing too in the Flash game.
It could be said that both players can use the audience to their advantage, but in the cheese situation, it will be hurt the player going for the early cheese than the person defending it. It would kill a lot of the early strategy part of Starcraft.
On June 06 2009 20:33 Hammy wrote: Good job kona : ) At least Kespa didn't make an insane decision this time. Although, of course, if leta had indeed cheated he should have been disqualified. The booths clearly need some changes : )
I disagree with this. Its not the player's fault that they can see the audience. Is he not suppose to react appropriately when he realizes a proxy is occurring? There is no way you can put blame on the players for this.
On June 07 2009 08:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Ok finally watching the vod and nothing looks that weird. Isn't it normal to scout cross spot first after 14cc? I guess he does peek at the crowd at 2:38 which is near first rax timing... And he peeked at the crowd at 1:27 during his match against Flash. And he looked really nervous / guilty during the pause period. And if he is looking at the crowd during the two short periods he is on screen at the beginning of the game during this PL match, he must look at the crowd pretty often. And I don't see other players doing that as far as I can remember, though I haven't paid as close attention to it as I will in the future. One ironic thing I haven't seen anyone bring up is that fOrGG got DQed from a televised match once for using a banned glitch to cheese someone; I think it was Kal.
i think the same. And the KTF coach was in the audience, maybe he or someone in ktf team saw something more...
On June 07 2009 07:03 mcgriddle wrote: doesnt gomtv have one sided glass? In the scforall video of Idra before his gom game I think artosis goes inside the booth. So if gom has good booths....
I thought you could see out of that. Maybe Idra can answer?
you could see out the front, i wasnt paying much attention but i think the lighting made it really hard to see the audience the sound proofing was horrible though
Call me ignorant but I always assumed, and I think many others did as well, that the players could not see outside the booths.
I mean, this is a shocking revelation. Leta's incredibly suspicious eyes certainly don't seem to help the matter. I've never seen a programer eye the crowd like that, which is why I assumed the glass was one-way before.
On June 07 2009 12:52 Verilan wrote: Call me ignorant but I always assumed, and I think many others did as well, that the players could not see outside the booths.
I mean, this is a shocking revelation.
I agree with you. I mean, "star sense" has been made a little less valid by this.
Watching the video now, and I don't know if it's fair to say only Leta was looking nervous. To me it seemed like everyone in the room was nervous, which isn't much of a surprise considering how kespa is destroying everyone in 2009.
On June 07 2009 07:03 mcgriddle wrote: doesnt gomtv have one sided glass? In the scforall video of Idra before his gom game I think artosis goes inside the booth. So if gom has good booths....
I thought you could see out of that. Maybe Idra can answer?
you could see out the front, i wasnt paying much attention but i think the lighting made it really hard to see the audience the sound proofing was horrible though
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