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[idea]Limit practice time for progamers?

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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
May 29 2009 05:57 GMT
#1
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 29 2009 05:58 GMT
#2
how is kespa going to enforce it though
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
May 29 2009 05:59 GMT
#3
If they did this, then amateurs would become the best SC players and the magic would be lost
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
May 29 2009 06:02 GMT
#4
These huge amounts of practice and dedication are what make progamers progamers... basically its the same as if you were saying pro football players should stop practicing, or limit their practice.
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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
May 29 2009 06:05 GMT
#5
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
May 29 2009 06:06 GMT
#6
This is actually an interesting idea. But I think 5 is a little low. More like 8.6 would be good.

They should require the spare time to go towards education. Koreans would go for that (maybe some socialization too).
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
May 29 2009 06:08 GMT
#7
On May 29 2009 15:05 Jumperer wrote:
avg pro football players get paid much better than these guys and I doubt that they practice 15 hours a day everyday.


My step brother plays on a semi-pro handball team and i know for a fact that he excercises and practices for most of his waking hours... of course he takes time off to have fun but so do progamers. Also I think you're being rather condescending to e-sports... progamers work hard to develop their skill and that is what keeps us entertained.
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ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
May 29 2009 06:09 GMT
#8
On May 29 2009 14:57 Jumperer wrote:
after reading jaedong bisu interview I began to realize how ridiculous and unhealthy it is to play for 10+ hours a day. These poor koreans are ruining their life and all that for what? a freaking video game?


Its there job not just a freaking video game ;/ ;/
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
May 29 2009 06:09 GMT
#9
horrible idea to have any organization limit the amount of practice you can have.
and
impossible to enforce.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
May 29 2009 06:11 GMT
#10
How can they limit what progamers do in their free time though? Sure teams can be disallowed from forcing their players to practice 10 hours, but how can they stop players who desire to be great from practicing far beyond even that?
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DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
May 29 2009 06:11 GMT
#11
On May 29 2009 14:57 Jumperer wrote:
after reading jaedong bisu interview I began to realize how ridiculous and unhealthy it is to play for 10+ hours a day. These poor koreans are ruining their life and all that for what? a freaking video game?

if KESPA limits practice time to say 5 hours, I doubt nothing would change much for progamers. Bisu Jaedong Flash would still dominate. But now everyone have more free time to do something else with their life instead of PLAY all day.

this would also reward some of the old players like boxer who obviously cant play for 10+ hours a day everyday anymore. Foreigners should also benefit from this as well. Nony probably left korea because he doesnt want to play for 10+ hours a day.


I would obviously agree that doing ANYTHING over an extended period of time is unhealthy, no matter what it is. I might also agree with you that they are "ruining their lives over a freaking video game" because I would never want to dedicate my life to Starcraft such as they have. That's my opinion.

But I don't see the point in limiting their practicing time, it's their choice, they WANT to do this, KeSPA already dictates Starcraft, progamers don't need them dictating their lives either. 10+ hours of doing something you love in a day isn't really unheard of either, despite what your passion is. If you're going to limit it, I would say 8-10 hours would have to be the barrier because 5 is quite frankly much too low.

If Boxer can't play 10+ hours a day anymore to keep up with the level of play, then he just isn't fit for progaming anymore, a new generation so to speak I suppose. I don't know any top foreigners, but I'm sure quite a few of them put in A LOT of time into this game, I don't think that has much to do with the skill gap between Korea and foreigners compared to the fact that Starcraft is broadcasted on TV in Korea, which stresses how much bigger it is there than the rest of the world.

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DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
May 29 2009 06:15 GMT
#12
Yes because being respected and making a living is a waste of your life.
alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
May 29 2009 06:17 GMT
#13
They have a reason to practice over a "freaking game" (btw thats like saying tom brady wastes his time training for a "freaking sport" ur stupid). Anyways its only stupid that foreigners practice starcraft more than 4 hours a day. (if they do then they're losers with no life obviously). The koreans have a reason to since its their living. They get money if they do good. They're just doing their job. You cant tell them to stop doing that.
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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
May 29 2009 06:23 GMT
#14
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 06:30:43
May 29 2009 06:29 GMT
#15
LOL dude don't compare this to pitch counts in baseball. The two are not even in the same ballpark as far as their effect on players performance as they get older.

They aren't burnt out - they just got older. Mentally and physically a 20 year old is always going to be more capable of playing SC at the highest level than a 30+ year old is.
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
May 29 2009 06:35 GMT
#16
On May 29 2009 15:29 p4NDemik wrote:
LOL dude don't compare this to pitch counts in baseball. The two are not even in the same ballpark as far as their effect on players performance as they get older.

They aren't burnt out - they just got older. Mentally and physically a 20 year old is always going to be more capable of playing SC at the highest level than a 30+ year old is.


This.
Seriously, part of becoming older is losing physical dexterity... while their minds may still be just as capable as before, their hands simply aren't as capable as when they were younger. I'm assuming that OP also didn't know that 70+ year olds were weaker and slower than 30 year olds?
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Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
May 29 2009 06:39 GMT
#17
On May 29 2009 15:23 Jumperer wrote:
look at boxer, iloveoov, xellos, yellow, reach, nada, savior, July and most old school players. Why can't they play like they play back in the day? Why is their multitasking crappier than younger players? They are burnt out, that's why. It's not because the competition got ridiculously better.


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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
May 29 2009 06:41 GMT
#18
There wouldn't be a jaedong, flash, bisu, etc if there were a limit to practice time...
and plus, these kids would practice on their free time anyways. Good luck stopping that.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 06:48:53
May 29 2009 06:46 GMT
#19
I think the thing is if I were bisu I wouldn't want to play less even if there is a limit because playing more is how he stays on the top and he'll continue to do so. Artificial limits like this is not a good idea. Why do baseball pitcher have pitch count is because by pitching too much they get hurt and their performance decreases as a result of excessive practice and that balance is not something people can artificially impose. If progammers find that they playing better by practicing abit less since they get more rest, they WILL DO IT and it's not up to anybody else to decide what amount of practice produces the optimal skill gain.
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Summary:
Progamemrs practice so they play best
If practicing too much hurt them, they will notice sooner than we do and they'll start playing less.
It's up to them to decide what amount of playing is healthy
If they do play unhealthily, they will start to play more badly, and they will notice, and they'll start to practice less if they feel they're practicing for too long.
Again, up to them to decide.
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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
May 29 2009 06:47 GMT
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