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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
May 29 2009 21:32 GMT
#101
Limit practise time?

W
T
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I haven't heard anything that ridicilous. Top progamers would use their freetime practising then (if not, top10 would switch all the time becouse other players would practise more than them, that would lead to a point where gamers would have difficulties gaining fans-> progaming would be history).
Alizee-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States845 Posts
May 29 2009 22:16 GMT
#102
Best thread I've probably ever seen, playing 10+ hours a day is absolutely fucking retarded. Physical sports they practice half that and not everyday of the week, sure its physical so they can't but at the same time they're better than others. Lastly, the brain supposedly matures at 25 so don't start the bullshit about acting like if you're 30 you're a dumbed down caveman. If they enforced somewhat to have to go to school and not just have 13 year olds playing 11 hours a day, e-sports would be a whole lot better. Counter-strike players always practiced about 4-5 hours a day and were still the best. OP is smart, the nerds arguing against need to go get some fresh air.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
May 29 2009 22:17 GMT
#103
On May 29 2009 16:03 alt.tday wrote:
^ Thats the most retarded argument ever. More practice= slump. Are you stupid? In starcraft theres no such thing as a burnout. And older doesnt mean you suck more. Age has nothing to do with it. And practice is the reason Jaedong and Flash are where they are. The only reason Idra sux is cuz he's a foreigner.

no its because hes an arrogant nerd, grrr was a foreigner and you cant compare him to idra bc HE ACCOMPLISHED THINGS.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
May 29 2009 22:21 GMT
#104
On May 30 2009 07:17 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2009 16:03 alt.tday wrote:
^ Thats the most retarded argument ever. More practice= slump. Are you stupid? In starcraft theres no such thing as a burnout. And older doesnt mean you suck more. Age has nothing to do with it. And practice is the reason Jaedong and Flash are where they are. The only reason Idra sux is cuz he's a foreigner.

no its because hes an arrogant nerd, grrr was a foreigner and you cant compare him to idra bc HE ACCOMPLISHED THINGS.

Idra won ESWC.

That is accomplishing something.
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 22:35:38
May 29 2009 22:23 GMT
#105
They actually do this in the NCAA's and stuff to promote students studying and stuff (because you're supposed to be a student-athlete, not just a athlete). Like in certain sports you're only allowed to practice 25 hours/week or something.

The way they get around this is "optional" practices. They're really not optional, they just look that way. You're also supposed to lift weights on your own and do other physical-fitness stuff "on your own time". I suspect pro-teams would do something similar.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 29 2009 22:34 GMT
#106
On May 30 2009 07:17 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2009 16:03 alt.tday wrote:
^ Thats the most retarded argument ever. More practice= slump. Are you stupid? In starcraft theres no such thing as a burnout. And older doesnt mean you suck more. Age has nothing to do with it. And practice is the reason Jaedong and Flash are where they are. The only reason Idra sux is cuz he's a foreigner.

no its because hes an arrogant nerd, grrr was a foreigner and you cant compare him to idra bc HE ACCOMPLISHED THINGS.


Idra is a baller now who are you kidding. Idra is face raping man. He is finally beating pretty much everybody outside of korea which imo is a good sign that his level is rising ..
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
May 29 2009 22:42 GMT
#107
dont give a shit!

let these dumb progamers sit inside all day and ruin their lives!
hello there
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
May 29 2009 22:43 GMT
#108
They should enforce a minimum time in which they are forced to practice, a reasonable hour, and allow the players to pick if they want to go further or not.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 29 2009 22:45 GMT
#109
On May 29 2009 14:57 Jumperer wrote:
after reading jaedong bisu interview I began to realize how ridiculous and unhealthy it is to play for 10+ hours a day. These poor koreans are ruining their life and all that for what? a freaking video game?

if KESPA limits practice time to say 5 hours, I doubt nothing would change much for progamers. Bisu Jaedong Flash would still dominate. But now everyone have more free time to do something else with their life instead of PLAY all day.

this would also reward some of the old players like boxer who obviously cant play for 10+ hours a day everyday anymore. Foreigners should also benefit from this as well. Nony probably left korea because he doesnt want to play for 10+ hours a day.


Progamers = Job.

So basically you're telling them to limit practice time... but it's their JOB.
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-StrifeX-
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States529 Posts
May 29 2009 22:47 GMT
#110
No one cares. Pros are people who get paid for what they do (Basically same thing as a job). They sign the agreement so not much can be used to defend them. I mean come on you worried about pro StarCraft players when you have people putting in just as much hours in construction?

You do whatever it takes to get paid and hopefully you enjoy doing it.
auto.
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada35 Posts
May 29 2009 22:55 GMT
#111
its not exactly "just a video game" when it's your job
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 29 2009 23:00 GMT
#112
On May 30 2009 07:45 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2009 14:57 Jumperer wrote:
after reading jaedong bisu interview I began to realize how ridiculous and unhealthy it is to play for 10+ hours a day. These poor koreans are ruining their life and all that for what? a freaking video game?

if KESPA limits practice time to say 5 hours, I doubt nothing would change much for progamers. Bisu Jaedong Flash would still dominate. But now everyone have more free time to do something else with their life instead of PLAY all day.

this would also reward some of the old players like boxer who obviously cant play for 10+ hours a day everyday anymore. Foreigners should also benefit from this as well. Nony probably left korea because he doesnt want to play for 10+ hours a day.


Progamers = Job.

So basically you're telling them to limit practice time... but it's their JOB.


You work 16 hour days, weekends included?

I agree with the sentiment of the OP. Unfortunately there doesnt seem to be a realistic way to deal with it.
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 23:03:41
May 29 2009 23:00 GMT
#113
Why don't we drop the bullshit: "It's just a videogame".

It's a sport.


Sure, its unhealthy in the long run. So is many other sports.
If you want to be the best, get the cash and the fame you need to work for it.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
May 29 2009 23:10 GMT
#114
On May 30 2009 07:17 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2009 16:03 alt.tday wrote:
^ Thats the most retarded argument ever. More practice= slump. Are you stupid? In starcraft theres no such thing as a burnout. And older doesnt mean you suck more. Age has nothing to do with it. And practice is the reason Jaedong and Flash are where they are. The only reason Idra sux is cuz he's a foreigner.

no its because hes an arrogant nerd, grrr was a foreigner and you cant compare him to idra bc HE ACCOMPLISHED THINGS.

these days progaming requires much skill than at the grrr...'s time
many casual players of nowdays coulf beat grrr... with ease.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
May 29 2009 23:14 GMT
#115
On May 30 2009 08:00 StylishVODs wrote:
Why don't we drop the bullshit: "It's just a videogame".

It's a sport.


Sure, its unhealthy in the long run. So is many other sports.
If you want to be the best, get the cash and the fame you need to work for it.


I agree all the way with Stylish.
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amoxicilline
Profile Joined August 2005
France1124 Posts
May 29 2009 23:18 GMT
#116
Problem is in progaming is they aren't rich for the most part of them .

And they spent years playing all day long a game that will be obsolete in a few years , while not studying anything . I'm wondering what will they become later , I can see here TV shows like " Once I was a progamer , now I'm sleeping in the street" .

I hontesly thing they're wasting their lives , even for all the love I've got for this game , and all the hours I did spend on it or watching these guys' vods.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17920 Posts
May 29 2009 23:20 GMT
#117
On May 30 2009 08:10 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 07:17 Raithed wrote:
On May 29 2009 16:03 alt.tday wrote:
^ Thats the most retarded argument ever. More practice= slump. Are you stupid? In starcraft theres no such thing as a burnout. And older doesnt mean you suck more. Age has nothing to do with it. And practice is the reason Jaedong and Flash are where they are. The only reason Idra sux is cuz he's a foreigner.

no its because hes an arrogant nerd, grrr was a foreigner and you cant compare him to idra bc HE ACCOMPLISHED THINGS.

these days progaming requires much skill than at the grrr...'s time
many casual players of nowdays coulf beat grrr... with ease.

i doubt it, even back then they had incredible micro and macro(not amazing macro but still pretty good)
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
May 29 2009 23:20 GMT
#118
lol I read the first page and I gotta say I don't understand where they fuck Jumperer gets his ideas XD
Go ahead, limit Bisu's practise time to 5-hours a day, while others can play twice as much. Let's see how long Bisu stays on top.
And come on, Boxer has NEVER been as great on multitasking than the top players of these days.
Actually Boxer is better than he was on his #1 times.
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
May 29 2009 23:23 GMT
#119
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DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
May 29 2009 23:29 GMT
#120
On May 30 2009 08:23 Jumperer wrote:
Those B teamers are screwed for life. getting paid 10 cent a day and having to practice 50 hours a day or get hit with a baseball bat ala old KTF coach.


All their expenses are paid for by the team sponsor and most of the money they make is probably getting saved up. And lots of the retired progamers end up casting or coaching, so its not like they don't get anything out of it.
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