• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:12
CEST 21:12
KST 04:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League2Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 VPN experiences vespene.gg — BW replays in browser (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1496 users

Flash, Bisu and Jaedong BO Stats - Page 5

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 16 2009 19:46 GMT
#81
Its just JD style BoX.. I waws surprised at how low Flash's comeback ratio was.. and Bisu's is still pretty decent, but JD is the master of comebacks undisputed.
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 16 2009 19:52 GMT
#82
On August 16 2009 23:27 meegrean wrote:
Jaedong's God Mode tends to only activate right after losing a first game. Think of it as some kind of adrenaline rush


It's because he remembers to upgrade adrenal glands.

I gotta say, it's really satisfying to be a Jaedong fan when you read his answers in interviews:
-It seems that many players have finally grasped an understanding of your play.
▲I can almost feel their team's analysis of my play in my opponents' strategies. However, this is just another motivation for me to elevate my play to the next level. As they work hard to beat me, I must work even harder to become an even better player. Although I feel pressured sometimes, this pressure is what is pushing me to become the best. Working hard to become a perpetually strong player is very important to me.


This to me says that he's never complacent. He's aware that others are getting better and others are studying his play and countering it thusly. And he believes that this is just motivation to play even better starcraft! Unbelievable! A lot of great players just become too used to their dominance and too confident in their abilities to ever adjust their play. I think it might have been George St.Pierre that said you only become a true champion once you've defended your title. And I think JD understands this more than any other player!
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
August 16 2009 20:04 GMT
#83
On August 17 2009 03:20 Nick_54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2009 23:28 Nevuk wrote:
I'm actually more impressed by Bisu's comeback ratio than by JD's.


Same here, cuz I've never heard of it. I'm surprised Jaedong's stats are still so high after the losses to Effort and Calm this season.


Well, he lost to effort and calm late in the turnaments, so he won a lot of matches before that. The explenation is simple as that.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 10 2010 08:10 GMT
#84
Bumping this as I have just updated it with the last 6 months of games.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
July 10 2010 08:14 GMT
#85
Kim Taek Yong Normal win of won matches: 43/55 78.2%
nice!
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
July 10 2010 08:41 GMT
#86
I dont understand when you say "Comeback wins to won matches ratio", what do you count as a match were a player has comeback?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
AleC
Profile Joined December 2009
332 Posts
July 10 2010 08:49 GMT
#87
On July 10 2010 17:41 Scaramanga wrote:
I dont understand when you say "Comeback wins to won matches ratio", what do you count as a match were a player has comeback?

On May 15 2009 03:30 Ota Solgryn wrote:

I’ve went through all their official games and have made some statistics about it. Below comebacks are where a player loses his first game and then goes on to win the match.
Normal win is where the player wins the first game, and goes on to win the match.


butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
July 10 2010 08:51 GMT
#88
On July 10 2010 17:41 Scaramanga wrote:
I dont understand when you say "Comeback wins to won matches ratio", what do you count as a match were a player has comeback?


Probably losing the first set in a Bo3 and the first two in a bo5
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
July 10 2010 09:04 GMT
#89
Thanks guys i just didnt read the opening paragraphs, so interested by stats
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 10 2010 09:12 GMT
#90
Actually I count it as JUST the first game. So I BO5 a comeback is here regarded as LWWW or LLWWW. I did this because JD has ALOT of those LWWW and these statistics were originally based on JD "ability" to do that.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Polar_Bear
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany55 Posts
July 10 2010 10:46 GMT
#91
So WLLWW isn't a comeback!?
I mean it's a rare case, but happened e.g. in Boxer vs. Garimto back in the days.
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
July 11 2010 04:48 GMT
#92
haha I was kind of hoping this thread was about their Build Order stats, as in what BOs they tend to use the most and how often they win using different opening BOs =p
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
NobleHelium
Profile Joined May 2010
United States82 Posts
July 12 2010 02:27 GMT
#93
I think an interesting stat you should add here is how often each player loses a match after winning the first game.
DaisyP
Profile Joined August 2009
United States47 Posts
July 12 2010 02:45 GMT
#94
It might be interesting to see the probability that these players comeback, given the opportunity to do so (i. e. after getting put in a comeback situation, how often do these players rise to the occasion?)
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
July 12 2010 03:05 GMT
#95
On July 12 2010 11:45 DaisyP wrote:
It might be interesting to see the probability that these players comeback, given the opportunity to do so (i. e. after getting put in a comeback situation, how often do these players rise to the occasion?)


He did that...?
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
NobleHelium
Profile Joined May 2010
United States82 Posts
July 12 2010 03:10 GMT
#96
No, he didn't. The stats simply show the percentage of wins that are comebacks and not comebacks. They don't show the percentage of successful comebacks out of comeback attempts/opportunities.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 03:19:27
July 12 2010 03:18 GMT
#97
I was just wondering yesterday how often players win after losing the first game. Very cool.

Can you separate it for bo3 and bo5? I'm interested specifically in what the stats look like for a 5 game series.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
July 12 2010 03:37 GMT
#98
These are some really interesting strats. Perhaps it shows that JD wins the games he has to win (more so then the others). Regardless, I am sure this took alot of work. Thanks!
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 12 2010 04:48 GMT
#99
Really cool. Would be nice if was updated so it includes recent months as well. Also as heyoka suggested, splitting it into bo3 and bo5 would be interesting.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 05:16:08
July 12 2010 05:15 GMT
#100
Interesting. Flash has been so dominant that few dominated him first these past few months.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#53
RotterdaM1189
TKL 415
IndyStarCraft 238
SteadfastSC200
BRAT_OK 123
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1189
TKL 415
IndyStarCraft 238
SteadfastSC 200
MaxPax 173
BRAT_OK 123
UpATreeSC 100
ProTech92
JuggernautJason55
Vindicta 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 43097
ggaemo 255
Dewaltoss 136
firebathero 124
Soulkey 111
Mind 45
Movie 26
Dota 2
LuMiX2
Counter-Strike
byalli467
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu371
Other Games
Grubby4489
summit1g3989
FrodaN2061
fl0m1794
ceh9575
Hui .223
C9.Mang0191
ArmadaUGS120
KnowMe116
Trikslyr57
MindelVK10
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL518
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 174
• StrangeGG 38
• Reevou 7
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV431
League of Legends
• Jankos3421
Other Games
• imaqtpie1202
• Shiphtur240
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 48m
Kung Fu Cup
15h 48m
GSL
1d 14h
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
4 days
IPSL
4 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.