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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 10 2009 04:33 GMT
#201
Maybe Protoss can get an early group of like, 5 zealots to go rape the shit out of the CC?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 10 2009 04:33 GMT
#202
On May 09 2009 06:27 SuperJongMan wrote:
Fuck this map.
Protoss will never beat a zerg on this map.
a protoss already beat a zerg on this map
guemchi shit on thezerg
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
May 10 2009 04:41 GMT
#203
On May 10 2009 13:33 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 06:27 SuperJongMan wrote:
Fuck this map.
Protoss will never beat a zerg on this map.
a protoss already beat a zerg on this map
guemchi shit on thezerg

lolol
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Xela
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada203 Posts
May 10 2009 04:55 GMT
#204
On May 09 2009 05:56 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
I think it's silly how there are little white patches on the ground showing you where to place rax/depot or forge/gateway for a wall-in; there's even one showing where your natural expansion goes -_-

Yea what a silly thing, not like progamers knew every placement on every map by heart....

On topic, I can see the CC becoming a very big issue, you can't just send in a few Zealots or marines at the beginning because of speed lings so the best time to destroy it would be mid game a little before the Hive tech.

Problems:
1) Zerg can just contain with lurker/lings to buy time and eventually get the queen before you can move out of your base.
2) Turtling terrans like flash waiting for upgrades to push won't be viable. I think that can lead to more MnM from the terran wich is not a bad thing tough.

The only race really having problems will be Protoss tough, the game is not made for protoss to handle Infested terrans, you would need to be too much careful with zealots when moving around. In TvZ, even if the zerg get the Infest, marines+vultures+tanks makes the sucide pretty much impossible if the terran is a bit careful.


Whatever happens, it'll be very entertaining to watch zerg play on this map.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 10 2009 05:07 GMT
#205
Damn infested terrans are sickk
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
May 10 2009 05:55 GMT
#206
Yea I don't think TvZ will be very much different if the Z manages to get the CC. But ZvP, yea :\ In the case that it would be pretty much too hard to kill the CC in time, would sair reaver be more viable?

I mean, standard PvZ seems like suicide if you don't play perfectly, and sair reaver seems to be less of a pain. But one error, no more reavers, gg.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 10 2009 06:25 GMT
#207
Reavers from Sair/Reaver might be able to give P the firepower needed to kill CC.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 10 2009 06:28 GMT
#208
On May 10 2009 14:55 CynanMachae wrote:
Yea I don't think TvZ will be very much different if the Z manages to get the CC. But ZvP, yea :\ In the case that it would be pretty much too hard to kill the CC in time, would sair reaver be more viable?

I mean, standard PvZ seems like suicide if you don't play perfectly, and sair reaver seems to be less of a pain. But one error, no more reavers, gg.

Seems no different from rines vs lurkers
Now protoss will have to watch their asses on this new map
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-10 08:06:17
May 10 2009 06:41 GMT
#209
Quite honestly, although it's very entertaining to watch, I think people are getting over excited about Infested Terran.

Even with a free gold plated CC, one of the major flaws of the Infested Terran is, imo, it's price. 100mins/100gas, that's the price of a mutalisk, and even in the hands of a pro, it's extremely easy to waste them. So unless you manage to kill 10 marines or 5 zealots with 1 hit, killing 2 zealots with 1 Infested Terran isnt that much of a good trade.

I see Infested Terran more like a bonus we'll see here and there on Holy World (mineral line drops), but I doubt they will be game breaking very often.

(They should make a map with free nuke silos and covert ops addons in every base, maybe we'll see nukes more often)
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 10 2009 06:59 GMT
#210
On May 10 2009 15:41 lepape wrote:
Quite honestly, although it's very entertaining to watch, I think people are getting over excited about Infested Terran.

Even with a free gold plated CC, one of the major flaws of the Infested Terran is, imo, it's price. 100mins/100gas, that's the price of a mutalisk, and even in the hands of a pro, it's extremely easy to waste them. So unless you manage to kill 10 marines or 5 zealots with 1 hit, killings 2 zealots with 1 Infested Terran isnt that much of a good trade.

I see Infested Terran more like a bonus we'll see here and there on Holy World (mineral line drops), but I doubt they will be game breaking very often.

(They should make a map with free nuke silos and covert ops addons in every base, maybe we'll see nukes more often)



Infested terrans cost 50 minerals...
Hi.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 10 2009 07:04 GMT
#211
+ Show Spoiler +
After Zero versus Kal, I bet more maps in the future will have neutral CC's to give Zergs another tool in this current era of Zerg dominance.

That Zero/Kal micro was intense. Mentally, after Kal saw that first Infested Terran, I felt that he mentally just crumbled.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
May 10 2009 07:25 GMT
#212
On May 10 2009 15:59 iCCup.d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2009 15:41 lepape wrote:
Quite honestly, although it's very entertaining to watch, I think people are getting over excited about Infested Terran.

Even with a free gold plated CC, one of the major flaws of the Infested Terran is, imo, it's price. 100mins/100gas, that's the price of a mutalisk, and even in the hands of a pro, it's extremely easy to waste them. So unless you manage to kill 10 marines or 5 zealots with 1 hit, killings 2 zealots with 1 Infested Terran isnt that much of a good trade.

I see Infested Terran more like a bonus we'll see here and there on Holy World (mineral line drops), but I doubt they will be game breaking very often.

(They should make a map with free nuke silos and covert ops addons in every base, maybe we'll see nukes more often)



Infested terrans cost 50 minerals...



no
a
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 10 2009 07:45 GMT
#213
On May 10 2009 16:25 SaveYourSavior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2009 15:59 iCCup.d(O.o)a wrote:
On May 10 2009 15:41 lepape wrote:
Quite honestly, although it's very entertaining to watch, I think people are getting over excited about Infested Terran.

Even with a free gold plated CC, one of the major flaws of the Infested Terran is, imo, it's price. 100mins/100gas, that's the price of a mutalisk, and even in the hands of a pro, it's extremely easy to waste them. So unless you manage to kill 10 marines or 5 zealots with 1 hit, killings 2 zealots with 1 Infested Terran isnt that much of a good trade.

I see Infested Terran more like a bonus we'll see here and there on Holy World (mineral line drops), but I doubt they will be game breaking very often.

(They should make a map with free nuke silos and covert ops addons in every base, maybe we'll see nukes more often)



Infested terrans cost 50 minerals...



no


Woah I just checked... when did that change?
Hi.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 10 2009 07:47 GMT
#214
+ Show Spoiler +
In Zero vs Kal, I saw a single infested terran blow up like 3 cannons in one shot. They can blow up an entire group of templar. They are like walking scourges on steroids that deal more splash than a reaver. I think they are pretty ridiculous.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 10 2009 08:21 GMT
#215
On May 10 2009 16:04 thunk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
After Zero versus Kal, I bet more maps in the future will have neutral CC's to give Zergs another tool in this current era of Zerg dominance.

That Zero/Kal micro was intense. Mentally, after Kal saw that first Infested Terran, I felt that he mentally just crumbled.


+ Show Spoiler +
Jesus christ, besides maybe the killing of three cannons at once the infested terrans did NOTHING that regular hydralinglurk couldn't have. Replay that game without the infested terrans and ZerO would still have won due to the threat of his drop-play and his fucking unreal hydralisk control, granted he might have lost another hydra or two
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
May 10 2009 08:32 GMT
#216
Why can't protoss just do what Free did vs Hoejja on Destination and make a big mid-game army before ITs?
Jaedong
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51480 Posts
May 10 2009 08:56 GMT
#217
Infested Terran is 100 Minerals, 50 Gas.

Source: http://classic.battle.net/scc/zerg/units/iterran.shtml
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professorjoak
Profile Joined July 2008
318 Posts
May 10 2009 09:11 GMT
#218
I remember seeing some really old battle report (Sports Seoul Tournament 2000?) where some foreign Starcraft players visiting Korea were having a lunchtime discussion and it was revealed that Gadianton didn't know that infested terrans even existed despite having won a former PGL season.
"The different branches of Arithmetic -- Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision." --Lewis Carroll
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
May 10 2009 13:28 GMT
#219
Can we have neutral control towers and machine shops plz?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
May 10 2009 13:29 GMT
#220
On May 10 2009 22:28 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Can we have neutral control towers and machine shops Comsat Stations and Nuclear Silos plz?

Fixed
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