Hey all UC (University of California) students, I'm interested in starting up a BW organization. My ultimate aim would be to create something like a UC Proleague maybe, where each school would have a team and maybe once or twice per week we could run clanwars proleague style, etc etc.
Mission Goals 1) To organize SC communities in each UC campus.
2) To organize actual teams that will compete against one another in a league of UC's.
I've got an email list of about 20-30 players at UCSD so we can at least form our own team. I'll be sending out an email to everyone later this week about Starcraft related stuff and I'll be sure to include you in it and mention this.
I'm kind of interested, except for the fact that I'm really bad, and I don't want to be the person to organize a local chapter. I'd love to see this happen though!
Shit I saw UC and around where I live UC = University of Cincinnati, so I was like "holy shit a lan event I might actually be able to go to for once!?!?!" BIG letdown.
On January 19 2009 17:22 []p4NDemik[] wrote: Shit I saw UC and around where I live UC = University of Cincinnati, so I was like "holy shit a lan event I might actually be able to go to for once!?!?!" BIG letdown.
XD Westside! lol I haven't been to any lans so don't feel bad. :D
On January 19 2009 17:29 blabber wrote: gogo UCI. Where are all our Koreans???
some other TL.net people I know that go here... GHOSTCLAW (formerly waterdragon), Ghostclaws, Panorama
Yea, apparently UCI has a lot of Starcraft players.
I'm not in college yet but Merced/Riverside might not have enough players but there's a pretty good chance there's a strong contingent at Berkeley, LA, Irvine, and SD. I don't know how many SC players there are at Santa Cruz, Davis, and Santa Barbara. It seems there are 1-2 players at UCSB.
Repping riverside here, it would be really cool if we have a scene I don't know about, but I don't know what the chances of that are. I've got a group of friends that are enthusiastic, if not particularly talented (including myself >_> ) and i'm sure we'd be down for this.
On January 19 2009 17:59 krazymunky wrote: woot woot anteaters. GHOSTCLAW raped me recently. i hate him :p he says he sucks but he owns me and all i saw him do was play sc last year :p
Wayne, is that you? He played a lot of Fastest, not pure 1v1 SC =p. Sadly, I'm like 50-50 with him these days. He's certainly gotten better these days.
On January 19 2009 17:59 krazymunky wrote: woot woot anteaters. GHOSTCLAW raped me recently. i hate him :p he says he sucks but he owns me and all i saw him do was play sc last year :p
Wayne, is that you? He played a lot of Fastest, not pure 1v1 SC =p. Sadly, I'm like 50-50 with him these days. He's certainly gotten better these days.
WHO ARE YOOUUU??!!! possibly his brother??? lol yeah he did play fastest a lot... and then the occasional 1v1 and get raped by a korean or hacker (which i saw live xD)
Yea, I'm his brother, you probably remember me from when you visited back then. He probably just claimed it was a Korean or hacker =p.
We should stop derailing the thread. In conclusion, I'm rooting against UC Irvine whenever Ghostclaw is playing and think this is a really cool idea Xeris. I hope it works.
I actually go to U.C. Davis also, well the law school anyways. Lately I have been playing a lot of SC on LAN at my house. It usually me verse 2 other guys b/c they are beginners but whatever its all fun. If you guys want to play sometime next weekend or in the evening, your welcome to do it at my place, just pm me.
I know there are shitloads of people but I need people at each school who are proactive about organizing shit not just like "if someone else does the work I'd be happy to be a part of it" .
On January 19 2009 17:22 []p4NDemik[] wrote: Shit I saw UC and around where I live UC = University of Cincinnati, so I was like "holy shit a lan event I might actually be able to go to for once!?!?!" BIG letdown.
heh I'm from cincinnati and thought the same thing too. Anyway, I applied to UCSD, UCLA, and UCSF for grad school in neuroscience and so far have gotten interviews with UCSD and UCLA. I'm shit at starcraft, but it would be cool to get in touch with the community down there through something like this if I end up at any of those schools.
I can guarantee there are a bunch of closet BW nerds at all the UC's ... it's just a matter of finding them. The skill level isn't all too important - it's all mostly for fun anyways... O_O~
On January 20 2009 04:38 Xeris wrote: I can guarantee there are a bunch of closet BW nerds at all the UC's ... it's just a matter of finding them. The skill level isn't all too important - it's all mostly for fun anyways... O_O~
Yep, I cant believe there are so many good players in UCSD's winter game fest.
I won't be able to do much being a white boy without any real starcraft skills, but I'm sure that we'll prevail with our massive Korean advantage over our less-diverse sister schools. They already got the B-Boy scene locked down.
On January 19 2009 18:15 pandabearguy wrote: Repping riverside here, it would be really cool if we have a scene I don't know about, but I don't know what the chances of that are. I've got a group of friends that are enthusiastic, if not particularly talented (including myself >_> ) and i'm sure we'd be down for this.
Yo, I go to UCR as well.
I know of a lot of Korean fobs who play.
If this seriously goes through, I would be willing to try to organize a team. I suck as a player myself, but I think organizing would be fun and would give me something to do in this dusty shithole.
On January 20 2009 03:33 Braintricks wrote: Maybe a UCSB, UCR, UCM, UCD, etc. should be apart of a team, because we're not likely going to have as many players as Berkaderk and LA
Trust me, UCR has more than enough players if I can convince them to play.
I am at UCD as well...I have played exactly two games in the last 12 months though. I suppose playing people in real life in LANs would be enough fun that I would start again.
And yes alums better be able to play! So long as they still live in their respective towns anyway.
i figure this might be mildly relevant even though i don't go to UC: college starcraft league http://www.cstarleague.com/ edit: from what i understand they have shit going with princeton and mit
I'm at SB. I'm not sure how competitive we would be though - the average level at the campus LAN was like D---. I'd be willing to participate, but organizing something is too much work for me.
On January 19 2009 19:25 goliathoffline wrote: I go to UC davis, anyone from there? lol
On January 19 2009 20:02 dka wrote: Hey, I'm from UC Davis too! I haven't played sc for a while now, so I can't promise anything. But count me in if this does happen.
On January 19 2009 20:07 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: I actually go to U.C. Davis also, well the law school anyways. Lately I have been playing a lot of SC on LAN at my house. It usually me verse 2 other guys b/c they are beginners but whatever its all fun. If you guys want to play sometime next weekend or in the evening, your welcome to do it at my place, just pm me.
On January 20 2009 05:56 RekcaH wrote: I go to UCD too.
On January 20 2009 07:29 maleorderbride wrote: I am at UCD as well...I have played exactly two games in the last 12 months though. I suppose playing people in real life in LANs would be enough fun that I would start again.
And yes alums better be able to play! So long as they still live in their respective towns anyway.
On January 20 2009 08:50 CDRdude wrote: I'm at Davis. Is that six of us so far?
On January 20 2009 08:57 Titusmaster6 wrote: Man this is so sick. It sucks I dont have time to play right now, but I will definitely be following this. UCD!
On January 20 2009 09:06 foureyedwonder wrote: +1 Davis
Wow, that's 8 players from UCD, including myself! Even if we don't manage to form a starleague, we could hopefully play some LAN's (or watch starleagues?) at SOB_Maj_Brian's house. I'm a really bad player, but I'm pretty sure most people are, and we can all improve. There are a lot more SCers here than I thought! I'm busy a lot, but I can probably send out some PMs later.
On January 19 2009 16:20 semioldguy wrote: I've got an email list of about 20-30 players at UCSD so we can at least form our own team. I'll be sending out an email to everyone later this week about Starcraft related stuff and I'll be sure to include you in it and mention this.
told you there are a bunch of people I'll create a list of people who have stated interest in being organizers and will contact you guys once I get one from each school.
ok please check my first post... I've updated so far with 3 people willing to do some organizing. I'm looking for people from SC , SB , Berkeley , and Davis .
you should probably try to talk to the cstarleague people though, they're trying to run proleague style games for all USA colleges (i am personally trying to get a team together for Auburn University)... and my understanding is that they have some connection to the sc2gg commentators (yeah i know they're terrible but they're still commentators) and they can get a live stream up
wouldn't a larger usa college league be better than just a cali one? of course the cstarleague people may not be as competent and probably haven't been involved in leagues before like you have Xeris... i don't really know them, just that people out of princeton and mit are involved...
also with UC you guys have a much higher local concentration of talent than most colleges do and you guys could probably manage some offline stuff too as opposed to just online
2) To organize actual teams that will compete against one another in a league of UC's.
So, the actual teams will have 4-5 per clanwar, the roster can be however many, but HOPEFULLY, the actual communities formed in each school will be much larger, and grow.
If this is successful, then I'll consider branching out slowly but surely, but I felt as if starting with UC's will provide a somewhat more centralized population that I already know consist of quite a bit of Starcraft players...
On January 20 2009 13:22 CDRdude wrote: I love how UC Merced isn't even mentioned on the list of school organizers. Yeah, Merced, how do you like that?
On January 20 2009 12:38 Xeris wrote: ok Centric .
Ideally 9-10 people , realistically 5-6 ? does that sound reasonable?
I mean if we do it proleague style, it will be 4-5 people max per clanwar or something, the entire team roster would be the discretion of the school.
On January 20 2009 12:41 Xeris wrote: There are two specific goals:
1) To organize SC communities in each UC campus.
2) To organize actual teams that will compete against one another in a league of UC's.
So, the actual teams will have 4-5 per clanwar, the roster can be however many, but HOPEFULLY, the actual communities formed in each school will be much larger, and grow.
If this is successful, then I'll consider branching out slowly but surely, but I felt as if starting with UC's will provide a somewhat more centralized population that I already know consist of quite a bit of Starcraft players...
Between five and ten is perfectly reasonable, yeah. It might be a challenge to get more than say...four players together consistently for matches and whatnot, though...unless I play, but that'll be an autoloss for my school. hehe. jk. Seriously, though, I guess that bridge will have to be crossed only when it's encountered...
I'll make some calls during the week.
On January 20 2009 13:22 CDRdude wrote: I love how UC Merced isn't even mentioned on the list of school organizers. Yeah, Merced, how do you like that?
My brother and two of his D+/C- friends go to UC Berkeley... Berkeley LAN also had some pretty strong players, I think phase goes there and he is Terran (dunno rank though), Nimue and Heathen too? Not sure, but there are lots of Starcraft players at Berkeley
On January 20 2009 12:38 Xeris wrote: ok Centric .
Ideally 9-10 people , realistically 5-6 ? does that sound reasonable?
I mean if we do it proleague style, it will be 4-5 people max per clanwar or something, the entire team roster would be the discretion of the school.
Realistically, 5-6 doesn't sound too farfetched. I can name 3-4 off the top of my head right now, and I'm sure if we cast a net out we'd find more. I think 9-10 is definitely pushing it, but hey that's why it's an ideal right?
well, i doubt i would be able to find enough players here who would be able to commit to this. although if i could somehow convince day[9] to play every single game for us we would be unstoppable!
Am I the only UCBerkeley here? I'd have to admit that I just got back into SC and I'm only D+ quality but if anyone else out there wants to plan something count me in:
no ... I'd like Berkeley though because I know there are a ton of people.
But anyways moving along - is it possible that there is someone out there who could make a rough website or something for this? If not I could look into just making a forum or something, but a website would be better.
Anyways, if anyone wishes to help out in this respect please PM me and we can talk about it and I can tell you what I'd be looking for ideally.
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for the website basically this is what I envision (to start):
1) A place where team rosters, the clanwar draws, league schedule, and results can be posted
2) A forum for discussion, and each team can have their own forum, etc...
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so ya, if anyone wants to help out here... let me know (pm me!)
yeah I was thinking about just making an A team and a B team where the A team will play the competitive games and the B team is just open to anyone and they can play amongst themselves and maybe try to get onto the A team. Not sure, though, maybe it'll instead just be one big team so everyone gets a chance to play a game
also, anyone who goes to UCI and wants to be on the team... just post or PM me or something and you're in... I'll also look at previous posts made in this topic
alright here's a list of UCI people that have posted in this topic: ndralcasid krazymunky Plutonium FabledIntegral crescendo foolsmate GHOSTCLAW Ghostclaws jjkxdummy
On January 21 2009 12:33 blabber wrote: alright here's a list of UCI people that have posted in this topic: ndralcasid krazymunky Plutonium FabledIntegral crescendo foolsmate
rofl, thanks krazymunky. Yes, i'm at uci. blabber should know that >.>
although i'm not going to be good enough for the a team. I'm perfectly happy to help organizing, and blabber and krazymunky know how to contact me on that.
If you really want a website, I have time to help with that as well, although I'm probably just about the worst person for that job.
I am probably the only person at UC Merced who plays StarCraft.
Ok, maybe not, but the fact there is a UC-wide league that might go down might get some more interest.
I'm a D/D- ranked player on ICCUP, improving steadily, but I don't have quite the time to master all the fine nuances of a build order, then figure out which ones work on which maps.
On January 21 2009 14:16 GHOSTCLAW wrote: rofl, thanks krazymunky. Yes, i'm at uci. blabber should know that >.>
although i'm not going to be good enough for the a team. I'm perfectly happy to help organizing, and blabber and krazymunky know how to contact me on that.
If you really want a website, I have time to help with that as well, although I'm probably just about the worst person for that job.
right you just haven't said anything in this topic yet so I didn't want to just assume you wanted in ^^
and maybe if the real Ghostclaws would stop lurking..
My name is Nimue and I've been pretty active around the UC Berkeley Starcraft scene. I would be pretty interested in this UC Proleague thing. We already have an almost-functioning website:
Actually, the website is for my class. UC Berkeley has a class this semester on the Game Theory, with applications to Starcraft that I'm teaching. If anyone wants to get into the theory to understand at a higher level, you should all check it out.
I will be posting vids on youtube too ... I think ... if I can figure out how to do that.
ah screw it ... I'll take the head of the UCB slot.
I have a perfect vantage point. I can direct my class towards whatever events are happening that week; we meet twice a week. I can offer extra credit and stuff for participating in your events.
My name is Nimue and I've been pretty active around the UC Berkeley Starcraft scene. I would be pretty interested in this UC Proleague thing. We already have an almost-functioning website:
Actually, the website is for my class. UC Berkeley has a class this semester on the Game Theory, with applications to Starcraft that I'm teaching. If anyone wants to get into the theory to understand at a higher level, you should all check it out.
I will be posting vids on youtube too ... I think ... if I can figure out how to do that.
-- Nimue
Holy shit. Nimue where can I join this DeCal? I looked on DeCal.org and couldn't find it. Right now I'm signed up for an LOTR DeCal but after finding this out just now I hope its not too late. It's Thursday noon, hopefully I can still join! Get back to me asap at richieplx@gmail.com. Thanks! /crosses fingers
I go to UCD and I might be interested (just not during testing weeks, damn quarter system). PM me for my contact because I don't check TL inbox much. Thanks!
I think we can put up a vote in a day or two... I don't want all-kill style because some schools have really imbalance people (I.E, UCLA has Blind who's like B-... UCSD has some really strong players) could probably beat the entire teams of other schools and I want something that will involve a greater number of people, not just who has the best 1-2 players...
But I think a good debate would be whether or not 2v2 should be included. I personally enjoy 2v2 and think it adds an interesting dynamic to clanwars so I'd support 2v2 being included. Anyways.
Poll: Which Format? (Vote): Oldschool Proleague (with 2v2) (Vote): Newer proleague (no 2v2)
I also vote no 2v2. It's easier to find five players than six. It also means that any five can play, other than waiting for those two players who specialize in 2v2.
I'm sure we could make the rule so that you can reuse 1v1 players for 2v2. Personally I'd rather have it. It'll make the matches much more fun and diverse, I think.
You could do it in the style of the MBC-OGN derby; all-kill format, but a team can play the 2v2 card where after the team game, both teams have to send out new players. Overall though, I think the old proleague style is best, so that lesser players can get playtime.
On January 23 2009 12:28 PH wrote: I'm sure we could make the rule so that you can reuse 1v1 players for 2v2. Personally I'd rather have it. It'll make the matches much more fun and diverse, I think.
I see where you're coming from, but seeing as how the map pool isn't being refreshed for 2v2 (and I'd get sick of watching 2v2 on Python or one of the bigger maps over and over) I don't think that's realistic.
That's true...but I mean, I think there's more than enough 2v2 maps to choose from already. And if nothing else, I'm sure mapping communities over at like BWM, panschk, and warboards would be happy to put one together as a community effort if we asked.
Anyway...I just made a round of phone calls, and I have like a good 7-9 players who are very excited about this...so UCR is set for now. (:
On January 23 2009 14:56 blabber wrote: I have nothing against having 2v2 in the future, but let's just get the basics down first before going into more complicated stuff (like 2v2)
i got everyone's contact info so I'm going to hope to hold a meeting with all the organizers this week or next week so we can hammer out all the details then we can get rolling.
On January 26 2009 10:05 Xeris wrote: i got everyone's contact info so I'm going to hope to hold a meeting with all the organizers this week or next week so we can hammer out all the details then we can get rolling.
This week should be pretty busy (seeing as how it's midterms week for most of us). Next week is probably better?
yeah, i would say next week will be excellent, or the weekend, how about a iccup channel for this? at least try to get people online at the same time? op UC or something like for step one, move on from there to start something, unless ofcrs, xeris is a awesome planner n the ladder is already setup with everything needed :D.
I'd like to do as much organizing and admin stuff or whatever outside of b.net or iccup as is possible. I don't spend too much time in there. If we could organize through AIM or email, that would be better, I think.
My computer is usually left on with AIM open (I can get MSN too if most use that), but having to rely on having everyone online in iccup is a bit troublesome, don't you think?
EDIT Also, none of the people I've got on my team so far have ever used iccup either... -____-;;
On January 27 2009 11:16 PH wrote: I'd like to do as much organizing and admin stuff or whatever outside of b.net or iccup as is possible. I don't spend too much time in there. If we could organize through AIM or email, that would be better, I think.
My computer is usually left on with AIM open (I can get MSN too if most use that), but having to rely on having everyone online in iccup is a bit troublesome, don't you think?
EDIT Also, none of the people I've got on my team so far have ever used iccup either... -____-;;
Wow.
Yeah I agree. Once we get on Battle.net or iCCup we're liable to get distracted. E-mail and AIM are more productive.
By the way Xeris, you haven't asked for my contact info. Are you freezing out UCLA? Just kidding.
On January 27 2009 11:45 Creationism wrote: hey, fuck you, i suggest watever the fuck i like, but yes, centric is a bad person, or as one would call it, a fag.
On January 27 2009 11:16 PH wrote: I'd like to do as much organizing and admin stuff or whatever outside of b.net or iccup as is possible. I don't spend too much time in there. If we could organize through AIM or email, that would be better, I think.
My computer is usually left on with AIM open (I can get MSN too if most use that), but having to rely on having everyone online in iccup is a bit troublesome, don't you think?
EDIT Also, none of the people I've got on my team so far have ever used iccup either... -____-;;
Wow.
Yeah I agree. Once we get on Battle.net or iCCup we're liable to get distracted. E-mail and AIM are more productive.
By the way Xeris, you haven't asked for my contact info. Are you freezing out UCLA? Just kidding.
haha, yeah, a lot of Koreans have no idea what iccup is...which is strange since even progamers seem to use it quite a bit. I dunno. I'm still confident, though...they're pretty good. haha.
On January 27 2009 11:16 PH wrote: I'd like to do as much organizing and admin stuff or whatever outside of b.net or iccup as is possible. I don't spend too much time in there. If we could organize through AIM or email, that would be better, I think.
My computer is usually left on with AIM open (I can get MSN too if most use that), but having to rely on having everyone online in iccup is a bit troublesome, don't you think?
EDIT Also, none of the people I've got on my team so far have ever used iccup either... -____-;;
Wow.
Yeah I agree. Once we get on Battle.net or iCCup we're liable to get distracted. E-mail and AIM are more productive.
By the way Xeris, you haven't asked for my contact info. Are you freezing out UCLA? Just kidding.
haha, yeah, a lot of Koreans have no idea what iccup is...which is strange since even progamers seem to use it quite a bit. I dunno. I'm still confident, though...they're pretty good. haha.
Hahaha...I dunno man. Once I met a Korean who I thought would be good at UCLA, and he was complete garbage.
On January 19 2009 16:25 iPF[Div] wrote: brb filing transfer to UCBerkeley
I don't know if you knew, if you didn't its quite ironic that you would say that. UC Berkeley has just opened a starcraft course...a REAL course...with REAL credits....
On January 19 2009 16:25 iPF[Div] wrote: brb filing transfer to UCBerkeley
I don't know if you knew, if you didn't its quite ironic that you would say that. UC Berkeley has just opened a starcraft course...a REAL course...with REAL credits....
On January 20 2009 10:58 Neverborn wrote: What about us poor CSU folk?
Seconded.
I was thinking that I would be interested in running a straight up college league. Since you only need 5 players per campus, there should be plenty of colleges/teams that want to participate, and it would just be for fun. I want to see this one get up and running first ^_^
On February 04 2009 11:25 xKagex wrote: Can people who even really suck play? I'd be interested in playing but I'm a freshie at UCI and just thoroughly suck.
if you're interested in joining the UCI part of things, PM me your email address and I'll add you to the email list
Wow, I'm posting pretty deep into this thread. Just wanted to say I'm planning to transfer to UCI Spring 2010. I'm in the Army right now but am gonna go back to school as soon as I get out. I might be the only white guy there, but I'm down! In all seriousness, I do think UCI has one of the highest asian populations of all the UCs, so you'd think there'd be a lot of SC followers I can't wait to link up! I lurk a little bit on TL but am pretty active on SC2GG.
On February 05 2009 06:04 stevethemacguy wrote: Wow, I'm posting pretty deep into this thread. Just wanted to say I'm planning to transfer to UCI Spring 2010. I'm in the Army right now but am gonna go back to school as soon as I get out. I might be the only white guy there, but I'm down! In all seriousness, I do think UCI has one of the highest asian populations of all the UCs, so you'd think there'd be a lot of SC followers I can't wait to link up! I lurk a little bit on TL but am pretty active on SC2GG.
There are a pretty decent amount- go ahead and pm blabber, and join up once you get here. I hope that we have this up and running by then.
I'd be proud to be part of the UCB starcraft team! I am really interested in this as well. I'm currently in Nimue's DeCal Starcraft class and it is absolutely extraordinary. I'd love to participate in any events you guys may have!
lol I mean we kinda have a Champ Car and Indy Racing League thing going here... two separate entities that pretty much do the same thing and would benefit if we join forces...
xeris, i can write the site in Ruby on Rails, but someone else should probably design it. hosting would be 20/month for that (for a vps) -- but it's very fast.
I've got hosting, not a problem ... I just need a design. And actually, all the pages can just be text as long as theres some nice looking design, I can update 100% of the information manually w/ html or whatever if needed.
Ok so, for all the teams - the general consensus is Sunday nights . A few people said that is not preferable, but mostly that's what I've gotten. Is this a HUGE problem for anybody, please speak up!
On February 08 2009 13:18 blabber wrote: do you guys just wanna join the CSL...? kinda dumb to have two separate leagues going
I think CSL is going to be all colleges (basically whoever can get a team together) while the UC thing is going to be all the UCs. Whether or not the UC system is 12 schools or 1 school is up to debate in all sorts of fields so it's probably going to be controversial as well here. But based on the fact that the UCs are pretty united geographically (important from a time zone perspective) as well as culturally it's probably smart of isolate the UCs because they can run a league all to them selves.
I'm surprised that Sunday nights was chosen. I would have thought that everyone has hw to do.
On February 08 2009 13:18 blabber wrote: do you guys just wanna join the CSL...? kinda dumb to have two separate leagues going
I think CSL is going to be all colleges (basically whoever can get a team together) while the UC thing is going to be all the UCs. Whether or not the UC system is 12 schools or 1 school is up to debate in all sorts of fields so it's probably going to be controversial as well here. But based on the fact that the UCs are pretty united geographically (important from a time zone perspective) as well as culturally it's probably smart of isolate the UCs because they can run a league all to them selves.
I'm surprised that Sunday nights was chosen. I would have thought that everyone has hw to do.
but there arn't any parties to go to, that's the difference.
So is it possible that a school is going to compete in both the CSL as well as the UC league?
Haven't read the whole thread, so I'm not sure where things are at right now, but I'll just mention that my roommate and I both play SC relatively often and could be interested in this. (UCLA).
On February 10 2009 08:39 Crahptacular wrote: Haven't read the whole thread, so I'm not sure where things are at right now, but I'll just mention that my roommate and I both play SC relatively often and could be interested in this. (UCLA).
Send me a PM with you and your roommate's TL handles and preferred races.
On February 14 2009 02:19 randomKo_Orean wrote: Idea:
WE NEED DIVISIONS to make it more competetive
For example: we have 8 colleges 4 southern division, and 4 northern division we play each teams in respective divisions twice per school (6 weeks) and play each teams of the other division once per school (3 weeks) top 2 from each division do a semifinal game (A1 vs B2, A2 vs B1) and final/3rd/4th place games after that week
how about it?
That actually sounds like a good idea. I'd be down for that.
well if I can't get some kind of site readied for this, I'll just use this usa forum my cousin made, so I'll wait a few days and see if I hear anything, and if not I'll go set this up on the forum.
I don't think this UC thing and the CSL need or should be exclusive of each other. I thought Cal was doing both anyway. Proximity time-zone wise just makes this more convenient; if there's enough people at the UC's to organize matches on their own, it doesn't hurt to do it. Though if the CSL grows and establishes a good infrastructure, I suggest any school who wants to have a competitive team join that, as having one large organization nation-wide is something the UCs obviously can't do on their own.
On February 18 2009 10:16 Crahptacular wrote: I don't think this UC thing and the CSL need or should be exclusive of each other. I thought Cal was doing both anyway. Proximity time-zone wise just makes this more convenient; if there's enough people at the UC's to organize matches on their own, it doesn't hurt to do it. Though if the CSL grows and establishes a good infrastructure, I suggest any school who wants to have a competitive team join that, as having one large organization nation-wide is something the UCs obviously can't do on their own.
I see what you're saying, but I think the way Xeris wants to do it (and correct me if I'm wrong, Xeris) is something a lot close-knit with steady competition. Our relatively close proximity (and large number of players, compared to other universities, at least) makes us ideal to do that. From what I've seen of the CSL, matches don't come by very often, and I haven't seen any sort of official standing. Plus, Xeris, with his experience with BWUSA, is in a unique position to make this a real success, as long as people are willing and able to commit to this.
Sorry if I spoke for you Xeris. Hopefully I'm on the right track.
Ok here's what I'm going to do... I've tried to get in contact with the guy who made BWUSA to see if I could get him to re-upload the site, since I got an offer of 6 months free hosting to get BWUSA.org back... but I didn't get a response from him.
SO...
I guess I'll run it from this temporary forum that my cousin and I set up for team USA and hopefully along the way I'll be able to find someone who can help make a site.
SO...
here's what I'm going to need:
- Team Rosters from each team (PM me) - Do you guys want picking random as a race to be allowed? (YES / NO) - Map Pool ... let's decide a map pool then we can alternate and stuff - Format.. going to be a round robin, but do you want to have it where each team plays the other teams twice (proleague works like this right?), or just once?
** League will begin March 1 **
This weekend once I get the rosters and stuff, I'll create the schedule and fix everything on the forum and then announce everything.
In the mean time, I'll be looking for anyone who might want to volunteer to make a nice site for this.. I've got hosting covered, just need a website!
On February 19 2009 14:52 Siz)Beggar wrote: i have a question now in 2010 i graduate and ill be going to ucla playing football can i join the ucla team??
im probably a minority in saying i like 2v2's and thus prefer the old proleague format. oh well. also are we supposed to give feedback to the questions in this thread, or wait for the site to go up?
On February 19 2009 16:58 Crahptacular wrote: round robin? so that means no 2v2? :<
im probably a minority in saying i like 2v2's and thus prefer the old proleague format. oh well. also are we supposed to give feedback to the questions in this thread, or wait for the site to go up?
i'm also in favor of a 2v2. I don't think anyone is really good at it anymore, so w/e
On February 19 2009 16:58 Crahptacular wrote: round robin? so that means no 2v2? :<
im probably a minority in saying i like 2v2's and thus prefer the old proleague format. oh well. also are we supposed to give feedback to the questions in this thread, or wait for the site to go up?
i'm also in favor of a 2v2. I don't think anyone is really good at it anymore, so w/e
I think 2v2 would be nice, but I see it as a dying type of game. There's very little support for it, especially since there are only a couple of 2v2 maps around now that PL is not refreshing their map pool with 2v2 maps. I know you can play on other maps, but that just doesn't seem as legit to me.
I would also like to see 2v2 included, but I think at least for this first season, just 1v1 is fine so we can at least get it started up. As for map pool, I've mentioned this before, but for one, there's plenty of 2v2 maps kespa has put out in the past, so it should be fine for at least a while; especially as most of us are younger players that weren't around for so long that the old maps are completely played out.
In addition, I think using maps made by the mapping community (like TL did for one of their showmatches) would be completely fine, and might even be a great idea for the sake of making this more of a community project.
BTW, Xeris, for website, since no one's stepped up, I'll talk to my cousin again and see if she'll throw something together. Can you PM me with a rather specific list of what you want on it?
On February 18 2009 10:16 Crahptacular wrote: I don't think this UC thing and the CSL need or should be exclusive of each other. I thought Cal was doing both anyway. Proximity time-zone wise just makes this more convenient; if there's enough people at the UC's to organize matches on their own, it doesn't hurt to do it. Though if the CSL grows and establishes a good infrastructure, I suggest any school who wants to have a competitive team join that, as having one large organization nation-wide is something the UCs obviously can't do on their own.
I see what you're saying, but I think the way Xeris wants to do it (and correct me if I'm wrong, Xeris) is something a lot close-knit with steady competition. Our relatively close proximity (and large number of players, compared to other universities, at least) makes us ideal to do that. From what I've seen of the CSL, matches don't come by very often, and I haven't seen any sort of official standing. Plus, Xeris, with his experience with BWUSA, is in a unique position to make this a real success, as long as people are willing and able to commit to this.
Sorry if I spoke for you Xeris. Hopefully I'm on the right track.
BTW for the record I never intended to say that CSL should take precedence over UCPL or that the UCPL would phase out or anything like that; just that the players (or entire teams) participating in one should be free to participate in both simultaneously if they want to. I just wanted to point out that there were advantages to both leagues, and that they shouldn't be competing with each other over players.
On February 18 2009 10:16 Crahptacular wrote: I don't think this UC thing and the CSL need or should be exclusive of each other. I thought Cal was doing both anyway. Proximity time-zone wise just makes this more convenient; if there's enough people at the UC's to organize matches on their own, it doesn't hurt to do it. Though if the CSL grows and establishes a good infrastructure, I suggest any school who wants to have a competitive team join that, as having one large organization nation-wide is something the UCs obviously can't do on their own.
I see what you're saying, but I think the way Xeris wants to do it (and correct me if I'm wrong, Xeris) is something a lot close-knit with steady competition. Our relatively close proximity (and large number of players, compared to other universities, at least) makes us ideal to do that. From what I've seen of the CSL, matches don't come by very often, and I haven't seen any sort of official standing. Plus, Xeris, with his experience with BWUSA, is in a unique position to make this a real success, as long as people are willing and able to commit to this.
Sorry if I spoke for you Xeris. Hopefully I'm on the right track.
BTW for the record I never intended to say that CSL should take precedence over UCPL or that the UCPL would phase out or anything like that; just that the players (or entire teams) participating in one should be free to participate in both simultaneously if they want to. I just wanted to point out that there were advantages to both leagues, and that they shouldn't be competing with each other over players.
Ah...I should've read more carefully. I agree...there are advantages to both, and teams should be able to compete in both if they choose to do so.
On February 18 2009 10:16 Crahptacular wrote: I don't think this UC thing and the CSL need or should be exclusive of each other. I thought Cal was doing both anyway. Proximity time-zone wise just makes this more convenient; if there's enough people at the UC's to organize matches on their own, it doesn't hurt to do it. Though if the CSL grows and establishes a good infrastructure, I suggest any school who wants to have a competitive team join that, as having one large organization nation-wide is something the UCs obviously can't do on their own.
I see what you're saying, but I think the way Xeris wants to do it (and correct me if I'm wrong, Xeris) is something a lot close-knit with steady competition. Our relatively close proximity (and large number of players, compared to other universities, at least) makes us ideal to do that. From what I've seen of the CSL, matches don't come by very often, and I haven't seen any sort of official standing. Plus, Xeris, with his experience with BWUSA, is in a unique position to make this a real success, as long as people are willing and able to commit to this.
Sorry if I spoke for you Xeris. Hopefully I'm on the right track.
BTW for the record I never intended to say that CSL should take precedence over UCPL or that the UCPL would phase out or anything like that; just that the players (or entire teams) participating in one should be free to participate in both simultaneously if they want to. I just wanted to point out that there were advantages to both leagues, and that they shouldn't be competing with each other over players.
I was never under the impression that we weren't able to be in both
On February 08 2009 13:18 blabber wrote: do you guys just wanna join the CSL...? kinda dumb to have two separate leagues going
I think CSL is going to be all colleges (basically whoever can get a team together) while the UC thing is going to be all the UCs. Whether or not the UC system is 12 schools or 1 school is up to debate in all sorts of fields so it's probably going to be controversial as well here. But based on the fact that the UCs are pretty united geographically (important from a time zone perspective) as well as culturally it's probably smart of isolate the UCs because they can run a league all to them selves.
I'm surprised that Sunday nights was chosen. I would have thought that everyone has hw to do.
The part saying "kinda dumb to have two separate leagues," and "it's probably going to be contraversial [to have UCs join the CSL]," and "it's probably smart of [to] isolate the UCs" brought up the topic of whether or not they were going to be separate, and whether they were going to be mutually exclusive.
Anyhow, I think it's already agreed that the two things can happen on their own, side-by-side, and I only posted my last comment to clarify a misunderstanding, not to re-open the topic for discussion.
As I said, I'm open to suggestions - if you have different ideas, SUGGEST them to me ^___^! I have no clue about maps or anything, I haven't played a game in over a month, so I just figured recent proleague maps were ok. If you guys want different, give me other alternatives.
Lineups will be set in advance, team leaders will pm them to me then I'll post it. Whenever my team (UCSD) plays one of the teams, we can exchange mutually via AIM or something at the same time just for the sake of honesty.
The maps I guess will be chosen randomly, unless someone wants to come up with some kind of formula as to how they should be chosen.
On February 20 2009 18:52 Xeris wrote: As I said, I'm open to suggestions - if you have different ideas, SUGGEST them to me ^___^! I have no clue about maps or anything, I haven't played a game in over a month, so I just figured recent proleague maps were ok. If you guys want different, give me other alternatives.
Lineups will be set in advance, team leaders will pm them to me then I'll post it. Whenever my team (UCSD) plays one of the teams, we can exchange mutually via AIM or something at the same time just for the sake of honesty.
The maps I guess will be chosen randomly, unless someone wants to come up with some kind of formula as to how they should be chosen.
I was going through with my team and voting on their top five maps. So far it looks like (in order of preference)...
On February 20 2009 18:56 medic27 wrote: as for choosing maps, maybe we can have each of the opponents choose one map they can eliminate from the pool and then just random it.
that's not how proleague works OO~ maps are pre-set, then teams choose which player will play on each map.. then each posts their lineups, and are matched up according to the map.
On February 20 2009 18:56 medic27 wrote: as for choosing maps, maybe we can have each of the opponents choose one map they can eliminate from the pool and then just random it.
that's not how proleague works OO~ maps are pre-set, then teams choose which player will play on each map.. then each posts their lineups, and are matched up according to the map.
oh ok that sounds pretty good, yeah i think i took the idea from gom's averatec league or something
On February 20 2009 19:02 Xeris wrote: ok I'll remove chupung ryung and tau cross and add python + blue storm , that cool?
i hear tau cross is really balanced, maybe we should look for balance in the map rotation alongside with general preference, but i dont really know which maps are more balanced. maybe wait a day and see what other team captains have to say on behalf of themselves and their members.
keep chupung ryung and tau cross. 1) people need to learn new maps! it's more fun that way. 2) people can play python and blue storm on their own time >> 3) they are more balanced i. chupung ryung > blue storm as a 1v1 map...you know the blue storm issues with siege tanks and mutas. ii. tau cross > python because it's a bigger map and more suitable imo. python is a really small map, especially traveling distance from base to base compared to all the maps being played today by everyone and pros.
my opinions! you guys do whatever you want. majority rules i guess.
On February 20 2009 19:41 Rucky wrote: keep chupung ryung and tau cross. 1) people need to learn new maps! it's more fun that way. 2) people can play python and blue storm on their own time >> 3) they are more balanced i. chupung ryung > blue storm as a 1v1 map...you know the blue storm issues with siege tanks and mutas. ii. tau cross > python because it's a bigger map and more suitable imo. python is a really small map, especially traveling distance from base to base compared to all the maps being played today by everyone and pros.
my opinions! you guys do whatever you want. majority rules i guess.
1. Tau Cross is old. And we do have plenty of new maps in the pool already. 2. If they're playing it in their own time, then it would qualify as practice, which would make the quality of the games in the UCPL better. 3. Python is widely-known as a mostly balanced map. We already have big maps (e.g. Andromeda) in the pool, and besides, Python has become the standard of StarCraft maps. It should be included. The latest version of Blue Storm was generally accepted to have helped fix a lot of the imbalances of the previous one. Sin Chupung-Ryeong hasn't had enough of a run, and so far it looks like TvZ is just as imbalanced (but towards T instead of Z).
On February 20 2009 19:41 Rucky wrote: keep chupung ryung and tau cross. 1) people need to learn new maps! it's more fun that way. 2) people can play python and blue storm on their own time >> 3) they are more balanced i. chupung ryung > blue storm as a 1v1 map...you know the blue storm issues with siege tanks and mutas. ii. tau cross > python because it's a bigger map and more suitable imo. python is a really small map, especially traveling distance from base to base compared to all the maps being played today by everyone and pros.
my opinions! you guys do whatever you want. majority rules i guess.
1. Tau cross is an ooold map...it was brought back for current PL. Also, this is a casual league. Better games will come out of more familiar maps. 2. See above. 3. Chupung leans considerably towards T in TvZ, and its ZvP is a joke...P is screwed. Terran is also favored over protoss on that map, I think. Python is a larger map, btw. It's bigger than Medusa, anyway. We're not trying to emulate pros. We're trying to have a fun league.
On February 21 2009 14:16 PH wrote: 1. Tau cross is an ooold map...it was brought back for current PL. Also, this is a casual league. Better games will come out of more familiar maps. 2. See above. 3. Chupung leans considerably towards T in TvZ, and its ZvP is a joke...P is screwed. Terran is also favored over protoss on that map, I think. Python is a larger map, btw. It's bigger than Medusa, anyway. We're not trying to emulate pros. We're trying to have a fun league.
I agree, python should definitely be in the pool for these reasons.
On February 21 2009 18:22 blabber wrote: any map but Python! Please!
also isn't it kind of hard to submit a lineup without the map order? Or can we decide which player plays on whatever map later?
I know a lot of people hate on Python cause it's overplayed, but I think for that very reason it should be included. A lot of our lower level players have never even played another map.
On February 22 2009 09:15 Tekin wrote: I wish i could help out at UCLA since i go there but i suck at this game
I suck too, come out tonight and play with us anyway.
Indeed. We're not all about winning this UCPL (even though we will). We'd like to foster a sense of community with people who play StarCraft here...especially if you're on TL.net.
On February 22 2009 12:51 Xeris wrote: that is THE dino. there's only one David Kent.
I guess we should have an team leader vote or something if people have problems with him, to decide whether or not he should be allowed to play.
Why, what is the issue?
Are you serious? Dino is one of the most infamous hackers of all time. He's good even without hacks, but a lot of people have problems with him for what he's done in the past.
On February 22 2009 12:51 Xeris wrote: that is THE dino. there's only one David Kent.
I guess we should have an team leader vote or something if people have problems with him, to decide whether or not he should be allowed to play.
Why, what is the issue?
Are you serious? Dino is one of the most infamous hackers of all time. He's good even without hacks, but a lot of people have problems with him for what he's done in the past.
On February 23 2009 11:12 Xeris wrote: I'm sure you can find more!
Yeah I mean they don't all have to be great players. I'm pretty sure every teenage guy played StarCraft at some point in his life - it's not far fetched to think that some of them still play.
Ugh...all of my members decided to be relatively inactive...I've only gotten two replies to the last email I sent out. It's going to be reeaaally tough to have a lineup ready for the first match...T_T
On February 23 2009 16:15 blabber wrote: I coulda sworn we (UCI) are playing Berkeley first week
You are right.
I'm glad I don't have your problem PH...I'd say the majority of my giant roster is pretty active, and I get somewhat prompt responses (it takes maybe a day or two).
On February 23 2009 16:12 PH wrote: Ugh...all of my members decided to be relatively inactive...I've only gotten two replies to the last email I sent out. It's going to be reeaaally tough to have a lineup ready for the first match...T_T
...much less one that's practiced...
Berkeley gets a free win, first week...
haha.
nooooo
we'll be good. you and me and we just need two more
berkeley won't know what hit them. any news on the get-together this week?
On February 23 2009 16:15 blabber wrote: I coulda sworn we (UCI) are playing Berkeley first week
You are right.
I'm glad I don't have your problem PH...I'd say the majority of my giant roster is pretty active, and I get somewhat prompt responses (it takes maybe a day or two).
Oh shit, you're right...I guess it either changed or I misread it...probably the latter.
We're playing Davis then?
Still free win...
pandabearguy: I'm thinking of having a get together this coming Sunday so we can all watch Jaedong vs Bisu and kick back with like pizza and beer or something. haha. Sound good? I'll send out another email about it soon.
lol that game was disgusting by me... horrible scouting on my part - I had it if I remembered he could kill my temple and rape me from behind... but he recovered really well from my cheese, lol! Lore is good.
I'm working on an actual website (I just dl'd some template from the internet and am fixing all the pages and editing shit) - I should be done in the next day or so. So ya, stay tuned for update.
And tomorrow morning I'll put out the maps and whatnot.
ok actually I just finished it ... just need to figure how to upload it to my hosting ;p! expect the website up tomorrow.
oh and uh, if anybody knows someone who is good with graphics and can make me a banner that would be VERY cool! PM me so I can give you color scheme details so the banner matches the design.
Uh, just some random one , looks decent IMO O_O! Your second question, no effing idea. You'll see how it looks anyways at some point tomorrow, hopefully it's alright.
On February 24 2009 16:57 Xeris wrote: Uh, just some random one , looks decent IMO O_O! Your second question, no effing idea. You'll see how it looks anyways at some point tomorrow, hopefully it's alright.
On February 24 2009 16:57 Xeris wrote: Uh, just some random one , looks decent IMO O_O! Your second question, no effing idea. You'll see how it looks anyways at some point tomorrow, hopefully it's alright.
if anyone can contact the UCSB guy who's in charge of their team in CSL, please tell them to participate in this too!
I'm trying to get ahold of someone from Berkeley OO!~
are you going to keep the phpbb board, or are you going to scrap it in favor of the CMS that CSL is using? (you can ignore these questions if you so choose, i'm just curious).
On February 24 2009 17:12 Xeris wrote: I'm gonna keep the forum and use that as the forum ... O_O! maybe I'm not making sense right now but it will make sense tomorrow, lol.
PS.
updated the OP
Well the reason I ask is that there are frameworks that I'm looking at using that have them integrated. It also depends what cms you picked. But i guess i'll wait for tommorow so that it all makes sense xD
Is it the same list for week 2? I didn't know the maps would be diff week to week, our team has been practicing blue storm and we have a bye week first week so I wanna know if BS is still in the list for week 2. Which reminds me, can you release map lists 2 weeks ahead of the matches since there's a bye week each week for one team? That way the teams know what maps they need to be prepared to play on.
You will always be blue in my mind. I hope you get demoted, because whenever I see you in Red I read Rast Lomantic, and I think of myself as a good reader.
You will always be blue in my mind. I hope you get demoted, because whenever I see you in Red I read Rast Lomantic, and I think of myself as a good reader.
Nah, I have no intention of going. I only mentioned Stanford because Stanford acts the same way to Berkeley that Berkeley acts to the other UCs.
delay til next week since UCSB and Cal don't have their stuff ready? Also, I personally think that it'd be weird to start up the league right when finals are looming for most of us... so my suggestion is to start the league during/after spring break
On February 25 2009 17:52 blabber wrote: delay til next week since UCSB and Cal don't have their stuff ready? Also, I personally think that it'd be weird to start up the league right when finals are looming for most of us... so my suggestion is to start the league during/after spring break
I kind of agree with this. It's currently 8th week, and it's only going to get busier as the quarter progresses. Then again, we'll face this problem eventually - do we just cancel matches during Week 8, 9, and 10 of every quarter?
Quick question...should the name on the roster match the name under the team tag? In other words, should only the handle Name be used for UCLA.Name or can it be any handle that the person uses?
On February 26 2009 08:08 Centric wrote: Quick question...should the name on the roster match the name under the team tag? In other words, should only the handle Name be used for UCLA.Name or can it be any handle that the person uses?
it should match the name on the roster , or, their roster should match what they use... either way there should be one name a player uses so they can all be identified.
the tags don't *have* to be like Schoo Name.Name or something, you can be creative or w/e !
On February 26 2009 08:08 Centric wrote: Quick question...should the name on the roster match the name under the team tag? In other words, should only the handle Name be used for UCLA.Name or can it be any handle that the person uses?
it should match the name on the roster , or, their roster should match what they use... either way there should be one name a player uses so they can all be identified.
the tags don't *have* to be like Schoo Name.Name or something, you can be creative or w/e !
we're still deciding on our tag
Hahahaha...we're lazy and uncreative and went with UCLA.Name. Oh well. I'll be PM-ing you an updated roster with the names people will be using in a couple days.
My players keep changing their IDs, or I haven't gotten them yet...I don't think I'll have a completed roster until the end of this week, but I'll have the lineups for you by tomorrow...albeit late.
So if UCB doesn't play, would it be better for the league if UCLA didn't take a bye this weekend? It might not work out, since I've already told my players they won't be playing, but if it's better for UCPL in general, it might be worth a shot?
yo what the fuck cal, you guys have a starcraft class with which to practice your technique for a ucpl match...and then this?
What's the point in having a starcraft class for two units? You should be using the UCPL matches as weekly quizzes on how much you've absorbed over your course. Sounds like some pansy nonsense.
uhm the point of the class is not to get better at SC. Anyways its more likely the right people with organization/leadership haven't been contacted because theres a lack of UCB's presence on these forums so maybe players dont know about UCPL.
On February 27 2009 14:37 medic27 wrote: uhm the point of the class is not to get better at SC. Anyways its more likely the right people with organization/leadership haven't been contacted because theres a lack of UCB's presence on these forums so maybe players dont know about UCPL.
no, I've gotten PM'd Nimue the guy who's organizing everything at UCB and he ignored me. then I talked to his "associate" Tyler, and he said that Nimue said he didnt want Berkley playing.
On February 27 2009 14:37 medic27 wrote: uhm the point of the class is not to get better at SC. Anyways its more likely the right people with organization/leadership haven't been contacted because theres a lack of UCB's presence on these forums so maybe players dont know about UCPL.
no, I've gotten PM'd Nimue the guy who's organizing everything at UCB and he ignored me. then I talked to his "associate" Tyler, and he said that Nimue said he didnt want Berkley playing.
On February 27 2009 14:37 medic27 wrote: uhm the point of the class is not to get better at SC. Anyways its more likely the right people with organization/leadership haven't been contacted because theres a lack of UCB's presence on these forums so maybe players dont know about UCPL.
no, I've gotten PM'd Nimue the guy who's organizing everything at UCB and he ignored me. then I talked to his "associate" Tyler, and he said that Nimue said he didnt want Berkley playing.
I think the website would look better without the blue glowlight effect in the background. It detracts from the main centerpiece because it's the same color and it makes me wince because there's so much bright blue. Personally, I think even black would look great as a background.
On February 27 2009 17:25 Xeris wrote: omg Berkeley has manned up - they're going to be sending me their roster
Awesome possum.
STOP SAYING THAT!!! IT MAKES ME SAD THAT I KNOW YOU EVERYTIME YOU SAY THAT! THIS IS LIKE KRIS ACTING GAY! STOP IT!!!! WE ARE OFFERING A ROAD OF HETEROSEXUALITY! TAKE IT!
Nimue is a student. I am a student. We are both working hard, and spending a bunch of time to organize the class. I mean, hell, we don't go complaining to the TL staff saying WTF WERE'S OURRR TSL2!11!!!!11!!OMG! TL STAFF DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THEIR FREE TIMEEEEEE
Nimue was already busy organizing one league, and having to find people, and send out more people for another league that sure, maybe has more recognition because of Xeris' credentials, but includes fewer colleges, wasn't in his time schedule. I talked to him about it, and either me or Lore can help organize it for Berkeley.
On February 27 2009 19:29 phase wrote: Nimue is a student. I am a student. We are both working hard, and spending a bunch of time to organize the class. I mean, hell, we don't go complaining to the TL staff saying WTF WERE'S OURRR TSL2!11!!!!11!!OMG! TL STAFF DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THEIR FREE TIMEEEEEE
Nimue was already busy organizing one league, and having to find people, and send out more people for another league that sure, maybe has more recognition because of Xeris' credentials, but includes fewer colleges, wasn't in his time schedule. I talked to him about it, and either me or Lore can help organize it for Berkeley.
Dude we're all students too. Xeris taking like seven classes and I'm hard at work on the pre-med track. Nobody is discounting how busy you guys are, but seeing as how Nimue already committed to doing this, backing out of this is kind of ridiculous. I'm glad that you guys are back in though...we knew one of the difficulties going in was finding people who had the time and who were willing to work at making this a success.
makes more sense to me that nimue didnt want berk to be part of this. volunteering then ignoring is a good way to do that. its quite selfish, and if its the case he needs to realize that he can't make decisions for other people.
if its simply a lack of time, then i refer to what centric said, dont say shit u cant commit to.
On February 27 2009 19:29 phase wrote: Nimue is a student. I am a student. We are both working hard, and spending a bunch of time to organize the class. I mean, hell, we don't go complaining to the TL staff saying WTF WERE'S OURRR TSL2!11!!!!11!!OMG! TL STAFF DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THEIR FREE TIMEEEEEE
Nimue was already busy organizing one league, and having to find people, and send out more people for another league that sure, maybe has more recognition because of Xeris' credentials, but includes fewer colleges, wasn't in his time schedule. I talked to him about it, and either me or Lore can help organize it for Berkeley.
all I got from this post is "wha wha wha"! =p
but in all honesty - Berkeley is a good school and the league wouldn't be the same without it. also having a league with only 5 teams kinda sucks, so Berkeley's participation is fairly crucial. somehow 6 looks better than 5, since now we can have 3 matches per week at least.
On February 27 2009 20:31 PH wrote: WOW OUR LINEUP STILL ISNT FINALIZED...sorry.
It's ok... I realize that this will take a bit of time to actually get running full steam. If the first week or two are kinda shaky, that's cool by me. The end result is the most important.
On March 01 2009 06:34 Centric wrote: Wow so Dino is playing?
Yes.
On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: Dino is not = to Dinot right? Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us...
No. Din0t is from Chile or something, and is a zerg player.
On March 01 2009 10:15 pandabearguy wrote: yikes. tvp on medusa
good thing han is a BEAST
haha. He played some iccup games for the first time today...and he was like, "yeah i want to play c rank players, but they won't play me". I was like, "you have to get your rank up first...". "I know, but it's so boring...I've been playing Z and P against D and D+ ppl"
On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: Dino is not = to Dinot right? Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us...
Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time
On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: Dino is not = to Dinot right? Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us...
Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time
On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: Dino is not = to Dinot right? Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us...
Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time
He won't be hacking, don't worry.
I know he doesn't need to hack against us...he's a really good player in his own right. It's just the fact that he's kind of a douche for hacking in the past that makes it questionable.
I think UCSB is going to withdraw. Mindgames apparently has gotten himself a job and doesn't have the time to organize things, there's not really anybody else willing to step up. We do have a cstarleague team, but the guy running it doesn't want to take on additional responsibilities.
On March 01 2009 17:27 Underwhelmed wrote: I think UCSB is going to withdraw. Mindgames apparently has gotten himself a job and doesn't have the time to organize things, there's not really anybody else willing to step up. We do have a cstarleague team, but the guy running it doesn't want to take on additional responsibilities.
UCI will have to do the same. I've been doing a bit worse in school lately and I need to get my act together, especially with finals coming up, so I need as little on my plate as possible. Our CSL manager also doesn't want to manage two leagues. We also have a lack of interest on our team to participate in the UCPL
On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: Dino is not = to Dinot right? Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us...
Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time
He won't be hacking, don't worry.
I know he doesn't need to hack against us...he's a really good player in his own right. It's just the fact that he's kind of a douche for hacking in the past that makes it questionable.
Agreed. By allowing known, unrepentant hackers to compete, you undermine the integrity of the league and dismiss the honest playerbase - regardless of whether or not Dino hacks in this particular event.
Universal banning of hackers/abusers from all competition is one of the first conditions we must clear to legitimize e-sports in the greater public conscience.
On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: Dino is not = to Dinot right? Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us...
Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time
He won't be hacking, don't worry.
I know he doesn't need to hack against us...he's a really good player in his own right. It's just the fact that he's kind of a douche for hacking in the past that makes it questionable.
Agreed. By allowing known, unrepentant hackers to compete, you undermine the integrity of the league and dismiss the honest playerbase - regardless of whether or not Dino hacks in this particular event.
Universal banning of hackers/abusers from all competition is one of the first conditions we must clear to legitimize e-sports in the greater public conscience.
I will vouch that for as long as I've known him (the past several weeks), he has not done any abuses...he no longer plays competitively, so what would be the point, really? Whatever, I'm not gonna say anymore...I didn't even know who Dino was until AFTER this thread, so I don't know the entire situation firsthand.
However, I think it would also preserve the integrity of the league for the school you represent to not have pulled out in the manner they did... -______-
This is rather unrelated, but this UCPL is not going well...lol.
On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: Dino is not = to Dinot right? Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us...
Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time
He won't be hacking, don't worry.
I know he doesn't need to hack against us...he's a really good player in his own right. It's just the fact that he's kind of a douche for hacking in the past that makes it questionable.
Agreed. By allowing known, unrepentant hackers to compete, you undermine the integrity of the league and dismiss the honest playerbase - regardless of whether or not Dino hacks in this particular event.
Universal banning of hackers/abusers from all competition is one of the first conditions we must clear to legitimize e-sports in the greater public conscience.
Well said. I'm very iffy about arguing against Dino playing because he actually is a very good player...and I don't want to make it seem like we just want to dodge his skill. However, I have a lot of moral qualms about allowing him to play, because that sends the message that if you hack, you'll never pay for it.
On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: Dino is not = to Dinot right? Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us...
Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time
He won't be hacking, don't worry.
I know he doesn't need to hack against us...he's a really good player in his own right. It's just the fact that he's kind of a douche for hacking in the past that makes it questionable.
Agreed. By allowing known, unrepentant hackers to compete, you undermine the integrity of the league and dismiss the honest playerbase - regardless of whether or not Dino hacks in this particular event.
Universal banning of hackers/abusers from all competition is one of the first conditions we must clear to legitimize e-sports in the greater public conscience.
Well said. I'm very iffy about arguing against Dino playing because he actually is a very good player...and I don't want to make it seem like we just want to dodge his skill. However, I have a lot of moral qualms about allowing him to play, because that sends the message that if you hack, you'll never pay for it.
I understand that completely. It is that he is a good player in his own right that complicates this matter. I'm not particularly jumping up and down defending him, but I mean...like I said, I've only known him for several weeks (I wasn't around during the WCG debacle), and he hasn't done anything suspicious as long as I've known of him. In fact, he's a rather chill and gm guy irl. I know TL has a very unforgiving overall outlook against hackers and abusers which I think is perfectly understandable and reasonable.
From the perspective of a guy organizing a group of players to compete in things like UCPL and CSL, I would rather be able to play him. He is a good player, and he is very helpful. He's been assisting, teaching and practicing with everyone.
On March 02 2009 08:19 Xeris wrote: we should have a vote, as I said before.
it just sucks that schools are flaking out at the last minute.
I agree...but I thought the general consensus was that it wouldn't destroy the world if he were allowed to play... -____-. I only find it odd that it's only now that serious objections are arising.
On March 02 2009 08:41 PH wrote: I agree...but I thought the general consensus was that it wouldn't destroy the world if he were allowed to play... -____-. I only find it odd that it's only now that serious objections are arising.
It's only now that this is coming up because it's only now that I realize he's actually on the roster and he will be playing. I guess at this point it doesn't matter, but it would've been nice to have a vote or discussion at least.
By the way - it's disappointing that Irvine has withdrawn after being one of the first to actually submit me a roster and stuff. Is there anyone from Irvine who would like to take the reigns?
Also - I've updated the website. Please everyone get used to using the website + the forum for everything, it's kinda annoying because half the people are PMing me here, and other people PM me on the forum, and other people msg me on facebook.
Please just use the forum to communicate, and check the site for rules, matchups, map lists, results, etc. It will make this a lot easier / smoother.
I've included the map order for week 2 along with the matches. Please submit lineups in the next few days so I can post them and give adequate practice time.
Game one opened with Bovinian stove'ing our Han...who had never seen the build before and completely fell apart...haha.
I haven't seen the Andromeda match, but the next two were funny as well, with Dino going for scout harass with micro...and Young proxying hatcheries outside the main to back up his lurker contain...
As soon as I get all of the reps, I'll post them up.
On March 02 2009 16:05 Xeris wrote: what do you mean by reformat the schedule? It's just UCSB and UCI (hopefully UCI can come back, since they already have a roster and shit) ...
that would just mean whoever plays them has a BYE.
We still have: SD LA Berkley Davis Riverside
it's do-able, and how it is would make the matches more spread out anyways. Otherwise, the league would just last like 4 weeks =P. win-win I guess.
I'd rather have UCSB and UCI back though :D!
I completely agree. I don't know...I figured it would save time, but I guess it doesn't matter. Carry on!
On March 02 2009 16:16 Creationism wrote: where are the reps gonna be?
I'll find some place to host them and put the link here. I'll probably make a blog about it too. I'm missing one rep (the andro game), but as soon as I get that, I'll rar them up and post.
Hey, I was just wondering how come all the UC don't just merge with csl for right now? I think that one league is good enough for right now. If people still want a separate league, they could create it later. I mean the csl is just like the ucpl except bigger. Anyways, I, personally, am much more interested in an individual league like the one being held by csl. Just a thought.
isn't the scoring system different? xeris has experience organizing these things. iono, we kinda all rallied around his name n it was his idea. UC's have always had that kinda competitive spirit between em i guess lol. but its not gonna happen... probably.... right xeris?
On March 02 2009 20:47 foolsmate wrote: Hey, I was just wondering how come all the UC don't just merge with csl for right now? I think that one league is good enough for right now. If people still want a separate league, they could create it later. I mean the csl is just like the ucpl except bigger. Anyways, I, personally, am much more interested in an individual league like the one being held by csl. Just a thought.
CSL isn't an individual league...they have an effectively similar format as UCPL does.
On March 02 2009 20:51 Creationism wrote: isn't the scoring system different? xeris has experience organizing these things. iono, we kinda all rallied around his name n it was his idea. UC's have always had that kinda competitive spirit between em i guess lol. but its not gonna happen... probably.... right xeris?
It's only Irvine and Berkeley out of the picture, so this isn't done for yet.
"Good match, and it's time to get ready for Week 2. We will have at least two matches this week - UC Berkley vs UC San Diego, and UCLA against UC Davis. If Irvine re-enters the league - they will face UC Irvine."
It might just be me, but I think something is off.
On March 02 2009 20:47 foolsmate wrote: Hey, I was just wondering how come all the UC don't just merge with csl for right now? I think that one league is good enough for right now. If people still want a separate league, they could create it later. I mean the csl is just like the ucpl except bigger. Anyways, I, personally, am much more interested in an individual league like the one being held by csl. Just a thought.
CSL isn't an individual league...they have an effectively similar format as UCPL does.
On March 02 2009 20:51 Creationism wrote: isn't the scoring system different? xeris has experience organizing these things. iono, we kinda all rallied around his name n it was his idea. UC's have always had that kinda competitive spirit between em i guess lol. but its not gonna happen... probably.... right xeris?
It's only Irvine and Berkeley out of the picture, so this isn't done for yet.
Well, what I meant was that apparently CSL along with the team league also has an individual tourny as well. At least that's what it says on their website.
I don't really get it...as an organizer, it really doesn't take me much time to organize these things...like at most a half hour out of my day, and a lot of phone calls and IMs, but I mean...other than that...
I'm entering us for the next season of CSL as well because my players wanted more matches to play in.
so is UCI playing or not... UCI players you guys should just show up and play. honestly id still be happy if people showed up to play rather than have you guys not show just cas your manager dropped out...
On March 05 2009 03:48 JiYan wrote: so is UCI playing or not... UCI players you guys should just show up and play. honestly id still be happy if people showed up to play rather than have you guys not show just cas your manager dropped out...
Agreed. It'd be better to have more teams if possible. The more the merrier.
lol I was shitting bricks when I heard we were still playing Irvine...we have a lineup put together now, so it would be really unfortunate if they didn't show up to play.
That's right...I'm politely calling you out, anteaters. CALLING YOU OUT.
On March 05 2009 17:44 CommanderFluffy wrote: cmon irvine, of the 10 original guys not one of you is willing to step up?
as long as 5 guys show up on sunday im fine with that haha. can we at least get a head count on here how many UCI guys will show up? crap man i could manage for you guys -_-
On March 05 2009 17:44 CommanderFluffy wrote: cmon irvine, of the 10 original guys not one of you is willing to step up?
as long as 5 guys show up on sunday im fine with that haha. can we at least get a head count on here how many UCI guys will show up? crap man i could manage for you guys -_-
problem with just showing up is that you gotta submit a lineup.
Everytime I send Xeris a roster, I also include the real names of our players.
For instance, 1v1 #1: Python T = UCD_deadsteak = Chun Lok Chan 1v1 #2: Destination = P = UCD_tipsycow = Jevons Lui 1v1 #3: Rush Hour 3 = Z = UCD_BurningCow = Tony Lee 1v1 #4: Colloseum = P = UCD-cowtipper = Neal Cheng
Hey, so this isn't a big deal, but recently a conflict came up where I have a commitment on Sundays until 8:30 PM, which means I probably won't get back until 9...is there any way we can push it back? I understand it's kind of ridiculous to reschedule for one person, so yeah if it's not possible don't worry about it...I'll just get someone to handle the stuff on Sundays. I was just kind of hoping 9 might be better for other people as well.
On March 06 2009 18:25 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: Everytime I send Xeris a roster, I also include the real names of our players.
For instance, 1v1 #1: Python T = UCD_deadsteak = Chun Lok Chan 1v1 #2: Destination = P = UCD_tipsycow = Jevons Lui 1v1 #3: Rush Hour 3 = Z = UCD_BurningCow = Tony Lee 1v1 #4: Colloseum = P = UCD-cowtipper = Neal Cheng
On March 06 2009 20:05 Centric wrote: Brian, I don't care about this at all, but just to let you know, Neal Chang (UCD-cowtipper) is not on your roster.
he should be, I just didn't update the site, my FTP was down the other day and haven't done it yet. but all their guys are legit.
By the way, I just wanted to mention that you couldn't find more mannered opponents than UC Davis. They were truly a great sport, even in losing. They are far more mannered than us, since apparently randomKo_Orean thinks UCLA is BM . Just kidding.
nope , UCI still is being lame as fuck and not wanting to participate. I think Ogenki vs pandabearguy was pretty entertaining (at least from what I heard) - I think random_korean will try to get the replays posted.
BTW site is updated, so check for news and results and standings etc
I've only seen the three games where we lost...haha. I think our terran, Han, gets too nervous in these...in practice, he's one of the strongest on our team...haha. maGma syndrome. ):
On March 16 2009 16:59 PH wrote: I've only seen the three games where we lost...haha. I think our terran, Han, gets too nervous in these...in practice, he's one of the strongest on our team...haha. maGma syndrome. ):
on the site it says submit by monday night, and it'll be posted by tuesday, i assume it should be submitted in some private fashion,like thru forum pm?
On March 17 2009 19:42 medic27 wrote: on the site it says submit by monday night, and it'll be posted by tuesday, i assume it should be submitted in some private fashion,like thru forum pm?
Well if I PM the roster, UCSD will know our line-up before we know theirs. Not to say I don't trust you Xeris, but I just want to make sure it's fair...
On March 17 2009 19:42 medic27 wrote: on the site it says submit by monday night, and it'll be posted by tuesday, i assume it should be submitted in some private fashion,like thru forum pm?
Well if I PM the roster, UCSD will know our line-up before we know theirs. Not to say I don't trust you Xeris, but I just want to make sure it's fair...
how would they know before us if you pm to xeris and he doesnt post till after both lineups are due?
On March 17 2009 19:42 medic27 wrote: on the site it says submit by monday night, and it'll be posted by tuesday, i assume it should be submitted in some private fashion,like thru forum pm?
Well if I PM the roster, UCSD will know our line-up before we know theirs. Not to say I don't trust you Xeris, but I just want to make sure it's fair...
how would they know before us if you pm to xeris and he doesnt post till after both lineups are due?
Xeris manages the UCSD roster, so if he wanted to, theoretically he could wait for me to send our roster and then change his.
On March 17 2009 20:22 randomKo_Orean wrote: centric: we already have a lineup all set-up don't worry
I'm playing random this round :D
What's the fairest way to do this? Maybe I can IM Xeris or something and we can send the line-ups at the same time? Or we can send it to a trusted middle man.
On March 17 2009 20:22 randomKo_Orean wrote: centric: we already have a lineup all set-up don't worry
I'm playing random this round :D
What's the fairest way to do this? Maybe I can IM Xeris or something and we can send the line-ups at the same time? Or we can send it to a trusted middle man.
He IM'd me in handling the lineups for last week's match. Just do that.
On March 19 2009 10:03 randomKo_Orean wrote: xeris: can you update thread? with latest week count and matchups and standing of sort? Blind: Dino is protoss zerg on the other hand, not fun in andro :/
Just rape with that queer corsair/reaver madness...):
On March 05 2009 17:44 CommanderFluffy wrote: cmon irvine, of the 10 original guys not one of you is willing to step up?
as long as 5 guys show up on sunday im fine with that haha. can we at least get a head count on here how many UCI guys will show up? crap man i could manage for you guys -_-
problem with just showing up is that you gotta submit a lineup.
yea, but honestly if the choice is 5 guys show up with no lineup and play vs no guys show up because no one submitted a lineup, id play the 5 guys.
Hahaha this is so awesome, I'm going to be at UCLA next year. If there isn't already one by then(sorry, I haven't read through all 36 pages of this awesome thread), I'll start one Xp
So excited now! Gl and hf everyone! Love to see the collegiate tourneys starting everywhere :D
On April 04 2009 11:55 Icarus wrote: Hahaha this is so awesome, I'm going to be at UCLA next year. If there isn't already one by then(sorry, I haven't read through all 36 pages of this awesome thread), I'll start one Xp
So excited now! Gl and hf everyone! Love to see the collegiate tourneys starting everywhere :D
Yeah there is. If you're still interested next year (and if the UCPL or CSL is still going on) shoot me a PM and I'll get you involved.
On April 06 2009 07:19 goliathoffline wrote: i think we should have an all star team (a couple players from each school) to send to the CSL and have regular UCPL next year as well.
A bunch of UC's already have their own CSL teams. I think UCLA will just have the UCPL team play as the CSL team, just so it's easier to keep things organized.
On April 06 2009 07:19 goliathoffline wrote: i think we should have an all star team (a couple players from each school) to send to the CSL and have regular UCPL next year as well.
UC schools are pretty big. Each UC school has enough talent to compete individually in the CSL.
Hrmm, I think it'd be cool to have them like posted on Xeris' website somewhere even. Also PH, did you play in the last couple rounds? which is your aka?
On April 07 2009 07:42 phase wrote: Hrmm, I think it'd be cool to have them like posted on Xeris' website somewhere even. Also PH, did you play in the last couple rounds? which is your aka?
No...I'm a terrible player, so I just organize the players. My ID is UCR_PH. I haven't played any games so far...and probably won't...lol.
On April 07 2009 07:42 phase wrote: Hrmm, I think it'd be cool to have them like posted on Xeris' website somewhere even. Also PH, did you play in the last couple rounds? which is your aka?
I'll update the website tomorrow guys, sorry for the lack of that lately.
I've updated the website ! Please check your rosters and make sure everything is current. If not, shoot me a PM and I'll get it updated.
Also, since the first season is winding down - I'd like to ask again if anyone from UCI or UCSD (or other UC's that I'm missing, Merced???) are interested in forming teams and participating. The next season will probably start sometime near the end of May... so there is a lot of time left to put a team together!
On April 08 2009 02:26 Xeris wrote: I've updated the website ! Please check your rosters and make sure everything is current. If not, shoot me a PM and I'll get it updated.
Also, since the first season is winding down - I'd like to ask again if anyone from UCI or UCSD (or other UC's that I'm missing, Merced???) are interested in forming teams and participating. The next season will probably start sometime near the end of May... so there is a lot of time left to put a team together!
I think we (UCI) would now. Just to show that I wasn't kidding about my reasons for last season, I got a 3.5 GPA last quarter and boosted my suffering overall GPA by .3 points, lol. This quarter I'm not really taking any major courses so it shouldn't be too bad for me. I imagine we'd get a week or two of games off since finals are in June...
i will be entering UCSD. can i talk to the captain ? and how can i join the team? along with my friends that are also entering sd. we were the best in our highschool haha
On April 09 2009 07:08 randomKo_Orean wrote: Our captain is Xeris]eX[ AKA duran.
You can join the team by asking him, no need to tryout. Most of our players are D+/C-. Our starting 4 normally is around B-/C+ level. BTW, I don't think you can join the team unless are you actually attending as undergrad. *cough cal*
I will send a quick email to all my members, but it is Picnic day this weekend for us, sorry for the lack of a team at the moment. I will try to get a line-up by Saturday.
On April 18 2009 11:36 Xeris wrote: since when did graphics determine professionalism? TeamLiquid is pretty profession and is the ugliest site in the world.
Graphics don't determine anything, but it definitely can convey and suggest.
**UCLA wins tiebreak vs Riverside & San Diego (because they won), San Diego wins tiebreak vs Riverside... playoffs: UCB (1) vs Riverside (4) and UCLA (2) vs UCSD (3)