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* Positions : 2 Players ( 5, 11) * Tileset : Jungle World * Dimensions : 112×128 * Version : 1.0 * Author : 송기범 (Song Ki Bum) (skb9728_CyGnus) ![[image loading]](http://www.fomos.kr/board/issue/1231485483_2.jpg) ▶ 비잔티움 (Byzantium) 2.3 * Positions : 4 Players (1, 5, 7,11) * Tileset : Twilight * Dimensions : 128×128 * Version : 2.3 * Author : 송기범 (Song Ki Bum) (skb9728_CyGnus) ![[image loading]](http://www.fomos.kr/board/issue/1231485483_3.jpg) The other two maps being used will be Shin Chungpungmyeongwol (Neo Harmony) and Destination. Maps will be available to download on the 15th (first day of MSL) | ||
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Osaka27172 Posts
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GTR
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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village_idiot
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keit
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![[image loading]](http://pici.se/pictures/bQKapQtkA.gif) Here's the changes, a bit less mineralpatches in the new one it seems | ||
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
Both maps look Zerg friendly, especially the new Byzantium | ||
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prOxi.Beater
Denmark626 Posts
Byzantium still sucks but at least Carthage is looking pretty decent | ||
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On January 09 2009 22:37 prOxi.Beater wrote: Carthage has an enormous amount of places where you can put proxies. I don't think it'll be a zerg graveyard since at least it'll be really easy to secure a 3rd gas, and once defilers are out hills favor zerg more than terran. ZvP will probably be hard since it's now protoss who can secure that 3rd gas really easily, although the toss will become very vulnerable to drops and counter attacks once he extends out beyond that. Byzantium still sucks but at least Carthage is looking pretty decent wow I can't believe I didn't see that 3rd gas ;; I thought it was mineral only | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
Don't really like the look of Carthage but who knows. Maybe it will turn out to be a good map. | ||
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village_idiot
2436 Posts
On January 09 2009 22:39 Lebesgue wrote: So they decreased the number of mineral patches in nat and 3rd... Hmm... But I have to say I generally don't like Byzantium. Don't really like the look of Carthage but who knows. Maybe it will turn out to be a good map. They did that to boost Zerg a bit. Or a lot. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On January 09 2009 22:08 GTR-2-Go wrote: Shin Chungpungmyeongwol holy crap | ||
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
I also love 2 player maps. | ||
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Chameleon
United States604 Posts
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Geo.Rion
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rekluce
United States51 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
On the other hand, Byzantium is boring and still sucks. | ||
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Lebesgue
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Wonders
Australia753 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9950 Posts
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On January 10 2009 00:18 Wonders wrote: It looks like the mapmakers are trying to make maps better for zerg. Can someone confirm that there's only 7 patches in the main on Carthage? yeah I count 7. It looks like 5 because the picture got minimized but I am pretty sure it is 7. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On January 10 2009 00:19 MrHoon wrote: yeah I count 7. It looks like 5 because the picture got minimized but I am pretty sure it is 7. dunno. I count 8. I think there is no gap in the mineral line but I'm not sure. The natural has for sure only 7 though. | ||
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Abydos1
United States832 Posts
On January 10 2009 01:27 Lebesgue wrote: dunno. I count 8. I think there is no gap in the mineral line but I'm not sure. The natural has for sure only 7 though. I count 8 as well in the main. Carthage looks like it should be an interesting map. PvT probably will see a lot of proxies; it looks like it will be hard to flank a Terran push so we might see a lot of recalls or carriers. | ||
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t_co
United States702 Posts
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village_idiot
2436 Posts
On January 10 2009 00:19 MrHoon wrote: yeah I count 7. It looks like 5 because the picture got minimized but I am pretty sure it is 7. Really? Seven is very interesting. Let's see how Z fares on this map. | ||
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stambe
Bulgaria492 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 10 2009 02:19 village_idiot wrote: There is definitely 8 mineral patches, not 7Really? Seven is very interesting. Let's see how Z fares on this map. | ||
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Frits
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Piste
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Frits
11782 Posts
On January 10 2009 03:02 Piste wrote: Oh god, pussy zergs needed new maps to win. As things are right now it's more like protoss needed a challenge. | ||
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
and p cant wall off the third as easily in pvt. awesome. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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ExaltedElegance
United States81 Posts
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KreaGata
United States1702 Posts
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Pioneer
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
On January 10 2009 00:19 RaGe wrote: Wow, I like Carthage. It's going to be a huge proxyfest PvT though. Seriously, so many sneaky places to put your buildings | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
On January 10 2009 04:59 Equinox_kr wrote: Seriously, so many sneaky places to put your buildings This was my very first thought | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
On January 10 2009 03:39 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: I like the 2 paths separated by the temples in Carthage. Reminds me a tad of Monty Hall. Lets see how many temples are there XD, looks good... Will make carrier or arbiter a fucking bitch for T but we will see, this means terran will have to end the batlel on mid game or T is fuck, also P will proxy like hell to avoid the mid game deadly push by T... Zerg is going to own shit with so many gas XD Also in Byazntinum the change is that they place the patch that took from natural to the mineral only and they move a litlel the extractors on the 3 and 9 expansions O.O | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
Also, it looks like another macro map though, the 3rd is very very easy to secure in TvP/ZvP. | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
On January 09 2009 22:37 MrHoon wrote: wow. Seems like the Zerg player complains have come to their attention once again Both maps look Zerg friendly, especially the new Byzantium you are crazy, zvp is impossible on byzantium; across all versions zergs are 3-10 and those wins have come over Tester, BestGod, and BackHo. | ||
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Descent
1244 Posts
On January 10 2009 05:09 blabber wrote: anyone notice the dimensions for Carthage? It's 112x128 Yeah, I noticed and was wondering about that, too. Also, the map maker was the same as Byzantium's creator? It's probably trivial, but I wonder if there's anything significant about that fact -- e.g., is the Korean professional map making community shrinking? | ||
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SlickR12345
Macedonia408 Posts
Otherwise positions and everything is same! | ||
Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Jenia6109
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Also, so little snow tilesets :'( | ||
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mIsUZu
New Zealand528 Posts
guess they trying to balance things out with 6dragons in imbal mode and all.. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 10 2009 07:43 Descent wrote: nope! it just happens to be the same guyYeah, I noticed and was wondering about that, too. Also, the map maker was the same as Byzantium's creator? It's probably trivial, but I wonder if there's anything significant about that fact -- e.g., is the Korean professional map making community shrinking? | ||
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GTR
51576 Posts
All the others are contracted to KeSPA AFAIK. | ||
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Puosu
7012 Posts
On January 11 2009 19:20 GTR-2-Go wrote: CyGnus is MBC's official map creator like how Rose.of.Dream is OGN's. All the others are contracted to KeSPA AFAIK. Any idea about the "officiality" of their job, can they do it for living or is it more of a hobby? | ||
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
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GTR
51576 Posts
On January 11 2009 19:27 Puosu wrote: Any idea about the "officiality" of their job, can they do it for living or is it more of a hobby? My guesses is that they get paid x for each map they make and depending on the quality of it they get a y bonus. | ||
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YEAHHHH BOIIII
United States238 Posts
On January 10 2009 05:28 Crunchums wrote: you are crazy, zvp is impossible on byzantium; across all versions zergs are 3-10 and those wins have come over Tester, BestGod, and BackHo. I'm not going to deny existence of imbalance, but Byzantium is 0-7 for Zergs while Byzantium II is 3-3. Surely the changes had to have an effect? | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6184 Posts
On January 15 2009 18:13 Kentor wrote: can we download carthage yet? from OP: Maps will be available to download on the 15th (first day of MSL) | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On January 15 2009 20:08 FaCE_1 wrote: from OP: Maps will be available to download on the 15th (first day of MSL) It's january 15th at least if you're in asia lol | ||
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