▶ 카르타고 (Carthage) 1.0
* Positions : 2 Players ( 5, 11)
* Tileset : Jungle World
* Dimensions : 112×128
* Version : 1.0
* Author : 송기범 (Song Ki Bum) (skb9728_CyGnus)

▶ 비잔티움 (Byzantium) 2.3
* Positions : 4 Players (1, 5, 7,11)
* Tileset : Twilight
* Dimensions : 128×128
* Version : 2.3
* Author : 송기범 (Song Ki Bum) (skb9728_CyGnus)

The other two maps being used will be Shin Chungpungmyeongwol (Neo Harmony) and Destination.

Maps will be available to download on the 15th (first day of MSL)

Manifesto7

Osaka27178 Posts

January 09 2009 13:11 GMT

What are the changes on Byzantuim? (I dont know the original well enough to tell)

GTR

51699 Posts

January 09 2009 13:18 GMT

That's what I was figuring out too, but what I could minutely gather with my bad Korean, 1'o clock has been adjusted a bit.

Heyoka

Katowice25012 Posts

January 09 2009 13:23 GMT

My map season, my favorite season

village_idiot

2436 Posts

January 09 2009 13:30 GMT

Carthage looks like another Zerg graveyard.

keit

1584 Posts

January 09 2009 13:32 GMT

Here's the changes, a bit less mineralpatches in the new one it seems

ChaoSbringer

Australia1382 Posts

January 09 2009 13:32 GMT

No min only expo's on Carthage, interesting. I wonder if the gas is 2500 rather than 5000 in some of the further away expos. I guess the maker took what the OGN commentator in advice, about giving toss free expos. Though I think Carthage looks sorta boring. I never really liked Byzantium much as a map, and don't like how they seem to have stuck with it despite the predecessors questionable balance. (Didn't like RotK either).

MrHoon

10183 Posts

January 09 2009 13:37 GMT

wow. Seems like the Zerg player complains have come to their attention once again

Both maps look Zerg friendly, especially the new Byzantium

prOxi.Beater

Denmark626 Posts

January 09 2009 13:37 GMT

Carthage has an enormous amount of places where you can put proxies. I don't think it'll be a zerg graveyard since at least it'll be really easy to secure a 3rd gas, and once defilers are out hills favor zerg more than terran. ZvP will probably be hard since it's now protoss who can secure that 3rd gas really easily, although the toss will become very vulnerable to drops and counter attacks once he extends out beyond that.

Byzantium still sucks but at least Carthage is looking pretty decent

MrHoon

10183 Posts

January 09 2009 13:39 GMT

#10

On January 09 2009 22:37 prOxi.Beater wrote:
Carthage has an enormous amount of places where you can put proxies. I don't think it'll be a zerg graveyard since at least it'll be really easy to secure a 3rd gas, and once defilers are out hills favor zerg more than terran. ZvP will probably be hard since it's now protoss who can secure that 3rd gas really easily, although the toss will become very vulnerable to drops and counter attacks once he extends out beyond that.

Byzantium still sucks but at least Carthage is looking pretty decent

wow I can't believe I didn't see that 3rd gas ;; I thought it was mineral only

Lebesgue

4542 Posts

January 09 2009 13:39 GMT

#11

So they decreased the number of mineral patches in nat and 3rd... Hmm... But I have to say I generally don't like Byzantium.

Don't really like the look of Carthage but who knows. Maybe it will turn out to be a good map.

village_idiot

2436 Posts

January 09 2009 13:50 GMT

#12

On January 09 2009 22:39 Lebesgue wrote:
So they decreased the number of mineral patches in nat and 3rd... Hmm... But I have to say I generally don't like Byzantium.

Don't really like the look of Carthage but who knows. Maybe it will turn out to be a good map.

They did that to boost Zerg a bit.

Or a lot.

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

January 09 2009 14:05 GMT

#13

On January 09 2009 22:08 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Shin Chungpungmyeongwol

holy crap

anotak

United States1537 Posts

January 09 2009 14:10 GMT

#14

Carthage shocks me of how well thought out it's made. Not sure if I like the neutral temples in the middle but I'm generally a hater with regards to neutral buildings and shit like that on maps. Maps should be back to basics. Carthage looks fun tvp, carriers might be strong though.don't think they'll be katrina-strong through. I think you might be able to drop a ghost behind the nat on carthage.... not sure on that.

I also love 2 player maps.

Chameleon

United States604 Posts

January 09 2009 14:11 GMT

#15

Doesnt look like much room for a big toss army to flank a big terran push. Carriers could be brutal though.

Geo.Rion

7377 Posts

January 09 2009 14:18 GMT

#16

fuck the new map doesnt looks too great... Zergs gonna have hard time to get their 3rd early on, it looks like a protoss heaven with the open areas, wallin-able expo, many alternate ways to reach the other expos, easy falnk options. I dont know, it might suit zergs the lack of mineralpatches on gas-expoes, but it looks like a toss map. Carriers should be fine too

rekluce

United States51 Posts

January 09 2009 15:01 GMT

#17

carthage seems to be another one of theos chupung / peaks of beduku types maps

meegrean

Thailand7699 Posts

January 09 2009 15:09 GMT

#18

Okay, this map is a bit like Longinus and Tau Cross combined, except that it's a two-player map so I would expect a lot of games with proxies. Hard to judge though, so I would like to see some games on it first.

On the other hand, Byzantium is boring and still sucks.