EPTOn October 23 2008 01:40 disciple wrote:
cola or pepsi
cola or pepsi
easy choice
Ultralisk or Archon - Page 2
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On October 23 2008 01:53 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote: Archons cost a lot less mins, but slightly more gas. Archons do a lot more damage than ultras ultras have lots more armor than archons (esp at that point in the game) ultras probably have dark swarm on their side archons have psistorm on their side they regen health at about the same time ultras need lings to be effective (even amount of gas, archons > ultras in general) zerg should have more bases to go ultra, so, once again, it counters the more min cost. you need more ultras than you need archons (toss needs less bases). This thread isn't that helpful for....anything. but he wants to compare unit to unit. its theory ofc. | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
Premise A: Diet soda tastes worse than regular soda. (d) = diet Pepsi tastes like diet Coke. Pepsi == Coke(d) Coke(d) < Coke Pepsi < Coke Sorry for not stating the rules. I completely forgot the laws. | ||
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capek
United States585 Posts
i hated the fact that you couldn't broodling an archon but you could do it to an ultra. | ||
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
On October 23 2008 04:10 Archaic wrote: Premise A: Diet soda tastes worse than regular soda. (d) = diet Pepsi tastes like diet Coke. Pepsi == Coke(d) Coke(d) < Coke Pepsi < Coke Sorry for not stating the rules. I completely forgot the laws. More simply put, Pepsi is overloaded with sugar and thus tastes a hell of a lot worse than Coca Cola. And when I think about it, Pepsi DOES taste like Diet Cola. | ||
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inlagdsil
Canada957 Posts
In other words: archons > ultralisks archons < ultraling | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
If the numbers are even, archons will win, hands down. | ||
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andrey3332
Romania15 Posts
arcon / zelot > ultraling HT / arcon / zelot > defiler / ultraling but if there are lots of spreaded lurkers around all protoss army vanishes in seconds  (( i hate when that happens | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
The only WEAKNESS archons have is they take full damage from all unit types, and are made completely useless in the face of EMP. | ||
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
On October 23 2008 05:21 Eatme wrote: The most annoying thing is that the unit that plauge looks "best" on is the archon. It's also the unit that takes least effect by the spell. I know. I always feel so proud of myself getting them plagued until I realize how much of a waste it is. | ||
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
stronger=archon. | ||
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lololol
5198 Posts
It's just that zerg's economy is better(and they have swarm) or ultralisks wouldn't be as viable. Just imagine Zerg with Archons and Toss with Ultralisks, ling/archon would rape so bad :D | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On October 23 2008 02:00 FrozenArbiter wrote: On the topic of dark swarm in PvZ vs archons, I don't know if he was THE first, but Twisted (like, the Tl.net Twisted) was definitely one of the first zerg players to use swarm vs mass archons  Just like how rekrul/american tosses started using arbiters PvT a while before they became popular among progamers. Didn't see anyone else use it at that time, not progamers and not top foreign players and no-one actually knew this. I remember a game against hexer where he would not believe me, I won the game and we did the test at the end of the game with an archon against an ultra under swarm. Archon did 5 damage  .Yay I can still gloat in 2008 ;D | ||
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Bozali
Sweden155 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
1. Many units do no do full damage to them becaus of their large unit size(i.e vultures). 2. They can have a total of 6(!!!!) armour. 3. For the same cost archons have a total of 360HP, ultralisks have 400 4. You can upgrade ultralisk speed 5. You just 'S'U' and done, a group of ultralisks, no need to merge anything to get them 6. They do full damage under dark swarm 7. They cost a 1:1 mineral:gas ratio, which can be maintained easier than paying 300 gas instead of 200 gas, minerals aren't too big of a problem for zerg, it usually just goes to adding more lings to the army, which wouldn't be effective against storm/archons/MnMs anyway. I'm sure archons have advantages too like higher damage, can hit air, splash, but even after considering those it still appears that ultralisks are 'better'. | ||
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stenole
Norway869 Posts
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On October 23 2008 09:22 stenole wrote: I'd say archons because they don't leave a mess when they die. xD.... arcrhons just go directly into another dragoon, and then they make a mess... | ||
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sqwert
United States781 Posts
On October 23 2008 01:40 disciple wrote: cola or pepsi coke | ||
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