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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
He said that fully upgraded ultras can beat an archon who has full ups as well. But I said that upgraded or not they take all down. Now the weird thing that happened when we checked is that (ofc archon wins unupgraded) with both upgraded its random (regardless of who hit first on inital contact). You see an archon fires at a steady rate, but an ultralisk can sometimes hit twice consecutively faster as well as its normal attack speed pace. So it was about 50/50 after ten tries. | ||
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xhuwin
United States476 Posts
On October 23 2008 04:44 inlagdsil wrote: Archons are stronger alone. Ultralisks' main goal is to soak up damage, so they become super effective with high damage low HP support units. In other words: archons > ultralisks archons < ultraling I always feel that archons die really really fast alone, even when you have 6+ of them. You need zealots as meat shields. And that works out nicely because you have all those extra minerals anyway. It's kind of reversed for zerg, I guess, in that lings do damage, and ultras are meat shields. Also, an archon army is something you build up slowly over the course of the game... ultras can be mass produced and are easier to replace. | ||
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DarkRidley6
United States24 Posts
trial 1: archon won with 6 hp leftover trail 2: ultra won with 9 hp leftover trail 3: ultra won with 8 hp leftover tomorrow ill repeat the trial several more times like this as well as modify the map to do it with 12 of each unit and see how that turns out. on a side note i was bored earlier and made an Excel file which i used to calculate the damage per second (ok... unit of time, but ill use second for simplicity) for each individual unit and the damage per second per supply (i chose supply since thats the only factor that effects how many units you can have, usually), the results of this were quite interesting, but thats probably something for a different topic (which i might make tomorrow when i get done with my classes | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
archons wtfpwn me -> archons are overpowered | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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Februarys
Korea (South)259 Posts
On October 23 2008 13:37 VIB wrote: It's rather obvious that archons are op. Look, it's a very simple math: archons wtfpwn me -> archons are overpowered To tell you the truth, I didn't even vote  Thanks for assuming | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
Doesn't this seem like a conversation that should have been had ten years ago? | ||
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
On October 23 2008 10:34 CharlieMurphy wrote: I actually had a bet with my friend that an Archon is the strongest single unit in SC the other day. (It can take any unit in the game 1 on 1 with no micro). He said that fully upgraded ultras can beat an archon who has full ups as well. But I said that upgraded or not they take all down. Now the weird thing that happened when we checked is that (ofc archon wins unupgraded) with both upgraded its random (regardless of who hit first on inital contact). You see an archon fires at a steady rate, but an ultralisk can sometimes hit twice consecutively faster as well as its normal attack speed pace. So it was about 50/50 after ten tries. That's wierd CharlieMurphay I figured you would have back the Ultralisk lol | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On October 23 2008 14:02 cgrinker wrote: As a Terran player mass archons are never going to be a problem for me as it would be like EMP one siege shot and they are all dead GGNoRe. Ultralisks for the win Doesn't this seem like a conversation that should have been had ten years ago? err i think that this is archon vs the ultralisk in a fight LOL ? | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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omfghi2u2
United States831 Posts
On October 23 2008 10:34 CharlieMurphy wrote: I actually had a bet with my friend that an Archon is the strongest single unit in SC the other day. (It can take any unit in the game 1 on 1 with no micro). He said that fully upgraded ultras can beat an archon who has full ups as well. But I said that upgraded or not they take all down. Now the weird thing that happened when we checked is that (ofc archon wins unupgraded) with both upgraded its random (regardless of who hit first on inital contact). You see an archon fires at a steady rate, but an ultralisk can sometimes hit twice consecutively faster as well as its normal attack speed pace. So it was about 50/50 after ten tries. very interesting. | ||
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 23 2008 05:10 WhatisProtoss wrote: Mass archons are the perfect counter for ultralisk/zergling. If the numbers are even, archons will win, hands down. Zealot/Archon is more cost-effective than pure Archons because cheap zealots keep your expensive Archons from dying. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Wolverine
138 Posts
Edit: Damn I'm an idiot, I've just read the first post on this page. OK how about Archon vs Ultralisk in 1.0? | ||
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Weryeery
288 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On October 23 2008 21:03 Weryeery wrote: Watch JD vs free and laugh! | ||
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Piste
6177 Posts
I hate when I counter zerg's ultraling by massing archons and then they suddenly brings 1-2groups of hydras into play and dodge storms. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On October 23 2008 21:03 Weryeery wrote: Watch JD vs free and laugh! | ||
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