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MrHoon
10183 Posts
Cheater Terran, Sashin and the Ultimate Weapon (Shinmugi)
What did these dominant players achieve something the Legend Killer, Dreamer, Genius, God of War, Hero, Maestro, Revolutionist and even the Emperor couldn't achieve?
17 Straight wins on Proleague
These 3 players are the so-called 17-Hitters in Korea. During their peak they were nearly untouchable and unbreakable. oov, the first one to set this record tore everything apart until the God of War made him kneel. Anytime was later stopped at the same manner. While it was believed Flash would be the first to break the 2 legend's record was stopped by none other than the Devil's Apprentice BeSt.
With 1 retired, the other in the army and 1 FAILING HARD (WIN GOM OR U PHAIL), who will be the next to achieve or break the 17 PL record?
Note: I wrote a 5 page blog about this on MSword, I reviewed it right now and let me tell you it was the worst POS I've ever written. So I just shortened it like this 
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What's jaedong's longest win streak?
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On October 17 2008 23:01 Glider wrote:
What's jaedong's longest win streak?
Check the TLPD
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Very interesting! Hmm.. to be honest I only see Jaedong with the greatest potential to hit that record.
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MrHoon
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On October 17 2008 23:04 village_idiot wrote:Check the TLPD
remember this only applies to Proleague, so yeah don't come in here and say OMG FLASH DOESNT HAV 17 WINZ U LIE
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JD will break the record.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
I'm just happy that Pusan has 11 straight Ace match victories
i wonder how many nal_ra had
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The Devil's Apprentice GO
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Free had 17 wins in PL too last year season 1.
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On October 17 2008 23:28 Plexa wrote:
I'm just happy that Pusan has 11 straight Ace match victories
i wonder how many nal_ra had
I think it was like 9 straight or something.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
hum i wonder who has the most straight ace victories.. probably anytime
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anytime is a straight up fucking pimp
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just make BeSt play only vs P in Proleague and he will have 50 win streak
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Backho to end his losing streak and start the greatest winning streak ever?
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iloveoov had a 16 win streak in the MBC Team Leagues, too 
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who has the longest losing streak? and how many lost it was?
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Is there something special about the number 17?
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oov's 36-0(?) vs zerg was imba tho
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isn't iloveoov in jail? for robbery.
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wow, I never knew Anytime was such a dominant player in the past. I wish I had followed the pro scene since the beginnning. 
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On October 17 2008 23:59 Ideas wrote:
Backho to end his losing streak and start the greatest winning streak ever?
Yes and afterwards world War 3 begins! 
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On October 18 2008 01:06 SassO wrote:isn't iloveoov in jail? for robbery.
huhw tf
-0 -;;
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Flash needs to get his shit together. His rivalry with Jaedong for the best all-mu player made BW fun while it lasted.
The lil f**ker just got too arrogant when he was on top.
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MrHoon
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On October 18 2008 01:17 .risingdragoon wrote:
Flash needs to get his shit together. His rivalry with Jaedong for the best all-mu player made BW fun while it lasted.
The lil f**ker just got too arrogant when he was on top.
Yeah I wish flash gets back, JD vs Flash were ALWAYS fun to watch
Then I saw that PIECE OF SHIT game between Flash and JD recently
I really hope Flash picks his shit up because I really want this rivalry to stay longer
edit: And I don't think its an arrogance problem, he just started losing mad confidence. If you watch his games couple months ago and compare it to the ones these days, the current ones are Bland, boring, and weak. The old games he played his plays looked powerful, exciting and etc. I guess ever since Luxury and Forgg, and that 3:0 from JD he just started losing it.
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No, he was arrogant. It was clearly mad arrogance in that BO5 he played vs Lomo.
Dude thinks he can do whatever and win. Well, you can't! Overconfidence = arrogance.
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On October 18 2008 01:06 SassO wrote:isn't iloveoov in jail? for robbery.
it's ogogo u noob
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On October 18 2008 01:06 SassO wrote:isn't iloveoov in jail? for robbery.
noob
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On October 18 2008 01:40 Elvin_vn wrote:it's ogogo u noob
oohhh ya, ogogo! i forgot hahahaahha thanks :D
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Wow, I never knew this about oov (or flash/anytime for that matter.)
Surprising
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Best or JD, or even FBH if he stops turtle and start kicking some massive Toss asses...
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He stole my heart when he retired ;..;
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On October 18 2008 01:39 .risingdragoon wrote:
No, he was arrogant. It was clearly mad arrogance in that BO5 he played vs Lomo.
Dude thinks he can do whatever and win. Well, you can't! Overconfidence = arrogance.
Overconfidence is an error in judgment. Arrogance is a character flaw. You can't tell which of the two Flash suffers from because you don't know the kid. And the series against Lomo was fucking great by the way.
Ehh... hopefully you were just being sarcastic.
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whos got the longest loosing streak?
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Flash did get cocky before. He just used the same build over and over again, didn't scout, and just rolled over his opponent. Then Best took advantage of his lack of scouting. And then everyone else did.
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I think Flash will come back in time. I'm not a fan of him, but the kid is fucking nuts when he's on his game.
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On October 17 2008 23:41 deathgodtoss wrote:
anytime is a straight up fucking pimp
that picture makes him look like sex.
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United States17042 Posts
On October 18 2008 03:00 parkin wrote:
whos got the longest loosing streak?
Me. or other people who haven't really made it. x_X.
Pusan and Anytime should both be remembered as players in proleague who were always clutch in ace matches.
Next in proleague? at 17 straight, it's almost as much luck as it is skill. Sure, you need to be a dominant player, but you also need to be able to fend off almost any cheese that comes your way. I'm thinking that Savior 2009 sounds like a good answer for this one xD
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On October 18 2008 03:00 parkin wrote:
whos got the longest loosing streak?
lol i think savior has the longest losing streak
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who had longest winning strike if you count everything?
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Flash will do it...hes not done yet!
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jaedong has it.
He'll be playing mostly zvz on raid assult 2
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Yeah i thought the same too. Anything special about the 17?
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On October 18 2008 01:06 SassO wrote:isn't iloveoov in jail? for robbery.
you mean ogogo.
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Honestly I think this is just a matter of luck. I mean, suppose that 10 players are all equally good during their prime, and all have an 80% chance to win any game. Even at 80%, 17 in a row is unlikely, so it's not unsurprising that only 3/10 would ever get 17 in a row.
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On October 18 2008 05:58 SassO wrote:
Yeah i thought the same too. Anything special about the 17?
longest win streak by any progamer
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On October 18 2008 04:19 purgerinho wrote:
who had longest winning strike if you count everything?
GoRush if you count Kespa officiated matches only.
I believe Yellow actually has the longest winning streak of any progamer if you count everything.
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On October 17 2008 23:28 Plexa wrote:
I'm just happy that Pusan has 11 straight Ace match victories
i wonder how many nal_ra had
Is there a hidden feature in TLPD that tells you which games were ace games or just something you knew because of whatever reason?
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I thought Jaedong had like 12 or 13 PL wins in a row.
Couldn't quite make it to 17.
It's good to remember Anytime's greatness. He will be back soon and uplift the spirits of Ace.
I BELIEVE IN MY PROTOSS GOD!!!!
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Flash will come back this season and win 18 straight in proleague.
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United States2186 Posts
On October 18 2008 06:12 Luddite wrote:
Honestly I think this is just a matter of luck. I mean, suppose that 10 players are all equally good during their prime, and all have an 80% chance to win any game. Even at 80%, 17 in a row is unlikely, so it's not unsurprising that only 3/10 would ever get 17 in a row.
While there is certainly some luck here, it's not unlikely at all that the three most dominant proleague players ever also get this winstreak.
And Flash's slump was at first caused by overuse in proleague, not overconfidence or whatever. He got this record because nearly every game it was Flash>someone in a regular match and then Flash>ace. Thus he went from someone who strategically planned and created a very nice style/builds to someone who was forced to (or simply succumbed to) using similar builds all the time because he couldn't prepare them uniquely anymore. He rode his mental superiority for awhile but when he fell he wasn't going to recover easily.
So far he still hasn't and I don't know when/if that will change. Now he just seems to be trying to ride his mechanics to the top, but Flash's mechanics never have and hopefully never will be the focal point of his success. Only Jaedong can really do this right now, and until Flash rediscovers his own strengths he's sadly going to stick to his current mediocre path.
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On October 18 2008 07:17 SuperJongMan wrote:
I thought Jaedong had like 12 or 13 PL wins in a row.
Couldn't quite make it to 17.
It's good to remember Anytime's greatness. He will be back soon and uplift the spirits of Ace.
I BELIEVE IN MY PROTOSS GOD!!!! He probably did, when I was looking through TLPD I didn't carry wins over from season to season, which I realize is a must if someone is going to hit 17.
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On October 18 2008 02:43 Djabanete wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2008 01:39 .risingdragoon wrote:
No, he was arrogant. It was clearly mad arrogance in that BO5 he played vs Lomo.
Dude thinks he can do whatever and win. Well, you can't! Overconfidence = arrogance. Overconfidence is an error in judgment. Arrogance is a character flaw. You can't tell which of the two Flash suffers from because you don't know the kid. And the series against Lomo was fucking great by the way. Ehh... hopefully you were just being sarcastic.
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I hope you're the one who's sarcastic.
Cus if you're not...
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Anytime. <3. <3~~~~~~
beast!
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
yay my post didn't derail to madagascar :D
Anyways, yeah I was suprised to first hear the 17 hitter thing until I saw some Esports news on MBCgame, where they were talking about how Anytime and oov first set the record and Flash was the first one in years to test it.
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The highest streak for ACE matches has to be Nal_rA
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On October 18 2008 00:32 Pulimuli wrote:
oov's 36-0(?) vs zerg was imba tho
You mean 27-0?
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I don't think BeSt can do it. I'm a huge fan of his, but I don't think he can do it. I will be happy to be proven wrong, too.
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Flash just puts off an aura of arrogance.
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If SKT1 is smart enough to get best to match up against mainly Protoss, then BeSt has a good chance.
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17 straight means that he has to 2-0 stuff like MSL and OSL groups, not to mention any Best of series that he has. Maybe at the beginning of next season but saying that he's going to 3-0 Stork and 3-0 Fantasy and win like 11 Proleague matches all in a row is kind of ridiculous. And don't forget, after Proleague match number, like, 5, people are going to start trying to snipe him. People already probably try to snipe him. He has a much better chance of getting 17-0 during the group stages of tournaments when there's a lot of bung games that are pretty much auto-wins.
Not to mention that BeSt is now under 50% PvZ. It makes me sad.
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 Rage has: 11 losing streak...but I`m sure there are other players with an even bigger losing streak.
Flash, Boxer, oov, Nada, Yellow- they all have a 7 losing streak
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On October 18 2008 15:18 thunk wrote:
17 straight means that he has to 2-0 stuff like MSL and OSL groups, not to mention any Best of series that he has. Maybe at the beginning of next season but saying that he's going to 3-0 Stork and 3-0 Fantasy and win like 11 Proleague matches all in a row is kind of ridiculous. And don't forget, after Proleague match number, like, 5, people are going to start trying to snipe him. People already probably try to snipe him. He has a much better chance of getting 17-0 during the group stages of tournaments when there's a lot of bung games that are pretty much auto-wins.
Not to mention that BeSt is now under 50% PvZ. It makes me sad.
17 straight games in proleague only.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On October 18 2008 15:18 thunk wrote:
17 straight means that he has to 2-0 stuff like MSL and OSL groups, not to mention any Best of series that he has. Maybe at the beginning of next season but saying that he's going to 3-0 Stork and 3-0 Fantasy and win like 11 Proleague matches all in a row is kind of ridiculous. And don't forget, after Proleague match number, like, 5, people are going to start trying to snipe him. People already probably try to snipe him. He has a much better chance of getting 17-0 during the group stages of tournaments when there's a lot of bung games that are pretty much auto-wins.
Not to mention that BeSt is now under 50% PvZ. It makes me sad.
naw, this only applies to Proleague.
Problem with players like Savior and Jaedong is that they will win like 10 games on proleague and lose the 11th one to some amateur. Really hoping a zerg can get the 17 mark
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On October 18 2008 07:12 RamenStyle wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2008 23:28 Plexa wrote:
I'm just happy that Pusan has 11 straight Ace match victories
i wonder how many nal_ra had Is there a hidden feature in TLPD that tells you which games were ace games or just something you knew because of whatever reason? This is just a fact which i know
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flash is the enxt one iloveoov has his form diminished to merely a osund half of wat his skill was so the enxt ones most likely to be able to do it are flash jaedong and maybe jsut maybe savior big risk saying savor especially with his skill levle so low now >> if savior gets a comeback to his old skill he still has about 1 motnh to recover it after that ims ry if i piss savior fans off he will never be savior the old savior again he wotn be able to deafeat flash or ajedong but since flash has iloveoovs macro well almost iloveoovs macro is jsut a tad better but rly flash has the best chance hes overall better than jaedong however jaedong's zvt is by far mroe powerful then flash's tvz
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ok so im looking at decker's post
and all I can say is "what"
I am so confused it is not even a question any more
what
Anyway, flash is sucking hard now and in his current form has no chance of hitting 17-0 in proleague. Not a hope.
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On October 18 2008 18:23 SilverSkyLark wrote:
what does sashin mean?
sa [死: death] sin [神: god] = god of death
i guess anytime got that nickname after (stfu) dt rush against yellow.
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On October 18 2008 19:49 fw wrote:sa [死: death] sin [神: god] = god of death i guess anytime got that nickname after (stfu) dt rush against yellow.
thnx dude..sashin, the characters you typed in aren't Korean...is it Japanese (but I know that Shinigami is God of death) or Chinese?
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United States42685 Posts
On October 18 2008 18:48 decker247[DtYt] wrote:
flash is the next one (possibly saying he'll be the next to hit 17???)
iloveoov has his form diminished to merely a second half of what his skill was (and he quit and became a coach :S) so the next ones most likely to be able to do it (hit 17 straight pl wins?) are flash (who already has, wasn't that the point of this topic?), jaedong and maybe, just maybe, savior.
big risk saying savior, especially with his skill level so low now >>
if savior gets a comeback to his old skill he still has about 1 month to recover it (if he has a comeback it'll have to be this month or it'll be too late?. after that i'm sorry if i piss savior fans off he will never be savior (the old savior) again.
he (savior?) won't be able to defeat flash or jaedong but since flash has iloveoovs macro (well almost, iloveoovs macro is just a tad better). flash has the best chance (of hitting 17 straight pl wins?). he's overall better than jaedong, however jaedong's zvt is more powerful by far then flash's tvz
Best translation I can attempt. Didn't try to salvage any factual accuracy from it like how FlaSh is underperforming atm while Jaedoing is still stronger than ever and sAviOr just isn't relevant to anything.
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Let me introduce you to something called punctuation marks, no, they won't hurt you. Please put them next time, ayt?
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I am glad Anytime set a milestone. He is a Royal Roader too, but 17 straight wins in PL is just insane. It requires to have no weak match up (so I think BeSt will not achieve this) and have an amazing mental strength. Especially in Anytime's case, as quite a lot of these 17 must have been aces.
And WTF is that post, decker??? 9 lines without a single capital or punctuation, lots of abreviations and typos : I couldn't get past the second line. That kind of shit should be insta-ban.
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
On October 18 2008 20:40 SilverSkyLark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2008 19:49 fw wrote:On October 18 2008 18:23 SilverSkyLark wrote:
what does sashin mean? sa [死: death] sin [神: god] = god of death i guess anytime got that nickname after (stfu) dt rush against yellow. thnx dude..sashin, the characters you typed in aren't Korean...is it Japanese (but I know that Shinigami is God of death) or Chinese?
it's chinese characters. sasin is exactly same as shinigami.
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Its Sashin's bday..http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80611
and yeah, even Xellos (Perfect Terran) wasn't able to go 17 straight wins?
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On October 18 2008 19:27 Tropics wrote:
ok so im looking at decker's post
and all I can say is "what"
I am so confused it is not even a question any more
what
Anyway, flash is sucking hard now and in his current form has no chance of hitting 17-0 in proleague. Not a hope.
Lol that one made me laugh Yeah decker's post makes absolutely no friggin sense but just for the hell of it 
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On October 18 2008 19:27 Tropics wrote:
ok so im looking at decker's post
and all I can say is "what"
I am so confused it is not even a question any more
what
Anyway, flash is sucking hard now and in his current form has no chance of hitting 17-0 in proleague. Not a hope.
edit: Dumbest thing I've ever said.
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On October 18 2008 19:27 Tropics wrote:
ok so im looking at decker's post
and all I can say is "what"
I am so confused it is not even a question any more
what
Anyway, flash is sucking hard now and in his current form has no chance of hitting 17-0 in proleague. Not a hope.
I'm wondering if he is dyslexic.
He even misspelled stuff in his quote.
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On October 18 2008 20:40 SilverSkyLark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2008 19:49 fw wrote:On October 18 2008 18:23 SilverSkyLark wrote:
what does sashin mean? sa [死: death] sin [神: god] = god of death i guess anytime got that nickname after (stfu) dt rush against yellow. thnx dude..sashin, the characters you typed in aren't Korean...is it Japanese (but I know that Shinigami is God of death) or Chinese?
A great part of the Korean language is based off of Chinese characters because Korea used Chinese until 500-600 years ago. The Japanese "Kanji" is basically Chinese.
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On October 18 2008 18:48 decker247[DtYt] wrote:
flash is the enxt one iloveoov has his form diminished to merely a osund half of wat his skill was so the enxt ones most likely to be able to do it are flash jaedong and maybe jsut maybe savior big risk saying savor especially with his skill levle so low now >> if savior gets a comeback to his old skill he still has about 1 motnh to recover it after that ims ry if i piss savior fans off he will never be savior the old savior again he wotn be able to deafeat flash or ajedong but since flash has iloveoovs macro well almost iloveoovs macro is jsut a tad better but rly flash has the best chance hes overall better than jaedong however jaedong's zvt is by far mroe powerful then flash's tvz
please spend some effort in making your posts more clear. i don't like getting headaches from just trying to figure out what someone was saying.
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United States3824 Posts
There's only one player that can beat this fantastic record
<This is where the joke is going to go, I'll edit after I go look someone up in the TLPD>
*EDIT*  pepe is going to bring it all home!
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United States3824 Posts
On October 18 2008 20:40 SilverSkyLark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2008 19:49 fw wrote:On October 18 2008 18:23 SilverSkyLark wrote:
what does sashin mean? sa [死: death] sin [神: god] = god of death i guess anytime got that nickname after (stfu) dt rush against yellow. thnx dude..sashin, the characters you typed in aren't Korean...is it Japanese (but I know that Shinigami is God of death) or Chinese?
You've watched BLEACH before congrats!
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On October 19 2008 03:32 cgrinker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2008 20:40 SilverSkyLark wrote:On October 18 2008 19:49 fw wrote:On October 18 2008 18:23 SilverSkyLark wrote:
what does sashin mean? sa [死: death] sin [神: god] = god of death i guess anytime got that nickname after (stfu) dt rush against yellow. thnx dude..sashin, the characters you typed in aren't Korean...is it Japanese (but I know that Shinigami is God of death) or Chinese? You've watched BLEACH before congrats!
OR Deathnote... Better imo.
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OP, could you kindly post the matches?
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Are you going to be exiled from Madagascar for communicating with the outside world?
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Decker's post is like he typed that entire paragraph in another language and just put it into an online translator...
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