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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
September 19 2003 18:47 GMT
#341
On September 20 2003 03:43 Beamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2003 03:35 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
and that it's also a pretty good way to assess the general playing ability of a player.


NO !

The only way to assess the general playing ability of a player is to play against him! (and not just one game... )


Okay... I'll amend it to "relatively good way". It's not a good way, but it's rarely going to be totally off.
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ErOs_Probe
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands680 Posts
September 19 2003 18:50 GMT
#342
high apm helps you in very fast playing. Doesnt mean you are not fast using low apm.
k3 fan.
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-19 18:55:08
September 19 2003 18:54 GMT
#343
Tsunami had an apm of 80-90 being zerg. How many people do U want me to point out that would have gotten raped by him even with much higher apm ??? (when he was still playing)

I think there isn't much to say about his micro, and I still don't see many zergs using the zerg magic users as much and as well as he did.
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
September 19 2003 18:57 GMT
#344
part1: bobo liked to burrow lings


part2: he told everyone that he liked to burrow lings


part3: every terran went scan/bat and every toss went archon and bobo lost every game :[
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
September 19 2003 19:07 GMT
#345
Poor bobo...

But I really don't get the point
ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
September 19 2003 19:07 GMT
#346
Poor bobo the zerling
Ghost Me
Randomizing
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany441 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-19 23:02:47
September 19 2003 23:02 GMT
#347
hmmz well atleast at ygclan.com they think they are themarine and yellow : http://211.233.94.10/?lang=kor&menu=gosureplay&a1=&a2=&order=&action=view&idx=23459&page=1&search=&search_type=

http://211.233.94.10/?lang=kor&menu=gosureplay&a1=&a2=&order=&action=view&idx=23450&page=1&search=&search_type=
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
September 20 2003 00:32 GMT
#348
but bobo beat oarang
oarang has an apm of 300 and likes cannons
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 20 2003 00:48 GMT
#349
arang wasnt trying and bobo beat him zvp
DarkFenix
Profile Joined July 2003
217 Posts
September 20 2003 00:55 GMT
#350
what bout [Z-zonE]Byun for me one old good gamer, with less than 100 apm.Beated lots of good gamers.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
September 20 2003 01:27 GMT
#351
What is the point of naming people who won with low APM? Again, the argument isn't about whether or not APM equates with skill. It's a component of skill, and one worth improving if you want to improve your game. It doesn't count for everything, but having a high APM does go a long way in helping you play at the highest level.

And please don't label Tsunami as your example of a player with low APM who beat people with higher APM. There have been threads and threads about this guy and why he isn't as good as many of his fans think he is. I don't want to get into it, and this thread doesn't need to get into it. And, AGAIN, it's not the point of this discussion of APM anyways.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 20 2003 01:31 GMT
#352
You need to be ABLE to go into high speed ;( Not having high APM might just mean that you don't click constantly, but there's a REASON to do that- keeping your hands moving, increasing reaction speed..
Now a player with 100 apm can be as fast just not as consistant as a 300 apm player but I'd say the 300 apm player is most likely going to have a better reaction time -..-

Btw, I think trying to improve your apm is a good idea
When you realize you wont go that much faster by just trying to go fast and then play normally you'll play much faster!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 20 2003 02:36 GMT
#353
Tsunami was fucking slow and fucking overrated.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
September 20 2003 04:26 GMT
#354
On September 20 2003 10:31 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Btw, I think trying to improve your apm is a good idea
When you realize you wont go that much faster by just trying to go fast and then play normally you'll play much faster!


That's a strange way of practicing -_-
Before bwcharts people could also get better you know?

APM is way over rated, you should try to improve your skills (practicing macro and micro) and see if the apm goes up not improve your apm and hope your skills go up...
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 20 2003 04:38 GMT
#355
On September 20 2003 13:26 Beamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2003 10:31 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Btw, I think trying to improve your apm is a good idea
When you realize you wont go that much faster by just trying to go fast and then play normally you'll play much faster!


That's a strange way of practicing -_-
Before bwcharts people could also get better you know?

APM is way over rated, you should try to improve your skills (practicing macro and micro) and see if the apm goes up not improve your apm and hope your skills go up...

... Why does practising apm have to mean that I do NOT practice micro macro? Where's the logic behind that? I try to do everything FASTER
and BETTER.
Which increase my apm as well as my EFFICENCY :/
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 20 2003 04:39 GMT
#356
If I get under 150 apm I'm not happy since then I know I wasn't concentrating -_- It's a good way to help you practice etc :o And it's good to set up goals etc.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-20 05:33:08
September 20 2003 05:32 GMT
#357
On September 20 2003 10:31 FrozenArbiter wrote:
... Why does practising apm have to mean that I do NOT practice micro macro? Where's the logic behind that? I try to do everything FASTER
and BETTER.
Which increase my apm as well as my EFFICENCY :/


Then you're practicing micro and macro not apm. i agree your apm will probably go up by itself but the goal of practicing is having better macro and micro not having higher apm.
Apm is just stats on the game, it is not a goal by itself
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 20 2003 05:53 GMT
#358
No I'm trying to raise my apm (speed) so that I can do all the micro macro faster ;(
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 20 2003 05:56 GMT
#359
What I mean is, I play a couple of games with friends where I try to go REALLLLY fast, and just think about that. Then I play normally and I can do all the things faster
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
September 20 2003 06:13 GMT
#360
APM is not speed

If U produce in your gates really fast then do nothing u have good speed but low apm.

if u use ot keys 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 and don't do anything with them U have good apm but your speed efficiency suxx.

APM == action/min wich means it counts all the useless actions and all the bad actions. U can not compare it to skills or to speed.

PS: what I call bad actions is moving your units to the wrong place buy miscliking for exemple. that's an action but that's doesn't go with what players call speed.
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