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alpskomleko
Slovenia950 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g17/alpskomleko/stack_corsairs2.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g17/alpskomleko/stack_corsairs.jpg) Quite similar to the zerg way of stacked mutalisks. You build a pylon behind your minerals or in any other suitable location in such a way that it effectively blocks your probe from moving anywhere. You then group that probe together with your corsairs. You don't really have to do anything to get them to stick together, once you move them they will clump. Taken (without permission  )from game 2 of Nony vs fengzi on Blue Storm. | ||
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Chef
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11575 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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allowicious
United States972 Posts
On February 19 2008 07:17 CaucasianAsian wrote: does this have potential to do anything different than not having them stacked? it would make it harder for z to clone their scourge against the sairs that would be my guess | ||
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On February 19 2008 07:16 freelander wrote: omg a giant corsair! NO its a cow! | ||
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
On February 19 2008 07:17 CaucasianAsian wrote: does this have potential to do anything different than not having them stacked? Actually their sight radius is somewhat smaller which is bad for the happy hunting hour. On the other hand stacking them must be very, very strong vs scourges. | ||
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
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sanftm00d
Austria73 Posts
On February 19 2008 07:17 CaucasianAsian wrote: does this have potential to do anything different than not having them stacked? it makes it more difficult for the zerg to clone scourges at least it would make it more difficult for me, dont know if it matters on pro lvl anyone knows? | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5499 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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ZerG~LegenD
Sweden1179 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
 i suggested that in the Theorycraft me blog haha | ||
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
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paper
13196 Posts
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
For example, once you have your air units and probe in a group, how do I stack the units from there? Do I hit the hotkey that they're on? | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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paper
13196 Posts
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
On February 19 2008 08:18 Luddite wrote: Or if one of your goons gets stuck you could use that... Too bad if you screw up Gateway placement the first thought you have isn't "sweet I can stack Corsairs" but rather "Oh @#$@#$" | ||
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CapO
United States1615 Posts
On February 19 2008 08:21 Southlight wrote: Too bad if you screw up Gateway placement the first thought you have isn't "sweet I can stack Corsairs" but rather "Oh @#$@#$" ... lol funny posts in this thread, including PR's | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
On February 19 2008 08:12 PuertoRican wrote: You should explain how to do it, instead of just showing 2 pictures w/o directions. For example, once you have your air units and probe in a group, how do I stack the units from there? Do I hit the hotkey that they're on? hahahahha | ||
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lololol
5198 Posts
On February 19 2008 08:12 PuertoRican wrote: You should explain how to do it, instead of just showing 2 pictures w/o directions. For example, once you have your air units and probe in a group, how do I stack the units from there? Do I hit the hotkey that they're on? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33677 P.S. Noob | ||
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
In theory, it should also be very strong vs any kind of air unit because the sairs should all pick the same target assuming you don't manually target them or move them very close before attacking... which is usually just the case when you defend against scourges. | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
While the group would certainly have a lower sight radius... Not only does the stacking increase the difficultly of cloning scourge, but it also decreases the area in which hydralisks can fire at them. A group of hydralisks, while generally being able to pick at a closer corsair.. are forced to move closer to attack the cluster. Thus, corsairs are much easier to keep alive if stacked (excepting plague and devourers). | ||
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FusionCutter
Canada974 Posts
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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alpskomleko
Slovenia950 Posts
On February 19 2008 08:12 PuertoRican wrote: You should explain how to do it, instead of just showing 2 pictures w/o directions. For example, once you have your air units and probe in a group, how do I stack the units from there? Do I hit the hotkey that they're on? T_T" You build a pylon behind your minerals or in any other suitable location in such a way that it effectively blocks your probe from moving anywhere. You then group that probe together with your corsairs. You don't really have to do anything to get them to stick together, once you move them they will clump. But of course everyone knows this. Right? And yes, having any air units stacked in a clump makes handling them much easier and grants additional confidence in engaging the enemy. | ||
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
On February 19 2008 08:31 lololol wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33677 P.S. Noob On February 19 2008 08:29 Hot_Bid wrote: hahahahha On February 19 2008 08:14 CTStalker wrote: lol pr... On February 19 2008 08:17 paper wrote: pr lol -_-;; i think anyone who's played sc for five minutes knows that getting units to stack is pretty intuitive... What's so funny? This thread is showing how to stack corsairs, right? So he's trying to show someone how to do something, and when you do that, either give a description or photoshop some pictures that show the directions. If my request for him to give directions to do a certain strat/move in Starcraft is dumb to you, then this original thread is even more retarded for not explaining the process of it all. It'd be easier to either close the thread for lack of information, or keep your comments to yourself. And if this thread is only telling people that you can stack corsairs, then it should be an auto close anyway. | ||
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Folca
2235 Posts
its 7 corsairs | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On February 19 2008 09:48 PuertoRican wrote: What's so funny? This thread is showing how to stack corsairs, right? So he's trying to show someone how to do something, and when you do that, either give a description or photoshop some pictures that show the directions. If my request for him to give directions to do a certain strat/move in Starcraft is dumb to you, then this original thread is even more retarded for not explaining the process of it all. It'd be easier to either close the thread for lack of information, or keep your comments to yourself. And if this thread is only telling people that you can stack corsairs, then it should be an auto close anyway. PuertoRican for fucking president lolollolol | ||
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DJEtterStyle
United States2766 Posts
On February 19 2008 09:48 PuertoRican wrote: What's so funny? This thread is showing how to stack corsairs, right? So he's trying to show someone how to do something, and when you do that, either give a description or photoshop some pictures that show the directions. If my request for him to give directions to do a certain strat/move in Starcraft is dumb to you, then this original thread is even more retarded for not explaining the process of it all. It'd be easier to either close the thread for lack of information, or keep your comments to yourself. And if this thread is only telling people that you can stack corsairs, then it should be an auto close anyway. hahahahahahahahahaha | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
On February 19 2008 09:48 PuertoRican wrote: What's so funny? This thread is showing how to stack corsairs, right? So he's trying to show someone how to do something, and when you do that, either give a description or photoshop some pictures that show the directions. If my request for him to give directions to do a certain strat/move in Starcraft is dumb to you, then this original thread is even more retarded for not explaining the process of it all. It'd be easier to either close the thread for lack of information, or keep your comments to yourself. And if this thread is only telling people that you can stack corsairs, then it should be an auto close anyway. lolololol (p.s. the pictures are directions enough in themselves) | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
On topic, of course it can be used for any other air unit as well. I think it can be extremely useful for the 2port opening in TvZ because if you want to hit 'n' run you need to find an escape route - and an attack route - every single time which works much better with stacking. This could mean that terran might be able to use the same technique against zerg that they're using against terran right now. Of course there are already TvZ games with 1 base wraith harassment but I haven't seen them stacked that way yet, at least not by progamers. It might increase the pressure on zerg and therefore turn modern TvZ around if it is viable enough. PvZ should still look the same except for a bit better corsairs. Actually terran and protoss got a little advantage over zerg when it comes to stacking b/c they only need to sacrifice 1 worker which is ok. They don't need to select, re-select and send overlords back and forth every minute. They can also use that single worker for all groups of wraiths/corsairs. | ||
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
When I explain something about sc, I give break down of things, not just show pictures, and this is what I was refering to. Obviously most people here know how to do it and understand it from the pic, but when explaining a strat in sc at this website, it's always needed to write the directions, not show 2 pictures. And if you're aware of that, then you'll understand why the original post isn't as helpful as it could be. Think outside the box for a second, before posting laughable comments to what I said. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
p.s. you'll need it for the reactionary Z burrowed hydras/lurks anyways | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
lol | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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mjh
United States133 Posts
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
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dronebabo
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FragKrag
United States11550 Posts
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micronesia
United States24651 Posts
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pyrogenetix
China5094 Posts
tho doesnt scourge have splash? i mean all he'd have to do now is just send all the scourge onto your sairs yea? kidna like storming stacked mutas =P | ||
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NonY
8748 Posts
On February 19 2008 11:19 pyrogenetix wrote: tho doesnt scourge have splash? the thread is growing in power | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
I dread finding out what its power level is. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On February 19 2008 10:55 PuertoRican wrote: It may be easy for you guys to laugh at my response, but it's also that easy for those thousands of newbs who post at all the other community sites to not know what you're talking about. When I explain something about sc, I give break down of things, not just show pictures, and this is what I was refering to. Obviously most people here know how to do it and understand it from the pic, but when explaining a strat in sc at this website, it's always needed to write the directions, not show 2 pictures. And if you're aware of that, then you'll understand why the original post isn't as helpful as it could be. Think outside the box for a second, before posting laughable comments to what I said. After preforming the steps in the pictures (hotkey your probe in the same group as your sairs by selecting the sairs then pressing shift + left click on the probe). Click anywhere that isn't near-by the probe. Or A-click (attack move) anywhere that isn't near-by the probe. Both will cause the sairs to stack at that point. Oh and just in case...A-click means pressing the A key, then left clicking on the screen. To simply move, use right click. PS. LOL (just because it's so easy) Look at me, thinking outside the box. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On February 19 2008 11:19 pyrogenetix wrote: hahaha i can't for the life of me figure out if this is a big fuckin joke or if puerto is being serious tho doesnt scourge have splash? i mean all he'd have to do now is just send all the scourge onto your sairs yea? kidna like storming stacked mutas =P zomg! | ||
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Payt
Canada582 Posts
also, I SUPPORT PR. but at the same time, if someone posted explaining in detail the instructions for how to stack your air units, they'd be flamed for giving advice that's too simple and basic and that everyone should know by now. I can somewhat see that point of view, seeing as the average level on TL is higher than the avg bnet level, but I still think it's a little stupid. Why should we have a minimum skill requirement for asking questions on our strat forum? | ||
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noobienoob
United States1173 Posts
and does this work when i use a goon that got stuck because i placed my gateway wrong? because i always do that and it acts as a free cannon for 2 supply so i think it's better than a probe edit@below: this game is so hard on me | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On February 19 2008 12:16 noobienoob wrote: someone should make a thread on how to stack wraiths and does this work when i use a goon that got stuck because i placed my gateway wrong? because i always do that and it acts as a free cannon for 2 supply so i think it's better than a probe Please tell me you're not serious. | ||
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MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On February 19 2008 10:57 intrigue wrote: puertorican for Mexico A hahahahaha | ||
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
I tryed to join under a smurf, but they booted me cuz I couldn't speak much Spanish ;( | ||
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
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dronebabo
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
=D | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On February 19 2008 10:57 intrigue wrote: puertorican for Mexico A For Romania A first plz | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
wow | ||
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Payt
Canada582 Posts
i accept defeat. but you guys are still assholezzzzz | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5094 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On February 19 2008 09:07 imBLIND wrote: everoyne knows this.. I didn't, thus your claim is false. Anyways to topic I think it is really useful because once 1 of your sair is attacking overlord all sairs will attack, thus popping them faster. If you are trying to kill mutalisks, you can focus fire much better because corsairs don't have to move closer to the desired target should it be too far. Once one attack, they all attack. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On February 19 2008 14:29 anch wrote: this is devourer + ensnare+ plaguu happy hour. It is but who cares? The state where stack sair is powerful isn't the stage of dev/ens/plag. Just like you go stack mutalisks vs mnm, you don't do it when there's SV, obviously. | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
On February 19 2008 12:16 noobienoob wrote: someone should make a thread on how to stack wraiths and does this work when i use a goon that got stuck because i placed my gateway wrong? because i always do that and it acts as a free cannon for 2 supply so i think it's better than a probe edit@below: this game is so hard on me Oh god.. This thread is now too painful to continue reading. | ||
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Hittegods
Stockholm4640 Posts
On February 19 2008 11:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I dread finding out what its power level is. No one took your bait? Wtf =( | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
It wouldn't be too funny because it'd be too obvious | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Seku
United States313 Posts
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Blayse
United States9 Posts
how do i do it??? | ||
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noobienoob
United States1173 Posts
On February 20 2008 05:32 Blayse wrote: You can't read very well if you read the entire thread.i read the entire thead an no one explained how to stack corsairs how do i do it??? I think the only reason this thread hasn't been closed yet is because of the beautiful screenshot of the cow in the first picture. ...and PR. OVER 9000!!!! | ||
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lololol
5198 Posts
On February 20 2008 05:32 Blayse wrote: i read the entire thead an no one explained how to stack corsairs how do i do it??? I gave a link already, but oh, well... You can do it with any type of air units and you just have to select them with another unit that is at least around half a screen size away and they will automatically stack, when given an order. In the pictures you can see that he blocked a probe to achieve that. You don't need to block a unit, but then it will come closer to the other selected units and they will no longer stack. It's most often used with mutas and a slow overlord. You should read the link anyway because it can help with vulture mine placement and other things. | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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lololol
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jngngshk321
Korea (South)457 Posts
it seems like a waste of a probe tbh, since it's not like scourge are counters for large amounts of corsairs | ||
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jr.
Slovenia41 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
On February 20 2008 06:02 jngngshk321 wrote: don't corsairs normally shoot down scourges before they hit? it seems like a waste of a probe tbh, since it's not like scourge are counters for large amounts of corsairs The advantage far outweighs the cost of having a probe not mining. Anyway, only a handful of people are playing at a level where having 1 probe not mining in early to mid game is actually causing some sort of disadvantage. You shouldn't be able to notice the difference at all with 1 probe mining or 1 probe not, cosnidering that slipups in macro have a much bigger effect on your unit production than a single probe. Edit: Beaten to it >< | ||
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wo0py
Netherlands922 Posts
On February 19 2008 11:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I dread finding out what its power level is. | ||
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Piste
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
On February 20 2008 06:02 jngngshk321 wrote: don't corsairs normally shoot down scourges before they hit? it seems like a waste of a probe tbh, since it's not like scourge are counters for large amounts of corsairs totally agree | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On February 19 2008 07:30 skyglow1 wrote: QFTDuh you can stack any air unit you want using teh same technique. It's not like this is new or anything -_- I've used this with wraiths when I'm playing for fun in say TvZ to do some harassment. Its funnest with 2-3 groups of speed-scouts and another 1-2 groups of hallucinated speed-scouts | ||
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