EPTOn February 17 2026 10:59 SCRVN wrote:
I think there is no any complete matchup with P and Z because of their imperfective race.
I think there is no any complete matchup with P and Z because of their imperfective race.
What do you mean?
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SiarX
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Biff The Understudy
France7979 Posts
I wouldn’t say that nukes are useless in tvz, and i wouldn’t bet my money that they will never be part of the meta. Totally agree with the OP, TvZ is the most perfect matchup. | ||
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SiarX
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On February 17 2026 23:59 SCRVN wrote: Thst`s not enough data to judge... especially since Soulkey changes ASL statistics signifcantly singlehandedly, otherwise zerg would have fared much worse. But here statistics is more close https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/642592-data-analysis-on-70-million-replays https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/617209-data-analysis-on-8-million-games | ||
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LUCKY_NOOB
Bulgaria1517 Posts
https://tl.net/tlpd/korean/games/12038_Kal_vs_ZerO/vod https://tl.net/tlpd/korean/games/13625_Hwasin_vs_ZerO | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7979 Posts
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SiarX
129 Posts
On February 18 2026 02:53 LUCKY_NOOB wrote: ZerO (now Queen) did Infested Terrans on Holy World SE vs Protosses, but u can argue it's because of the map (has a neutral CC in the middle). https://tl.net/tlpd/korean/games/12038_Kal_vs_ZerO/vod https://tl.net/tlpd/korean/games/13625_Hwasin_vs_ZerO That was 17 years ago though... | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28742 Posts
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1114 Posts
PvZ is not nearly as imbalanced as some folks on here claim. And TvZ is not nearly as perfect as some claim. Winrates fluctuate strongly for both matchupa depending on game time power spikes. | ||
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Kraekkling
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On February 18 2026 22:30 Liquid`Drone wrote: tvz isn't just the best matchup in brood war, it's the best matchup in any computer game. it's marvelous how asymmetrical the matchup is, playing TvZ and playing ZvT might as well be different games | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10308 Posts
On February 19 2026 03:19 Kraekkling wrote: it's marvelous how asymmetrical the matchup is, playing TvZ and playing ZvT might as well be different games As someone who picked up Zerg this last season of CPL, it was very eye opening how much Zerg has to struggle in the matchup. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7979 Posts
On February 19 2026 04:44 FlaShFTW wrote: As someone who picked up Zerg this last season of CPL, it was very eye opening how much Zerg has to struggle in the matchup. Terran units feel so weak and fragile when you play them and so utterly terrifying when you face them it’s kind of comical. | ||
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Kraekkling
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TvZ: nonstop macro because marines are so quick to make, but as a payoff you get the deadliest, most aggressive T1 unit in the game. Your opponent gets a bunch of bullshit which makes your units useless. ZvT: closest to WC3 or something, there’s no economy, no macro, but you get a bunch of hero units you have to babysit all game i.e., the muta stack and later defilers. Your opponent can sit back and never expand and as long as they are mining, they'll be able to produce units which can kill you at all times. Then it’s like 15 minutes of Zerg trying to assemble their super weapon while Terran throws shit at them hoping something sticks. | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2314 Posts
On February 17 2026 03:26 .father wrote: It's the most completely shit matchup in the game. Zerg has the best all ins in the game for the matchup and unbeatable lategame. Terran has about a 4 minute window to win the game before they're permanently locked out of any options. welcome to pvz | ||
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