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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10320 Posts
1 hour ago
#41
On February 24 2026 20:05 iopq wrote:
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On February 16 2026 06:41 SiarX wrote:
Well ghosts at least very rarely see use in TvP vs carriers, but in TvZ they are totally useless, so... not exactly complete.

Also, did you ever see devourers in TvZ? In ZvZ they are at least used in very rare hive level plays.


First of all, nuke rushes are viable against crazy Zerg and we've seen them in tournaments.

You build one devourer when you guardian rush to prevent cloaked wraiths from just killing your cliff overlord and hunting your guardians. The devourer shows them and slows their attack

They were also used many times on Roaring Currents! The map did not appear in ASL enough, but in pro league people tried everything

We saw nuke rush in one game in ASL, which, while exciting, still lost.
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Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
623 Posts
1 hour ago
#42
I don't care about the MU between players who are outside, say, top 25-30 in the world cuz BW is damn near a different game at that point. And even that is difficult to test because top 5 vs top 25 is still a huge huge huge advantage for top 5.

eloboard ZvT stats for the last 2 years. this is as close as we can get to the top 30
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Kraekkling
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Last Edited: 2026-02-26 20:21:34
1 hour ago
#43
At top top level the MU has been solved by Soulkey and Soma. It's been pretty brutal the past few years. Zerg camps, goes Mutas 99% of the time, completely dominates the tempo, Terran has a couple opportunities for timing attacks, if Zerg gets Defiler it's gg.


now that Flash returned and we got a new set of maps, Terrans are shitting on Zerg all over the place lol

TvZ win rates of 60% on multiple maps

this shouldn't be possible if what you said were true
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