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How do you Beat Guardian Rush as Terran!? - Page 4

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CHN_Danger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States66 Posts
August 07 2003 11:10 GMT
#61
After you finish reading that strat guide. Go play on wgt. You will always get a game. And for a person at your level, it is really worth it. Dont get mad if u lose- a loss is just another lesson learned
LuckyCharm
Profile Joined January 2003
United Kingdom228 Posts
August 07 2003 11:44 GMT
#62
On August 07 2003 07:21 NeX[CHaP]ReaPeR wrote:
How do you Beat Guardian Rush as Terran!?


By killing the guardians. Or the entire base before the guardians have a chance to be made. You're welcome
My hearts a tart
CHN_Danger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States66 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 12:04:14
August 07 2003 12:02 GMT
#63
On August 07 2003 07:21 NeX[CHaP]ReaPeR wrote:
How do you Beat Guardian Rush as Terran!?
By killing the guardians. Or the entire base before the guardians have a chance to be made. You're welcome [/QUOTE]That has got to be the smartest thing anyone has said about this topic.
doCrepuS
Profile Joined August 2003
Cook Islands28 Posts
August 07 2003 12:03 GMT
#64
On August 07 2003 07:21 NeX[CHaP]ReaPeR wrote:
I am absolutely serious, how in fuck's name as Terran do you beat this. Basically:

Zerg goes Muta harras, you cannot stop this in anyway unless you go 1 Barracks M&M drop, which of course almost never happens.

Zerg keeps Muta harrasing you, so you cannot leave your base. Meanwhile Zerg expands the map and techs to Guardian. You cannot stop the tech because you are being Muta harrassed.

You finally have enough defense to move out and attack. By this time your opponent has 24 Gaurdians, GG.

What do you do to stop this?


oh my god
Which is worse, WCG maps or the Caro-Kann defense? A great conundrum
CHN_Danger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States66 Posts
August 07 2003 12:05 GMT
#65
What the fuck just happened to this page? It looks all retarded now, theres a big gap on the left
Jar_Ly
Profile Joined March 2003
Cuba133 Posts
August 07 2003 12:46 GMT
#66
Those 4 Valkyries will make good support for the infantry anyway. If the zerg spend the entire game doing mutas he's not going to have gas for a great amount of ultras late game. The ultras doesn't have upgrades (Of Course), and are just a few so there's nothing to worry. The fact that both mutas/ultras take too long to build and are both too expensive make them a bad unit combo that the zerg player cannot keep for long.

[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
August 07 2003 12:49 GMT
#67
ya what happened to page. MEAT!
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Imperium
Profile Joined December 2002
United States614 Posts
August 07 2003 13:35 GMT
#68
I probly wouldn't get more than 2 valks. try a bunker by your minerals and some scattered turrets.. and marine range. very nice vs drops/muta harass.
such an oob!! go back to diablo
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 13:43:59
August 07 2003 13:42 GMT
#69
hmmn I wonder, I think there's a bug :D lol. This topic is retarted. Do what infinity said and let's close it before hell breaks lose.

monkey
River me timbers.
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
August 07 2003 13:56 GMT
#70
24 guardians? 24??

you should have 2839184 rines at that time ..
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
August 07 2003 15:07 GMT
#71
The only replay I have ever seen with a Zerg doing this strategy was YellOw vs Ranger at WCG 2002. What I described above is exactly what happened in that game. And both players are incredibly gosu.
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
August 07 2003 15:17 GMT
#72
do you honestly think ranger is on yellow's level?
1-10-5
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 07 2003 15:24 GMT
#73
On August 08 2003 00:07 NeX[CHaP]ReaPeR wrote:
The only replay I have ever seen with a Zerg doing this strategy was YellOw vs Ranger at WCG 2002. What I described above is exactly what happened in that game. And both players are incredibly gosu.


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So god damn stubborn- E V E R Y S I N G L E TIME YOU ASK FOR ADVICE YOU GET ADVICE AND THEN SAY: BUT IN THIS AND THAT REPLAY THAT HAPPENED AND THE SAME HAPPENS TO ME... I mean geeeeez...... You probably aren't even CLOSE to that level- just as ranger is not even close to yellow's level. K. Do what everyone suggested, if it doesn't work it is YOUR fault, or your opponents for being better!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
August 07 2003 16:14 GMT
#74
On August 07 2003 21:46 Jar_Ly wrote:
Those 4 Valkyries will make good support for the infantry anyway. If the zerg spend the entire game doing mutas he's not going to have gas for a great amount of ultras late game. The ultras doesn't have upgrades (Of Course), and are just a few so there's nothing to worry. The fact that both mutas/ultras take too long to build and are both too expensive make them a bad unit combo that the zerg player cannot keep for long.



no offense, but do you really think you can argue with me about starcraft theory....?
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
August 07 2003 16:28 GMT
#75
yeah, dont mess with infinity. he's my boy
1-10-5
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
August 07 2003 16:46 GMT
#76
On August 08 2003 01:14 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 21:46 Jar_Ly wrote:
Those 4 Valkyries will make good support for the infantry anyway. If the zerg spend the entire game doing mutas he's not going to have gas for a great amount of ultras late game. The ultras doesn't have upgrades (Of Course), and are just a few so there's nothing to worry. The fact that both mutas/ultras take too long to build and are both too expensive make them a bad unit combo that the zerg player cannot keep for long.



no offense, but do you really think you can argue with me about starcraft theory....?


lol
Im back, in pog form!
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 18:27:34
August 07 2003 18:26 GMT
#77
i just watched a nice fast guard vs T replay

http://www.wgtour.com/match.php?action=dl&datab=broodwar&id=160142&url=upload/ladder/broodwar/2235vs_whear.rep

whear vs timothy

entertaining game, fast guard countered by cloak wraiths. I liked timothy's retreating(?) sunken build to delay whear's tank. Oh, and whear throws a bunch of turrets pretty early to stop muta harass.
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 18:47:48
August 07 2003 18:46 GMT
#78
On August 08 2003 03:26 NoName wrote:
i just watched a nice fast guard vs T replay

http://www.wgtour.com/match.php?action=dl&datab=broodwar&id=160142&url=upload/ladder/broodwar/2235vs_whear.rep

whear vs timothy

entertaining game, fast guard countered by cloak wraiths. I liked timothy's retreating(?) sunken build to delay whear's tank. Oh, and whear throws a bunch of turrets pretty early to stop muta harass.


You kick ass.

Since Infinity is fucking good at SC there is no point in argueing with him unless you are better.

Also, I mentioned the replay because people kept telling me to "LOOK AT REPLAYS AND STOP ASKING GAY QUESTIONS". I figured I would mention the only rep I knew of.
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
Zorglub
Profile Joined October 2002
Denmark313 Posts
August 07 2003 19:54 GMT
#79
This is how not to do it : http://sc.replays.net/show.php?id=995&down=1
though he puts up a good fight.....
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 07 2003 19:57 GMT
#80
On August 08 2003 01:14 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 21:46 Jar_Ly wrote:
Those 4 Valkyries will make good support for the infantry anyway. If the zerg spend the entire game doing mutas he's not going to have gas for a great amount of ultras late game. The ultras doesn't have upgrades (Of Course), and are just a few so there's nothing to worry. The fact that both mutas/ultras take too long to build and are both too expensive make them a bad unit combo that the zerg player cannot keep for long.



no offense, but do you really think you can argue with me about starcraft theory....?


HAHA THATS MY BOY
why so 진지해?
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