• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:02
CET 08:02
KST 16:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview1TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation10Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion Terran 1:35 12 Gas Optimization
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1595 users

blacksheepwall.tv

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Normal
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
179 Posts
November 25 2023 19:22 GMT
#1
Hey all,

Hope life is treating you well

I wanted to announce that https://www.blacksheepwall.tv/ is live, go check it out and enjoy some replays!



Please check out the thanks section because this is definitely not just me. Much appreciated.

TBH though, I really think we need an SC3

AP
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
November 25 2023 19:47 GMT
#2
Looking good, congrats!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1772 Posts
November 25 2023 21:35 GMT
#3
this is pretty cool. It's the same thing that you showcased a year or two (or more?) ago where the maps were shown in this angle, right? impressive
LML
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
November 25 2023 21:57 GMT
#4
looks cool and dayum vr reps, i can finally be a real space commander
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
179 Posts
November 26 2023 06:04 GMT
#5
On November 26 2023 04:47 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Looking good, congrats!


Thank you

On November 26 2023 06:35 LML wrote:
this is pretty cool. It's the same thing that you showcased a year or two (or more?) ago where the maps were shown in this angle, right? impressive


Yes it is, with both fewer and additional bugs!

On November 26 2023 06:57 TT1 wrote:
looks cool and dayum vr reps, i can finally be a real space commander


Yeah I think there is an RTS game concept somewhere there
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
November 29 2023 07:40 GMT
#6
Looks awesome, really impressive work, can't wait to try it!
Congratz
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
179 Posts
November 30 2023 00:05 GMT
#7
This is a fuller demo of the auto observer.



On November 29 2023 16:40 Glioburd wrote:
Looks awesome, really impressive work, can't wait to try it!
Congratz


Merci
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
November 30 2023 16:09 GMT
#8
On November 30 2023 09:05 dark.matter wrote:
This is a fuller demo of the auto observer.

https://youtu.be/jlxVQlkvmQI

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2023 16:40 Glioburd wrote:
Looks awesome, really impressive work, can't wait to try it!
Congratz


Merci


This auto observer is awesome! The only thing I would like adjusted is when there is a battle going on it jumps to show a pylon being made. I don't think there is usually continuous battles in broodwar so if the observer would just watch the fight that would be great.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
179 Posts
November 30 2023 17:16 GMT
#9
On December 01 2023 01:09 Mutaller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2023 09:05 dark.matter wrote:
This is a fuller demo of the auto observer.

https://youtu.be/jlxVQlkvmQI

On November 29 2023 16:40 Glioburd wrote:
Looks awesome, really impressive work, can't wait to try it!
Congratz


Merci


This auto observer is awesome! The only thing I would like adjusted is when there is a battle going on it jumps to show a pylon being made. I don't think there is usually continuous battles in broodwar so if the observer would just watch the fight that would be great.


I think I can do that.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1168 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-20 10:58:05
December 20 2023 10:55 GMT
#10
Dude, I just wanted to stop by and say - this is AMAZING!
Not sure how viable it will be but looks fun and is something totally out of the box.

I'll give it a test drive tonight and stream some replays via the blacksheepwall, from the group stage of the Bulgarian SC league that we organize annually around xmas every year.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2581 Posts
December 20 2023 11:18 GMT
#11
This is very cool, what a great idea!
The frumious Bandersnatch
Lovethelord
Profile Blog Joined January 2023
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-22 04:30:18
December 22 2023 04:25 GMT
#12
this is the greatest thing i've seen since Shield Battery. Thank you. You are a genius.

Quick question, how can I make the auto observer to stop changing the speed of the game? I want to watch on one speed.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 23 2023 11:15 GMT
#13
Super cool, thanks for publishing it online!!! Please post in this thread if you have a stream where classic matches are replayed with blacksheepwall ( :D )
The heart's eternal vow
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-24 08:31:13
December 24 2023 08:29 GMT
#14
On December 22 2023 13:25 Lovethelord wrote:
this is the greatest thing i've seen since Shield Battery. Thank you. You are a genius.

Quick question, how can I make the auto observer to stop changing the speed of the game? I want to watch on one speed.


Thanks brother I really appreciate that. I just wanted my idea to exist.

You can open the control panel ( cog icon on home screen or press ESC in a game for menu ) and go to plugins -> Auto Observer, and change the max replay speed to 1.
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
179 Posts
December 24 2023 08:30 GMT
#15
On December 23 2023 20:15 PVJ wrote:
Super cool, thanks for publishing it online!!! Please post in this thread if you have a stream where classic matches are replayed with blacksheepwall ( :D )


I played with that idea but I won't be doing it myself. Some replays break so there has to be a little bit of management.
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
179 Posts
December 24 2023 09:14 GMT
#16
On December 20 2023 19:55 BlueStar wrote:
Dude, I just wanted to stop by and say - this is AMAZING!
Not sure how viable it will be but looks fun and is something totally out of the box.

I'll give it a test drive tonight and stream some replays via the blacksheepwall, from the group stage of the Bulgarian SC league that we organize annually around xmas every year.


Awesome! Did it work out? Sorry in advance if it didn't
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1168 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-24 11:24:38
December 24 2023 11:21 GMT
#17
On December 24 2023 18:14 dark.matter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2023 19:55 BlueStar wrote:
Dude, I just wanted to stop by and say - this is AMAZING!
Not sure how viable it will be but looks fun and is something totally out of the box.

I'll give it a test drive tonight and stream some replays via the blacksheepwall, from the group stage of the Bulgarian SC league that we organize annually around xmas every year.


Awesome! Did it work out? Sorry in advance if it didn't

Hi man, ye it did! ;D
Tbh, I'm with mixed feelings but it's viable for the job and is a breath of fresh air, which I like!

1st some general feedback from the viewers:
- the camera is too shaky. most of the ppl said this after watching for ~5 mins in. A few ppl were talking about sea sickness :D I think it's alright, but slight adjustments could do the job probably.

- the thing that breaks the deal for real SC coverage is that you can't get a proper feeling/understanding of the distances between units in many cases. That was vital for most of the hardcore viewers to say they didn't like it. Idk if there is any workaround for it, tho :|

- I was worried that blacksheepwall would switch the scenes too much and too often, but this worked out well I think. Whenever needed, I helped the auto obs by pointing a place on the mini-map. There was that one issue though - when something happens around the borders of the map, the screen would just move away from the place and it was hard to get a view of the right place.

I got the recordings of the two streams that we did, and you can check for yourself how it looks. The cast is in Bulgarian. The most frustrating moment for me as an obs/caster was at 01:48:22, here:


and here is the another recording:


Merry Christmas !

P.S. Also the thing with the auto change of the pace was too intrusive and I had to keep an eye on the info at the bot left corner, which was an annoying downside. The speeds didn't make any sense :D I was kinda flabbergasted looking at the numbers of the weird 'speeds'.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26032 Posts
December 24 2023 12:08 GMT
#18
Wow, that is cool.

How did you do all that 2.5 rotation stuff? :O
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-24 16:00:54
December 24 2023 16:00 GMT
#19
On December 24 2023 20:21 BlueStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2023 18:14 dark.matter wrote:
On December 20 2023 19:55 BlueStar wrote:
Dude, I just wanted to stop by and say - this is AMAZING!
Not sure how viable it will be but looks fun and is something totally out of the box.

I'll give it a test drive tonight and stream some replays via the blacksheepwall, from the group stage of the Bulgarian SC league that we organize annually around xmas every year.


Awesome! Did it work out? Sorry in advance if it didn't

Hi man, ye it did! ;D
Tbh, I'm with mixed feelings but it's viable for the job and is a breath of fresh air, which I like!

1st some general feedback from the viewers:
- the camera is too shaky. most of the ppl said this after watching for ~5 mins in. A few ppl were talking about sea sickness :D I think it's alright, but slight adjustments could do the job probably.

- the thing that breaks the deal for real SC coverage is that you can't get a proper feeling/understanding of the distances between units in many cases. That was vital for most of the hardcore viewers to say they didn't like it. Idk if there is any workaround for it, tho :|

- I was worried that blacksheepwall would switch the scenes too much and too often, but this worked out well I think. Whenever needed, I helped the auto obs by pointing a place on the mini-map. There was that one issue though - when something happens around the borders of the map, the screen would just move away from the place and it was hard to get a view of the right place.

I got the recordings of the two streams that we did, and you can check for yourself how it looks. The cast is in Bulgarian. The most frustrating moment for me as an obs/caster was at 01:48:22, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPI2KkOVRQc

and here is the another recording: https://youtu.be/bXF1l8SPNi8

Merry Christmas !

P.S. Also the thing with the auto change of the pace was too intrusive and I had to keep an eye on the info at the bot left corner, which was an annoying downside. The speeds didn't make any sense :D I was kinda flabbergasted looking at the numbers of the weird 'speeds'.


Alright cool. I think I can fix that stuff. I have a feeling people simply prefer the feel of the classic/official UI so I get what you mean. In my experience its great for youtube shorts, recaps / promos etc.

FYI. You can lock it to 1x speed. The speed displayed should is the game speed multiplier, so 1.5x means 1.5 times the speed. If you prefer not to use auto observer press 1, 2 and 3 are other modes, and 4 is auto observer.

Merry Christmas to you too! En Taro Adun

On December 24 2023 21:08 WombaT wrote:
Wow, that is cool.

How did you do all that 2.5 rotation stuff? :O


It's made using three.js/webgl https://github.com/alexpineda/titan-reactor
Lovethelord
Profile Blog Joined January 2023
47 Posts
December 25 2023 04:14 GMT
#20
been using this a lot to watch my games. so fun. did you fix the shaking? It's much more smooth now and the battles take priority.

Man, I hope this lasts forever.
Lovethelord
Profile Blog Joined January 2023
47 Posts
December 26 2023 06:49 GMT
#21
Dark, is it possible to have the auto observer to only follow a single player? So that it watches everything one player does, not the other player.
orangeshines
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom202 Posts
December 29 2023 00:25 GMT
#22
Hi, any idea why any rep I try to watch loads into a black screen? sound is coming through ok but no video just blank.
I tried different browsers..
earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-29 18:35:17
December 29 2023 18:33 GMT
#23
Hey i tried this out and when i select my replay folder it says: "Invalid directory"

edit: nvm I selected the wrong folder.
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1550 Posts
December 31 2023 18:31 GMT
#24
Wow, GJ!

Any chance it will ever work in live games as obs ?
https://www.patreon.com/Bombastic || https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Bombastic_StarLeague || https://linktr.ee/bombastic
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
179 Posts
January 06 2024 11:13 GMT
#25
On December 26 2023 15:49 Lovethelord wrote:
Dark, is it possible to have the auto observer to only follow a single player? So that it watches everything one player does, not the other player.

Yeah I could implement that.

On December 29 2023 09:25 orangeshines wrote:
Hi, any idea why any rep I try to watch loads into a black screen? sound is coming through ok but no video just blank.
I tried different browsers..


Try turning off your browsers dark mode, if that doesn't work hit me up in discord.

On January 01 2024 03:31 ZZZero.O wrote:
Wow, GJ!

Any chance it will ever work in live games as obs ?


Not likely, but maybe.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 06 2024 11:22 GMT
#26
wow looks amazing!
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
adebrettski
Profile Joined January 2024
1 Post
January 07 2024 00:59 GMT
#27
love this. unfortunately most of the replays i watch become "broken" where units get produced and do nothing, units do random things or nothing... any way to fix?
Gorgonoth
Profile Joined August 2017
United States468 Posts
January 09 2024 21:17 GMT
#28
Just stumbled upon this but this is fantastic! Thanks DM!
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 58m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 1523
Leta 450
EffOrt 187
Bale 52
ivOry 6
Icarus 5
Dota 2
XaKoH 749
monkeys_forever474
League of Legends
JimRising 581
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King77
Other Games
summit1g20255
C9.Mang0211
crisheroes115
NeuroSwarm65
kaitlyn47
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick655
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH77
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21692
League of Legends
• Lourlo1921
• Stunt531
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
2h 58m
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
4h 58m
GuMiho vs MaNa
herO vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
4h 58m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 2h
RSL Revival
1d 2h
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
1d 4h
Cure vs Reynor
IPSL
1d 9h
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
1d 12h
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
BSL: GosuLeague
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL: GosuLeague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
RSL Revival: Season 3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.